RETRACTION: "Stay-at-home policy is a case of exception fallacy: an internet-based ecological study"

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The article Stay-at-home policy is a case of exception fallacy: an internet-based ecological study has been retracted from Scientific Reports as of December 14, 2021. The research was widely shared and covered by the media, with the paper being accessed nearly 400,000 times and garnering one of the highest Altmetric scores ever. Serious concerns about the methodology of the study were raised by a pair of recent peer-reviewed critiques by Meyerowitz-Katz, et al. and GΓ³es. Given the limitations of the analysis described in both articles, the Editors have retracted the paper against the wishes of the authors.

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RETRACTION: "Stay-at-home policy is a case of exception fallacy: an internet-based ecological study" /r/science/comments/rg78a…
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Stay-at-home policy is a case of exception fallacy: an internet-based ecological study

Alguem jΓ‘ viu um bom comentΓ‘rio sobre esse paper ? EstΓ‘ sendo usado para minimizar os efeitos do lockdown.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-84092-1?error=cookies_not_supported&code=1adfd39d-b8a6-4cf4-a9df-412c3f9048df

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Possible ecological fallacy
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The male-assigned "dominant sex class" essentialism and the ecological fallacy.

The transgender erasing reactionary fringe has contrived a dogma which states that all male assigned people are essentially dominators because of ostensibly unavoidable and inescapable male dominance socialization.

That essentialist dogma is nothing more than an underhanded way to silence male assigned people. It's a trump card which can always be used to win any argument against any male assigned person, merely by portraying their superior reasoning as itself inherently dominating. That dogma also relieves the TERF of any obligation to engage in constructive debate in order to try and educate or convince or persuade an opponent.

The meme that male assigned people are socialized into a "dominant sex class" should be rejected on its face as an essentialist and an ecological fallacy.

>An ecological fallacy (or ecological inference fallacy) is a logical fallacy in the interpretation of statistical data where inferences about the nature of individuals are deduced from inference for the group to which those individuals belong.

Every person undergoes different socialization. We all have different reactions to what socialization we are put through. There is no way to measure socialization and thus no way for the TERFs to back up their pseudo-scientific claims. There is no way to determine between "male dominance" and a person simply being assertive or any other qualities which would be admired if they were held by a female assigned person. It is intellectually dishonest to label all male assigned people as "dominators" or another variation of the "dominant sex class" dogma which TERFs are cynically trying to maintain.

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SJWism simplified: the ecological fallacy in action, protected from scrutiny by the genetic fallacy

I think I've boiled down SJWism to two fallacies.

Social justice observes statistical discrepancies between groups of people as symptoms of injustice. This is defensible. SJWism is based on the further step of saying that these statistical discrepancies represent hidden forces that provide benefit or detriment to group members. It's the ecological fallacy, which is an invalid form of argument where you say that because a group has a statistical attribute (in this case, privilege), any given member of that group has the same attribute.

This would be easy to refute if not for the fact that SJWism combines this with the genetic fallacy to discredit arguments against it. The genetic fallacy is an invalid form of argument in which another argument is said to be invalid based on where it originated or how it was generated. SJWs commit the genetic fallacy when they claim that arguments against them from members of certain groups are invalid due to the privilege of those members (established via the ecological fallacy above) blinding them to certain truths.

This is why whenever they are criticized, they assume that the criticizer belongs to certain groups - so they can more easily ignore the criticism.

I think that pretty much sums up SJWism. Well, that and general knee-jerk intolerance. If there were another element I would include to criticize the more intellectual/narrative strains of it, it would be along the lines of a recent post somebody else made around here - that it's subconsciously bigoted precisely along the lines they criticize. Oppressed classes are assumed to lack agency - their actions being solely determined by their environment and circumstances, while oppressor classes are assumed to be fully autonomous, free of any environmental or social determination. SJWs more or less assume that oppressor classes are generally more able, far beyond anything their theory would predict.

EDIT: And there's the special snowflake stuff, but that's just a defense mechanism so they don't have to crucify themselves.

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Reddit: The whole porn red state connection falls under this kind of fallacy. Learn it and stop doing it! More advanced statistics (ecological inference) is needed to make that connection. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco…
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Why commiting the ecological fallacy is worse than not commiting the ecological fallacy

How can the ecological fallacy be a general cognitive bias when ecological (statistical/actuarial) judgements consistently outperform expert judgements - being those on the normatively 'correct' level of analysis?

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Stop the spread of the ecological fallacy thesciencebit.net/2011/06…
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The Ecological Fallacy blog.statwing.com/the-eco…
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The fallacy of misanthropic deep ecology

I know many people here are eagerly awaiting the mass die offs associated with collapse or even advocating passive and active forms of genocide but I think it’s worth internalizing that humans, like it are not, are a part of nature too and the full realization of β€œdeep” ecology must incorporate unconditional biophilia, that is a fundamental reverence and stewardship towards ALL living things, including other humans. Humans are indeed massively destructive but that, is in part because of our isolation and devaluation of nature. How we treat nature can reflect how we treat other humans: ideologies which exploit nature will exploit other humans and value them purely in terms of utility...and this goes the other way around. Disregard for humanity will result in a conditional view of nature. At the heart of my point isn’t anthropocentrism but rather interdependence and the fact that the separation between man and nature is artificial

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Crash Course Ecology on Types of Succession and the Fallacy of Climax Communities youtube.com/watch?v=jZKIH…
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The fallacy of β€˜Fair Growth’ and the alternative of Social Ecology – Transnational Institute of Social Ecology trise.org/2016/10/16/the-…
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How to deal with non technical manager’s approach that I disagree with?

