I've been out of the Windows world for a long time apart from some work related use. Windows 8 introduced UWP turdlets, and Windows 10 kept them, merely in a windowed form. In both cases, unless you are using a high dpi display, the lack of subpixel rendering in UWP, was a massive step back in display typography. What is the situation in Windows 11? Is UWP gone? Or has it been modified in a way to allow Cleartype when the device has a fixed display orientation?
it is more easy to read and looks better than cleartype, cleartype is a outdated font rasterizer
A little background here: ClearType is a subpixel-based font antialiasing technology in Microsoft Windows operating system first introduced in Windows XP (but enabled by default in Windows Vista). If some of you are old enough to use Windows XP (or any earlier version of Windows), you will notice that the UI fonts looks jagged compared to Windows Vista or newer. This is thanks to ClearType, which utilizes the fact that most LCD pixels are consisted of separate RGB subpixels. ClearType took this into advantage to effectively increase the horizontal resolution (in terms of font rendering) by 3x, hence makes font looks smoother. As you might have guessed, to perform this certain color channel in a pixel has to be turned on/off, which results in color fringe. And this really irks me. (examples later).
There is an alternative to this: grayscale rendering. Instead of using subpixels, it varies the brightness of a whole pixel surrounding a font. This eliminates color fringe and works almost as good as subpixel smoothing on low density displays. However, on high density displays, this method arguably looks better as it eliminates color fringe + makes text looks more "nutritious". Just compare the fonts of your classic Windows app (e.g. Windows' folder options in control panel) to macOS/ChromeOS/Android/iOS (basically any other OS).
Now you might argue as well that high resolution display (such as my 4K 15" in my laptop and my 5K (5120x2880) 27" in my desktop) will make every pixels indistinguishable from one another, and thus, eliminating the fringe. But it is not for me. I am quite sensitive to this and still can easily see the fringe on this 267 ppi screen! Also, there is an even bigger problem with ClearType: portrait orientation screen! I also got a Surface Go tablet, which obviously you can use in portrait mode. Because the ClearType is designed for RGB layout horizontally, it will wreck havoc the font rendering on the same LCD display in portrait mode, where now the actual physical pixel orientation becomes RGB or BGR but arranged vertically, depending on which side you are orienting the device to. This will cause pixels misalignments and further exaggerating the color fringe problem.
The thing is, Windows has been using grayscale font smoothing for metro/UWP apps since the first version of Windows 8 in 2012 (that's why for some sensitive person like me of you there, you might notice that UWP apps fonts are much nicer compared to, for example, MS Word). S
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gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.cleartype_level and gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.enhanced_contrastset to 100, gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.pixel_structureset to 1 and gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode set to 5 but after the update they don't work anymore.
For years I have been using Firefox, because both old and new Edge rendered terrible fonts, not following the custom system wide Clear Type settings.
I tried Edge from time to time, but the font rendering was still broken. Now I tried it again on current version 91.0.864.54 and I am surprised it finally renders readable fonts similar to other apps, following the custom Clear Type settings.
We just moved from Citrix to WVD through Azure. This is working pretty good, however end users are complaining about text being hard to read. We were able to fix this by turning on ClearType inside the users profiles, but some how it is getting turned of randomly. We are using app delivery instead of whole desktop. Anyone else having this issues?
I have it disabled as I think the text looks out of place to the rest of the UI.
As the title states, every time i remote into my work computer, ClearType is unchecked and i have to go through the setup process.
Ive seen this question before, but the individual was using Windows Remote Desktop, not Pulse Secure.
This only started this week, there are no new machines being used differently than the prior week.
What could be the reason for ClearType resetting itself?
I got the LG CX as a PC monitor, and the one slightly disappointing thing was that text in Windows had a really weird rainbowy refraction effect on it, that made it difficult to read. I ran ClearType calibration, and it's now crystal clear! If I lean in way too close to the monitor, I can make out that it's not quite as good as on an LCD. But at a reasonable viewing distance, it looks sharp and crisp—100 times better than before.
To do this, first set up your panel using the recommended settings thread. Then, open PC Settings, search for "ClearType," click on "Adjust ClearType text," and follow the calibration process. If you have multiple monitors, you might as well do this for all of them.
I periodically notice grays in the Windows desktop are too light on my (Ryzen 9 RTX 2060) G14's panel. For example, Chrome's light gray address bar (#f1f3f4) and tabs (#dee1e6) become indistinguishable from Chrome's white header (#ffffff).
