Youth Reform Movement Puns

Regardless of how poorly the r/antiwork MOD presented themselves, the biggest mistake was agreeing to do an interview in the first place.

Go on strike first.

Edit: I'm not saying no interviews should ever be done. I'm saying they should never be done with Fox News. That's like trying to convert people to atheism in church on Sunday morning. Fox News is successful because they deliberately tap into generations of indoctrination. Even the most well spoken, well prepared representative won't change that in an interview. It's a waste of time. Find a different outlet.

As much as I do realize that the education (college) system is broken, cancelling student debt is yet another short-term solution that does nothing to fix these problems and only serves as a way to keep people distracted from the aforementioned problems. Without fixing the student loan system, canceling student loan debt does nothing, sure you’ve gotten rid of some debt, but there will just be more and more high school grads taking out loans and we will be in the exact same boat that we are in today. As a result, it is my opinion that we should focus on true education and student loan reform before canceling student debt so as to address the roots of the problem

I get it. I’m not minimizing or joking when I say I’ve been abused by conservative institutions and ideals my entire life. Well, y’know who else has? Conservatives. That’s right. Everyone has. You know what’s worse than a trumper in your midst? Your fucking dead end, underpaying job. Your lack of guaranteed health insurance. Your fucking student loans. Your lack of paid maternity leave and childcare support. The workplace discrimination. The soul and body killing productivity culture. So and so forth.

Well, I got news for you. The system was rigged long before conservatives got wind of it. They’re just as fucked as the rest of us.

So while y’all are busy continually blaming other workers who espouse beliefs you believe are antithetical to your cause, I’m gonna be over here trying to figure out what I can do to help and support work reform. Why? Because it’s the fucking right thing to do.

I could end with a “who’s with me?!!”. But fuck that. How about “Lead. Follow. Or get out of the way”.

EDIT: and for all fucks’ sake, I don’t need to vote for a moderator. Moderators moderate. That’s fucking it. If they can’t handle that, they need to be moderated. Does anyone really think that voting for moderators is going to keep mods from becoming assholes?

https://twitter.com/MakeVotesMatter/status/1484524731135107077 Nice takedown by Rory of why FPTP is bad for independent MP's and nice to see PR gaining traction.

I am disabled, my friends are disabled, my community is disabled. At 17 I got sick and work has been killing me since then. I can't not work, because I need to afford food and shelter and medications- my life is more expensive then an abled persons is. My commute kills me each day. If I am especially ill one day, I can't afford to call out, so I work through it. I have been denied SSI, but even if it was granted, I could never save more then $2000- and at 25, I want to save for a house and a wedding.

To me, this movement has an actual death toll, and my friends live under that weight. We work together to fix the problems of the current system, and as leftists we build something which allows for each according to their ability, or my community keeps dying a slow, painful death.

The recent....debacle.... is so disheartening, because I see people who don't give a shit about the human lives at stake, damaging the value of the movement as a whole.

And so I have to go to work tomorrow, leaving my mobility aids at home so I am not at risk of being fired. I have to sit in a way which further injures my tailbone, and causes my wrists to degrade faster. Then, after 8 hours and only a 30 min lunch, I have to take the bus home and hope I have enough cognitive awareness left that I get off at the right stop. All for a bullshit reception job.

Humans have always had to work in some capacity. We are the greatest toolmakers on this planet & I find that very fascinating. I'm a fabricator & CNC programmer and I love working with my hands, but the USA is SO far behind when it comes to to worker's rights. We're on the same plane as some under-developed countries in terms of worker's rights. Literally requiring LESS than the bare minimum in this country for worker's rights. Two weeks of paid vacation isn't even a federal law, it's just the norm, there is LITERALLY NO requirement for paid vacation time in the USA.

I enjoy my job & I know I'm extremely lucky to even say that, but I'm still stressed and unhappy throughout the work week. All I want is good healthcare, more vacation & sick time, a 32hr max work week, & 3 day weekends. Work-life balance is what we are fighting for.

Thank you for continuing the movement. Cheers everyone.

I would see several posts a day from anti work on r/all with many different topics. I never really agreed with the sub’s name since the sub wanted change more than to stop working completely.

The only thing that didn’t make sense was the sub’s direction. Some posts were all about work and getting better working conditions/pay while other posts went far beyond this such as renting conditions/home ownership and more.

There’s a tone wrong with the world, but perhaps the sub can accomplish more on setting some goals.

I don't think subreddit mods are a justified hierarchy, and I think that having the aesthetic of a hierarchy in a decentralized movement is an unnecessary liability as demonstrated by recent events. If we can't self-organize without centralization then we're not going to get anywhere. Reddit is structured so that every community is in the hand of a small number of individuals - so if we want to continue to organize and share in this space we need to come up with solutions to try to create a functional space with the minimum amount of hierarchy, preferably none. We also want to minimize the very appearance of hierarchy to avoid confusion or people trying to paint themselves as the face of our campaign for human rights. Reddit isn't an optimal place to organize, but we're already here so I hope in the comments below we can brainstorm some solutions. I'm going to spitball a few ideas, not because I think they could work, but I want to get the ball rolling and try to contribute rather than just saying "Hey this is a problem".

- We elect and rotate mods. If a mod doesn't leave when un-elected, we make a new subreddit. As a downside, this makes mod seem like representatives rather than vetted volunteers - but it'll stop any formal permanent establishment of any specific personalities in leadership.

- A volunteer that already has the trust of the community promises really hard to be hands-off and also make a public statement abdicated any representative authority for the community. Heck, that's a good idea in general.

- We diversify our social media presence in order to be less hierarchical in appearance, as it will be clear to the less tech literate and outsiders that a reddit mod doesn't represent one and a half million workers.

