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So to elaborate a bit:
- Were all anchorites banished from their cells or were some allowed to remain? (I understand the recluses were funded by rich sponsors).
- Did any of them seek solitude by hiding in caves or cellars? (As in they could not adjust to life outside).
- Were there any attempts to rehabilitate the recluses into society?
- I understand that anchorites often dispensed wisdom/counselling to the faithful. What, if any, were the effects on the faithful who sought the anchorite's advice?
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Did the celebration of Patron saints of Britain continue after the reformation?
Did it depend on the religion of the current monarch?
Henry VIII never splits from the Roman Catholic Church, and no subsequent English government/ruler decides to embrace Protestantism. What happens from then on?
I've been watching some videos and reading (a bit) on the English Reformation where Henry VIII became the head of the Church of England, but almost everything I find tells the story just from the point of view of the English.
How did the Catholic Church and the Pope respond to Henry and the reformation? Did they threaten him with damnation? Excommunication? Crusade/military actions?
And if you have time, what was the general response from the rest of Catholic Europe as well? I know that the Protestant reformation was already coming into play, was this seen as some sort of catastrophic event or destabilizing event?
They are almost all Luther, Henry and Ann. With Cromwell and Puritans thrown in as an afterthought. Much too little about Switzerland and The Netherlands, even though most of our theology and hymns go back to Switzerland and Holland. And there is almost nothing about the Reformation in Poland, Bohemia, and Hungary.
There are several parallels between Margeary Tyrel and Catharine of Aragon. Catharine of Aragon was the first wife of Henry VIII of England. She was first married to Arthur, King Henry VIII’s older brother before he died. She claimed to still be a virgin after that marriage so that she could still marry Henry. Much like Margeary Tyrell after Renly. And when she couldn’t produce a male heir for Henry, and Henry wasn’t granted an Annulment by the pope this caused Henry to start the Anglican Church and the English reformation to divorce Catharine . Bringing Catharine into conflict with the Catholic Church, like Margeary and the High Sparrow.
On the other hand. Henry VIII appealed to the pope for an annulment on the grounds that his marriage to Catharine was illegitimate because Catharine was his brother’s widow. Catharine argued that the marriage was legitimate as the marriage to Arthur had never been consummated. Much like Sansa Stark and Tyrion.
I don’t know what to make of these historical connections. How do you all think this could play into either the High Sparrow plot with Margaery, or the Harding-Stark marriage plot in the Vale?
I read a really interesting paper by Katherine French, "The Material Culture of Childbirth in Late Medieval London and its Suburbs", that goes into a lot of detail about how women shared items like rosaries, bed hangings, etc. intended to make labor safer and easier by invoking the aid of saints as well as the inherent properties (as they understood them) of precious stones. However, French's timeframe and some of the cases she cites got me thinking about all the changes in religious culture already happening in the 14th-early 16th centuries and coming down the pipeline in the near future. Do we know at all about how changing attitudes about relics impacted how women prepared for childbirth in the later 16th century? What became of items like blessed girdles? How did staunchly Protestant-affiliated women and their families prepare for lying-in?
So Henry VIII created the Church of England so he can divorce his wives and have an heir. How come his daughter, Mary, was a staunch Catholic, then? Did the king not decide upon the education of his children?
Also, why did people depose Lady Jane Gray, a Protestant, to install a Catholic queen (Mary), and then continued to hate said queen for the rest of her reign because she was Catholic?
What distinguishes the English Reformation from the Swiss Reformation??
By the late 19th and early 20th century, it is apparent that the influence of God on religion had increasing diminished in places like London, England. I found it interesting thought hat, A. F. Winnington-Ingram, an Anglican clergyman, once wrote "It is not that the Church of God has lost the great towns; it never had them." (Source: The Oxford Illustrated History of Britain).
Of course, by the time of the late 20th century Sir Humphrey could quip that the Anglican Church was primarily a social organization, but I distinctly remember more bitter religious conflicts during the 17th, 18th centuries, with fears of catholic insurrection. If I recall correctly, one of the key concessions desired by the Independents during the civil war was the abolish of bishops because that was associated with Catholicism by some degree.
My understanding is that religion may be easier to take root in rural areas, in the same vein as 'there are no atheists in a foxhole', but I am left wondering now just how much religious influence there was to a metropolitan area like London, especially like London as noted in its relative size compared to the rest of England. Like, how many people attended church in London as opposed to a village elsewhere in southern England, and how willing were people to offer their time and resources when 'God' demanded it? Did the Church ever really take hold in major towns, even pre-reformation, or did it lose its hold somehow?
I'm part of a Lutheran discord. I have some friends who love to tease me about how the English reformers were calvinists. That's what they say. I was thinking of some books I could read to get a grip on the English reformation. Diarmand Maccolluch Has a huge 700 book on Cranmer. I can't read that. But there's a nearly long book about the whole English reformation by Peter Marshall in audio form. I can get that. Is it good? I'm chiefly interested in the theology of Cranmer and the other English reformers. Their theology of the sacraments and ordination are of peculiar interest.
Are there other good books on the English reformation I should read?
Can anyone point me in the direction to find out which translations the following translations are revised from? (For example, the NRSV came off of the RSV).
Coverdale Bible 1536
Matthew’s Bible 1537
Great Bible 1539
Taverner’s Bible 1539
Geneva Bible 1560
Bishop’s Bible 1568
Bishop’s Bible Revision 1572
I’m making a English Translation family tree, and the KJV 1611 used all of these plus Tyndale’s translations and the DRB. Thanks:)
Preferably something that focuses on the liturgy/vernacular, Cranmer, and Hooker.
Movies also count.
It seems like unlike Lutheranism in the German states, which was a popular uprising, the reformation in England was imposed from the top down. I would think that the English, raised Catholic and taught to respect monks, would have been outraged by the dissolution of monasteries, and see the whole thing as a tyrannical power grab by King Henry. However, while there were always a large number of Catholic loyalists, it seems like a huge portion of the population readily accepted these changes contrary to my expectations. Why?