Not sure what triggers it (I'm not able to consistently reproduce the issue).
Adjusting ClearType fixes it every time, so it's not a big deal. Anyone else experience this behavior?
I am not sure when this did start but I did notice that chrome (and other chrome based browser) ignore Windows 10 ClearType settings and use some sort of its own antialiasing mechanism.
Prove it yourself:
- Open Chrome and Firefox on same page.
- Search `ClearType Settings` in windows and turn on / off / change settings
- See that the text in firefox is changing and the one in chrome does not.
https://preview.redd.it/49eowsuh5sm61.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6714933c9a021742922812bbca4d9203671509c
Initially posted this as a comment in the megathread, but figured it'd get burried... so here i am. It didn't happen immediately upon initial boot into v2004, however there was a further, .NET update that needed to be run and also required a reboot. When the machine came back up this morning, I've been presented with icons and text that looks horrendous. It's everywhere. I thought perhaps I may have an issue with ClearType, but ran through that process and everything seems to check out okay. I also looked into scaling options, to see if that was somehow adjusted from 100%, but no dice.
I'm running 2560x1440 which is the native resolution of my display(s) and these are my results now: https://i.imgur.com/PIxPesS.png
Any suggestions. Intel Graphics Command Center and nVidia Control Panel were two new applications that were installed as part of the update process. If i've failed to provide further relevant information, please just say the word -- happy to oblige. Otherwise, the upgrade process went quite well. Eager to dig into these changes a bit more, but i'll be blind by the end of the day trying to read this janky text everywhere. Help! Thanks, yer nice.
Everything worked perfectly yesterday and I've been using this machine for ~3 years without problems of this nature. I'm not sure where to start... who is at fault here? Intel? nVidia? Microsoft.
I noticed this when I started using Sony X900F TV as a monitor a few days ago, but it's under a specific set of circumstances.
When I set the TV in game mode, which is required for PC usage due to input lag, all the letters in File Explorer, Chrome, and some other programs have a slight purple tinge.
This only happens in game mode with ClearType enabled, when I disable it the letters are black again but slightly more difficult to read even at 4k, it's not bad but would prefer to keep Clear on and retain the black regular color.
On other TV modes, they are still black even with Cleartype on, so no idea whats' the problem. A year ago I was using another TV as a monitor, Samsung NU7100 which was considerably worse but had 0 issues of this type.
I want to slightly reduce text sharpness, but I don't want that to affect the rest of the graphics like video and gaming.
Posting this here because I'm wondering if (among other things) it could be some laptop-specific issue, but I could be wrong.
I have an Acer Nitro 5, model AN515-54, and I'm trying to use it with an external monitor and the laptop screen serving to extend the display. The monitor and the laptop display have the same native resolution (1920x1080), refresh rate (60Hz), and colour settings (RGB). I'm using the Windows-recommended scaling for each (125% for the laptop screen, 100% for the monitor).
The setup mostly works well, except for problems with ClearType. Whichever display I've set as the main one determines the ClearType settings for both. In other words, the appearance of text on the secondary display changes as I calibrate ClearType for the primary one, but does not respond when I calibrate the monitor on which it's actually displayed. ClearType settings for the main display (whether it's the laptop screen or the external monitor) are applied across the board. As you can imagine, this is frustrating as the displays use different values for scaling - it means I have to pick one of my monitors to be "the blurry one".
Strangely enough, no other calibration settings are affected - for instance, I can independently control the colour balance of each. I've also verified that it has nothing to do with the external display itself (the problem persisted with a different monitor), the scaling (setting the laptop to 100% for consistency with the external monitor didn't help), or any drivers (problem persisted before and after updating drivers for all monitors, as well as the Intel UHD and NVIDIA GeForce cards).
This may be a problem in Windows itself, but I also wonder if it has something to do with the GPU's. The laptop display is connected to the internal Intel GPU, but the HDMI port is connected to the discrete NVIDIA card. When I click "Identify displays" in the NVIDIA Control Panel, the number 1 appears on both monitors (although Windows itself correctly identifies them separately). Also, the laptop display disappears from the PhysX configuration when I plug in the external monitor. I'm wondering if the GeForce is somehow treating them as parts of the "same" display, and if this behaviour is somehow influencing that of ClearType?
Any help is greatly appreciated - I've been Googling like crazy, and haven't found anything about this specific issue (beyond re-installing the drivers).