Please share your ideas & hopefully come up with some better, more actionable ones!

*Also, because I feel we need a reminder, disliking a trans person is not permission to misgender them. Don't alienate trans workers from the movement just because you're upset that one of them caused harm.

Hey, I am interested to hear everyone's opinion on political activism. I feel workers rights are now a non-partisan issue. It is a class issue. Which I think will have a very hard time moving in a positive direction long-term unless we also have a push to reform the way that the government operates and who the government represents.

I would like to begin the discussion about whether or not we want to include language like this in our demands for change. Do we want to discuss the corruption in government or do we leave that for a separate movement? I feel like it is necessary to address this as it has a direct effect our the way we can impact government policy.

Lets use this list of demands as a starting point for discussion. From Represent.US

The list below is only a starting point and I would like to not get bogged down in the specifics from this list. But rather to focus on whether or not we think something like this (that we create) might be beneficial and necessary.

1 STOP POLITICAL BRIBERY

Make it illegal for politicians to take money from lobbyists.

Politicians get extraordinary sums of money in the form of campaign donations from the special interests who lobby them. In return, politicians create laws favorable to these special interests – even when those laws hurt voters.

Under the American Anti-Corruption Act, people who get paid to lobby cannot donate to politicians.

Ban lobbyist bundling.

Lobbyists regularly bundle together big contributions from their friends and colleagues and deliver them in one lump sum to politicians. This turns lobbyists into major fundraisers, giving politicians an incentive to keep them happy by working political favors.

The Act prohibits lobbyists from bundling contributions.

Close the revolving door.

Lobbyists and special interests routinely offer public officials high-paying lobbying jobs. Politicians and their staff routinely move straight from government to these lucrative lobbying jobs, where they get paid to influence their former colleagues.

The Act stops elected representatives and senior staff from selling off their government power for high-paying lobbying jobs, prohibits them from negotiating jobs while in office, and bars them from paid lobbying activity for several years once they leave.

Prevent politicians from fundraising during working hours.

Most federal politicians spend between 3 and 7 hours a day fundraising from big donors instead of working on issues that m

Following that interview, I feel that there is a small window of opportunity for this to be publicly made right. One that we, in the thousands, can agree on. What we are about. What we stand for.

If we let this go, that’s it. They win. We let a Reddit mod, who was so deeply unprepared, spinelessly, carelessly represent us.

This cannot be the highlight of our movement. We need a strong voice!

DAE WARDLOW WANTS TO BE AN AEW LIFER?

I found myself occasionally sympathetic to a lot of the posts in the old sub but was super turned off by the name and the way it characterized the people that participated it. At least in the culture I grew up in being against work itself is a pretty big character flaw. I can totally support more time to work for/on myself than for my paycheck, though.

The benefits of reddit also put every sub's existence at reddit's discretion. Reddit provides great opportunity to find each other and organize, which is great until it evaporates after an admin's keystroke. The antiwork implosion is a perfect example of what can happen when a handful of people have total control over the means that millions of us use to support each other and organize. We are ultimately a guest in somebody's house and must leave when asked.

I want the work reform movement to grow. I want it to prosper without the threat of instant evaporation. It will take a long time to change the exploitative system that has been building on itself for decades. This won't go anywhere if it has to repeatedly start over. The opponents know this.

How can this become less vulnerable?

Why this matters to me personally -

Antiwork, prior to its unfortunate turn, struck a nerve with me. I feel this. Work reform is critical to our future. I grew up in poverty, enduring years of working for minimum wage with skyrocketing inflation and college costs. Decades later I'm doing well. Antiwork showed me that the challenges I fought years ago have grown exponentially since.

I recall a short little angry boss screaming in my face. I recall enduring that abuse until I secured a new job. I see now that the abuse is greater, the new jobs provide little relief, and people work multiple jobs and still can't afford basic needs. I worked for Amazon for several years and saw how they manipulate and leverage against their employees - stealing their wages and delivering them to shareholders. This has been accelerating in the wrong direction for decades.

I'm here because I know what it is like and want to make this better for my children. It would be selfish to only ensure my own family's future. That selfishness created the environment in which the greed and 1% flourished. That simply is not right. We're all in this together.

Work reform needs a safe home where its growing momentum can be sustained. How?

I am new here from r/antiwork, left just before the implosion. Work Reform really is a better way of describing what the movement really should be about. Not being against work, but the reform of it. Standing against the exploitation of workers. Support network for standing against poor management and bosses. Idea sharing for professional ways to express the feelings of the worker in the workplace. That's at least how I feel.

Good job 👏 no really, good job 👏

Y’all are no better than the bosses and managers we hate. If y’all have any sense of shame or responsibility whatsoever, you’ll do the right thing and step the fuck down. We, the workers who are putting up with bullshit everyday, don’t need you. We were here before you. We will be here after you. You are not the leaders of this sub. You are not the movement. At this point, you aren’t even moderators. You are nothing.

I hope you enjoyed your fifteen minutes of fame. If your actions are any evidence of your character, these interviews and this power-tripping bullshit will be the only credible things you’ll ever accomplish in your life. However, I expect you to do the complete opposite.

A 21-year old anarchist who enforces hierarchy. How ironic. Y’all are so fucking selfish. Egotistical. Hypocritical. I could go on and on. Fuck you for ruining the legitimacy of this, and future, online work reform movements.

Grow the fuck up.

I asked this in AskHistorians, but didn't get an answer so figured I'll ask it here.

Japan in the late 60s/70s had huge leftist protest movements by university students, some devolving into violence. These events left a indelible mark on Japanese culture and media at that time.

But now, it seems Japanese youth are really apolitical and doesn't seem to have the same passion/energy of the 70s. Why did these leftist movements peter out, when their parents generation seemed so passionately into revolutionary ideals?