The scenario: an emotionally neglected woman meets a guy and slowly realizes she’s in love with him.
The problem: the guy who’s emotionally neglecting her is her husband.
I’ve read enough of certain other popular subreddits to know that people who cheat are not looked upon kindly, and few seem to understand there are two sides to these stories.
Is it possible to describe the breakdown of the marriage and the wife’s realization that she really loves another, without making her look like a horrible human being?
I’m currently rewatching S2 and there’s several references to June as an “adulteress” or a “fallen woman” but I don’t understand how this is public knowledge…
I know there obviously must have been public records stating that Luke was married twice - to Annie and June - but how is it such common knowledge that June and Luke began their affair before Luke was separated?? Could it be something to do with when Hannah was born? I’m definitely missing something here I think!
Any suggestions?
^(10)"And behold, the woman meets him, dressed as a prostitute, wily of heart.
^(11)She is loud and wayward; her feet do not stay at home;
^(12)now in the street, now in the market, and at every corner she lies in wait.
^(13)She seizes him and kisses him, and with bold face she says to him,
^(14)'I had to offer sacrifices and today I have paid my vows;
^(15)so now I have come out to meet you, to seek you eagerly, and I have found you.
^(16)I have spread my couch with coverings, colored linens from Egyptian linen;
^(17)I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
^(18)Come let us take our fill of love till morning; let us delight ourselves with love.
^(19)For my husband is not at home; he has gone on a long journey;
^(20)he took a bag of money with him; at full moon he will come home.'
^(21)With much seductive speech she persuades him; with her smooth talk she compels him.
^(22)All at once he follows her, as an ox goes to the slaughter, or as a stag is caught fast
^(23)till an arrow pierces its liver; as a bird rushes into a snare; he does not know that it will cost him his life.
^(24)And now, O sons, listen to me, and be attentive to the words of my mouth.
^(25)Let not your heart turn aside to her ways; do not stray into her paths,
^(26)for many a victim has she laid low, and all her slain are a mighty throng.
^(27)Her house is the way of Sheol, going down to the chambers of death."
Proverbs 7:10-27 ESV.
Kind reminder that men and women must refrain from the calling of PMO and adultery. God bless us in this journey!
Where did I get the idea that because I had had premarital sex I was more likely to be tempted to commit adultery when I was married? Was this another Miracle of Forgiveness treat? I carried around this worry and doubt about myself for 20 years. So stupid!
Is the story of Jesus and Adulteress a fabrication in the book of John OR was it later added through oral tradition but did/didn't really happened OR was this story in some early books that I'm not aware of? I really like this story and want it to be a factual one because for me, this seperates Jesus from other Abrahamic prophets (not that this is the only story that does that but still). I'm not lying when I say I LOVE this story. Thank you in advance.
Edit: spellings
Was the author of John's Gospel making a point of some kind? Would they have stoned the adulteress if Jesus had responded affirmatively to the Pharisees' question?
The great majority of scholars hold that the so-called pericope adulterae or “PA” (the story of Jesus and the adulteress found in John 7.53–8.11) is not original to John’s Gospel. The first manuscript of John to include this story is Codex Bezae (D), which dates to the fifth century, and on internal grounds these verses interrupt the narrative of John’s Gospel and feature non-Johannine vocabulary and grammar https://danielbwallace.com/2013/06/26/where-is-the-story-of-the-woman-caught-in-adultery-really-from/
He stands in front of the crowd who already have their hands raised with the stones, holds out his hands and proclaims " Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her. "
The hands sink, and the congregation starts to hang their head in shame as suddenly a stone comes flying from the back and hits the woman right between the eyes.
Jesus is furious and he moves through the crowd, wanting to find out who dares to... but as he spots the perpetrator, he stomps the ground and yells "Why can't you leave me alone, you always have to embarrass me in front of my friends, mom!"
I’ve been contemplating June’s plight. The consensus here is that the reason she’s enslaved to be a Handmaid was because she was guilty of adultery and (more importantly) had a healthy womb.
Now, I’m beginning to rethink that. In S2 E03 (Baggage), while she’s >!while she’s hiding in Omar’s apartment, she monologues that this could have been her life, if she’d gone to the right church, etc.!<
So, it got me wondering about what was going on in the country when >!she, Luke and Hannah made a run for the Canadian border in S1 E07 (The Other Side)? What prompted them to go then? !<
I recall part of the issue was Luke’s pedantic nature in waiting for >!exit visas.!< But, was there something aside from June being >!kicked out of her job, Moira fleeing and the (probably) increasingly meddlesome government under martial law?!< What event finally pushed them over the edge?
Any ideas? Is the book any help as a resource on this?
But back to my original thought: if they hadn’t fled, but instead had endeavored to blend in, keep their heads down, etc, would June have been enslaved as a Handmaid, just because of her relationship with Luke? Or was the real reason she is in this predicament is because she was caught trying to leave and then they looked into her past?
Salam alaikum,
so the Quran mentions lashing and not stoning. Did the prophet actually stone someone? If he did, I assume the incident must have happened before these verses were revealed, right?
How could someone who chose to forgive one of the worst people do something of this caliber to a woman who committed adultery (and showed remorse)?
I find it hard to reconcile. It seems almost like two different people. May God forgive me if I'm wrong.
Ex-JNMIL stories here because she was unbearably evil and ex-SO had no spine so eventually I walked!
SO and I had been an item approximately three days when JNMIL started emailing me intensely. At first it was nice things, trying to be welcoming, but it got steadily more and more evangelical Christian. Note, I am Christian, that's fine, but she was going off the deep end. Eventually her emails turned into rants and sermons about purity and virginity. I sighed and let her continue, assuming that she was doing it to (in her mind) protect her GS.
Eventually, however, I go a smidge offended by the unceasing emails and sent back a very polite response thanking her for her insight and concern for me and SO but informing her that I'm not a virgin and that I found her emails a bit offensive.
Cue the world ending.
From that moment on it was like trying to deal with the devil herself. Everything I said or did was wrong and consciously to offend her. Throughout this SO did... nothing.
Come three years later and SO proposed. Now, for the record, I can't remember saying yes, but I guess I said something that wasn't obviously a no! Lord if she was bad before it just got worse....
Wedding prep got underway and eventually I bought a dress! It was beautiful and, what wedding dress makers call, gold. (For reference, I'm very pale so white and ivory make me look like the walking dead.) For months I got emails about subversion and not wearing white which symbolises purity and how it wasn't a wedding dress and I was ruining the whole day. I didn't back down, obvs, because gold in wedding dress terms is cream by any other name.
Eventually JNMIL phoned SO to cry about how I'm ruining their special day and that I'm not good enough for her GS. Mid way through the call she announces to SO that, if he goes through with it, he'll have to pray to Jesus for forgiveness for making me an adulteress because I'm not a virgin.
SO gets off the phone and I give him a piece of my mind and a large dose of the theology of grace (bless that theology degree)... and call it off. He goes off the deep end, telling me his loyalty is to his mum until we're married and that I have no right to be upset by her speaking gods truth.
I think it took about three minutes for me to physically throw him out of my apartment.
You'd think that was the end of it, no? But for months I got texts, calls and emails from JNMIL and SO; threatening all kind of church crazy. Eventually I just blocked them
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Is the story of Jesus and Adulteress a fabrication in the book of John OR was it later added through oral tradition but did/didn't really happened OR was this story in some early books that I'm not aware of? I really like this story and want it to be true because FOR ME, this seperates Jesus from other Abrahamic prophets (not that this is the only story that does that but still). I'm not lying when I say I LOVE this story. Thank you in advance.