For reference, I am using Version 1809 of Windows 10, and the NV
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Thank you in advance
Look closely guys, because 14316 gave Edge subpixel antialiasing. Halleluiah! We're back in 21st century.
This gives me hope for other UWP apps.
edit: example
Hi everyone,
I just upgraded my 2016 XPS 13 to a 2019 XPS 13 (7390 w/ 1080p touchscreen), and the text has issues when the windows night light/bluelight filter is on. The text appears to have splotches of blue/white (perhaps unfiltered) light around many of the characters. I've disabled adaptive/dynamic brightness in the bios, updated the Intel UHD drivers from Dell (from November '19), and even tried disabling Windows HDR. Issue seems to be related to cleartype - it's fine with it off.
Does anyone have any advice? It does not seem like a hardware issue, but it also seems crazy that an issue like this would not have been fixed. I'm wondering if a complete reformat would help, but this issue is out of the box.
Latest version of windows 10.
Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/vtVFx2e (it's more difficult to see in the picture, but those splotches of blue are very prevalent on the screen)
Hi, i have experiencing issue mentioned in post name.
Here are pictures detailing the issue: https://imgur.com/a/qdqXMMK?
Using cleartype utility in windows10 doesn't help much.
Please check out these two images at imgur, and do zoom in to 100% on them to see the true full resolution image:
https://imgur.com/gallery/P0yaQU3
How can I get crisp text both in legacy applications and in applications with new UI? If I have cleartext on, the new UI looks good but the old bad. If I turn it off, it's the other way around.
My font size is at 125% and I run Win10 v1909. The applications you see is Notepad++ and the settings screen for cleartype
ClearType Fonts in Firefox look like crap all of a sudden. They're much grayer and diffuse looking than in other programs like Microsoft Edge, which I'm including in the screenshot below. This is not a subtle change, and I haven't done anything to make it happen. Any ideas? Windows 10 x64, FF 65.
This is the default zoom for both programs. Please click on the image to view it at full size.
https://preview.redd.it/pf5t9bwqhhd21.png?width=745&format=png&auto=webp&s=b1ddae9081ac43d71a611c23975c4e5582729c42
ClearType is a system in all versions of Windows from Vista onwards which makes the on-screen text look smoother and less chunky. It is supposed to make the text easier to read.
Maybe I'm just crazy or nostalgia-blinded, but I think I might actually PREFER the way text looks when you turn off ClearType. I'm not even entirely sure why, I just think it looks nicer that way.
Maybe it is because I grew up using Windows 98 and XP? (my old school had computers running Windows XP all the way until 2015. They were a very low-tech bunch)
It has been sorted on Fedora a while, all sorted on RHEL 8? It is essential.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-ClearType-Subpixel-Font
>31 October 2018
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>Fedora has finally enabled ClearType sub-pixel rendering in FreeType for providing much nicer font rendering.
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>ClearType is Microsoft's sub-pixel font rendering technology to make fonts appear crisper on LCD displays. ClearType has been around for almost two decades and while upstream FreeType has supported, it hasn't been turned on in Fedora. Microsoft has at least nine patents covering ClearType as outlined on FreeType.org, which made it a no-go for Fedora to ship.
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>But now that Microsoft joined the Open Invention Network with 60,000+ patents, Fedora is comfortable in turning on ClearType!
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>Fedora's FreeType packages have now enabled ClearType code "thanks to Microsoft joining OIN" and then further fixed up today. Thereby fonts will begin looking much nicer on Fedora Workstation soon as the package updates are sent out.
I have a Lenovo x1 connected to an eGPU with RX570 that powers my 4k + 2k monitor. The 2k monitor's text looks fuzzy so I tried to calibrate ClearType on it but whenever I try, it doesn't proceed through the calibration process. Right when I click next I get the message that calibration is done and if I want to proceed to calibrate another monitor.
I'm running the monitors using DisplayPort cable. I'm not sure what's going on. Any suggestions on improving the fuzziness?
We just moved from Citrix to WVD through Azure. This is working pretty good, however end users are complaining about text being hard to read. We were able to fix this by turning on ClearType inside the users profiles, but some how it is getting turned off randomly. We are using app delivery instead of whole desktop. Anyone else having this issues?
Just read from Phoronix that ClearType font rendering is committed to Fedora.
Does anybody know if we cna use it in Fedora 29 or do we need to wait until Fedora 30 to get it?
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-ClearType-Subpixel-Font