First time working with non technical manager whose domain is industry knowledge and not data/statistics. Most days they know what they don’t know, but sometimes they want to drive some analysis in questionable ways to me.

For example, they asked that I remove 20%+ of the random sampled data so that we could build a perfectly smooth curve fit for only <80% of the data. By eyeballing the visuals. I explained to them that these data points, though not fitting well visually on their β€œideal” curve where the majority of the dats is, are not definitionally outliers. They were randomly sampled by our chief DS, there was no data entry errors and they belong to our target population. By removing them we make the data seem more predictable than it actually is, and invalidates conclusions. To no avail.

In similar veins, another time they asked for another β€œperfect” curve based only on averaged data, which removes all variability in our raw data. I found a post describing exactly what they wanted to do here - they want to do chart #2 instead of #1 - which explains consequences of doing so (β€œEcological fallacy”). I ran both analyses, showed them that the first approach generates a curve that is closer to what chief DS expects. But they say the curve through all individual data points must surely be skewed by the 20% of data points that don’t fit the curve as perfectly/closely.

I have <5 years of experience, top undergrad in Econometrics and am completing my Master’s in DS. They have 30+ in industry. I’m within my first year working with them so I’m at a loss of what to do.

For more context: I’m junior, so my model isn’t the primary moneymaker here. We produce one out of many inputs that go into business decisions. I guess in that sense, their approaches don’t automatically endanger the business, their or my job. But they will present this to upper people at some point. Their priority is to show a clean and easy to understand β€œmodel” as the audience is also non technical. Even so, if it’s the way it currently is, I feel that I shouldn’t have my name on it.

Thoughts on how to deal with this situation diplomatically? Thanks.

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Collapse of Global Industrial Civilization Will Be Completed by ~2040. Surprised that most AnPrims on here don't seem to be collapse aware!

As the title says, most AnPrims seem to be disillusioned by civilization AND seem to understand it's underlying unsustainability, but somehow don't realize that both civilization is collapsing now and that the process will be complete easily within our lifetimes.

The reality is that climate change, specifically global famines due to extreme weather and unpredictable growing seasons, as well as peak energy/materials, are converging to make these the last decades of global industrial civilization.

Links below:

Farming, the very basis of organized human society, was only possible in the very rare and very stable climate of the Holocene. Past climate states were too characterized by wild swings in temperature, weather, and precipitation too major for any kind of settlement or horticulture.

https://www.intechopen.com/books/climate-change-and-agriculture/climate-stability-and-the-origin-of-agriculture

https://www.scopus.com/record/display.uri?eid=2-s2.0-0000293549&origin=inward&txGid=ed0df3db2f9674b04bdd16badd99c99d

http://www.dandebat.dk/images/1579p.jpg

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/605359

http://www.dandebat.dk/images/1580p.jpg

Examples of Record-Breaking, Historic Crop Failures Already Happening.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/06/midwest-rain-climate-change-wrecking-corn-soy-crops/

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/extreme-heat-wave-hits-us-farmers-already-suffering-from-flooding.html

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/australia-to-import-wheat-for-first-time-in-12-years-as-drought-eats-into-grain-production

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/20/crop-failure-and-bankruptcy-threaten-farmers-as-drought-grips-europe

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-02/low-rice-crop-leads-to-sunrice-job-losses/11566748?pfmredir=sm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/climate-change-could-cut-fruit-production-almost-third-study/

https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-whammy-corn-belt.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/11/17/502349923/climate-change-is-making-greenland-warmer-but-farmers-there-are-struggling

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/12/britain-facing-potato-shortage-failure-dredge-rivers-led-flooding/

https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-08-01-drought-dam-drive-mekong-river-to-lowest-level-in-100-years

https://phys.org/news/2020-01-atlantic-circulation-collapse-british-crop.html

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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I don't have white privilege, I have immigrant privilege.

My great grandparents on all sides came to this country during the late 1800s when slavery and the Civil War were still in the living memory. They competed against freed slaves for work, and the freed slave usually won the job. You can say that in the end they survived bc they had white skin, that is just not true. No one in my family ever owned a slave or supported slavery. They never voted in the interest of segregation. Many of them lived side by side with African Americans in the inner city for many years. My father was the last to be born while still living in the "ghetto". My children are the first to be completely raised outside an urban environment. I worked hard to get where I am in life, and I think my neighbors of color do the same.

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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

Nothing, he was gladiator.

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Pun intended.
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No spoilers
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Covid problems
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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I had a vasectomy because I didn’t want any kids.

When I got home, they were still there.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

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Spi__
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