Realizing Valence Bond theory is a lie
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πŸ‘€︎ u/JadedEarthJuni
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Bonding in the NO2- [Nitrite Ion] valence bond theory vs MO theory.

My question is asking to describe the bonding in the NO2- ion using valnece bond theory versus Molecular Orbital theory. I know that the ion is bent and that there are 2 sigma bonds and 1 pi bond and that the nitrogen is sp2 hybridized. But the latter part of my question asks how MO theory describes the pi bond in the species.

This is a general chem course and I frankly have no clue how to go about drawing a MO diagram for a non-diatomic molecule, so I’m guessing there’s something else I have to pay attention to here. I’m not sure how to even start on a potential solution, do I have to think about it conceptually or just learb how to draw multi-atom MO diagrams?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/zoinkzonk
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Valence bond theory youtu.be/ZBN2TE24N3I
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Valence bond theory youtu.be/ZBN2TE24N3I
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Need help understanding Valence Bond theory and Molecular Orbital Theory

I'm a freshman, currently taking up chem. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head on the ideas on these theories. Can anyone care to explain it to me? I'll be a great help for me.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/benrick123
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RANT: Stop saying valence bond theory and orbital hybridization is a β€œlie,” you’re just going to confuse students even further

I’m so sick and tired of this situation: someone asks a question about hybridization, VBT, etc. and then some smartass invariably in the comments says β€œVbT iS a LiE, oRbItAls dOnT hYbRiDIzE, MO tHeOrY iS tHe OnLy rEAL tHeOrY”

We get it, you’re really fucking intelligent because you took chemistry courses past orgo II. No one cares. Just answer the question so the student understands, instead of confusing them with a bunch of information about MO theory, group theory, and quantum mechanics they don’t need.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/lIamachemist
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[ASAP] Unifying Conceptual Density Functional and Valence Bond Theory: The Hardness–Softness Conundrum Associated with Protonation Reactions and Uncovering Complementary Reactivity Modes

Journal of the American Chemical SocietyDOI: 10.1021/jacs.0c09041

Thijs Stuyver and Sason Shaik

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πŸ‘€︎ u/TomisMeMyselfandI
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Valence bond theory. Can someone please check my homework?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Imtyguy
πŸ“…︎ Jul 02 2019
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MOT and Valence Theory, What is the most current understanding of chemical bonds?

My questions are pretty straightforward, and hopefully will start a discussion:

What is the best way to understand why chemical bonds break and form? What are the most fundamental forces at work?

What gives you the best understanding or perspective for intuition into why atoms behave the way they do?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/DIYjackass
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How can valence bond theory and molecular orbital theory be combined and still be considered correct?

Even after a year of organic chemistry and a year of general chemistry I am not sure how to reconcile these two theories in my mind. In o-chem, it is common to say, for example, that the two carbons in ethylene are sp2 hybridized but that the double bond is a pi bond. Why is this correct? Why can Lewis structures, which rely on VB theory, still be an accurate representation of molecules when in reality all electrons are shared in the molecular orbital?

Note that I am NOT a chemistry major and that I have not taken physical chemistry. I have never worked with wave functions or anything of that sort. My knowledge of bonding is solely from organic and general chemistry.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Plague_Girl
πŸ“…︎ Dec 14 2014
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Formal Charge, Oxidation State, and Valence Bond Theory.

I was brushing up on my chemistry knowledge and was reading about formal charge. Wikipedia says formal charge is one way to describe electron distribution in bonds while oxidation number is another. One assumes electrons are perfectly shared while the other assumes electrons are not shared at all. My understanding is that Valence Bond Theory is the truth in between and the basis for modern chemistry.

I was wondering why formal charge and oxidation state are still taught if they give an incomplete picture of chemistry. Are either of these methods used often outside of academia? Thanks for the input.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/fernandzer0
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Born today : October 23rd - Gilbert N. Lewis, Physical Chemist, "known for the discovery of the covalent bond and his concept of electron pairs", "Lewis dot structures and other contributions to valence bond theory have shaped modern theories of chemical bonding", "nominated 35 times" for the Nobel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/spike77wbs
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[Chemistry] Valence Bond Theory: hybridization of atomic orbitals.

http://imgur.com/LBN3lye

I'm having a ton of trouble understanding this section. Can someone please explain how I know how many, I don't even know what they're called, red balloons to draw? Is it based on VSEPR or the number of valence electrons?

I would really appreciate an ELI5 version.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/sweetfrown
πŸ“…︎ Dec 13 2015
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Born today : October 23rd - Gilbert N. Lewis, Physical Chemist, "known for the discovery of the covalent bond and his concept of electron pairs", "Lewis dot structures and other contributions to valence bond theory have shaped modern theories of chemical bonding", "nominated 35 times" for the Nobel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/spike77wbs
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All life - is really just chemistry. How matter changes. Chemical Bonds. Valence...
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Tintovic
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Lewis structure,valence bond theory, and molecular orbital theory

How does lewis structure, the valence bond thoery and the molecular orbital theory explain covalent bonding?

This is part of a test review. Is there a simple way to explain it?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Etang600
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Using the valence bond theory to explain different type of conductors?

What is the valence bond exactly and how do you use it to explain the difference between a conductor, an isolator and a semiconductor?

I know how electrons move through solid material and how they make electricity. As in example a solar panel, which uses p- and n-type semiconductors. But I can't wrap my head around the questions above.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/whistlingWeed
πŸ“…︎ Dec 11 2014
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Born today : October 23rd - Gilbert N. Lewis, Physical Chemist, "known for the discovery of the covalent bond and his concept of electron pairs", "Lewis dot structures and other contributions to valence bond theory have shaped modern theories of chemical bonding", "nominated 35 times" for the Nobel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gil…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/spike77wbs
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if sulfur can form only two single bonds since it has 6 valence electrons, then why does the lewis structure of H2SO3 look like this?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ybejtja18
πŸ“…︎ Sep 30 2021
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Why does the ozone lewis structure need a double Bond? It already has 8 valence electrons in this format and the charges stay the same
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TDIH: Walter Heinrich Heitler, born January 2, 1904, was a German physicist who made contributions to quantum electrodynamics and quantum field theory. He brought chemistry under quantum mechanics through his theory of valence bonding. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Paul-Belgium
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On Dark Rooms, Jhanas, Ecstasy, and the Symmetry Theory of Valence qualiacomputing.com/2021/…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/appliedphilosophy
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What's valence electrons and covalent bond?

im just curious,and if any of u guys know about it lmk

Ik google exists too but i just felt like asking here

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πŸ‘€︎ u/poiuytre7
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Given Hund's law, how do atoms bond with each other, given the fact their valence electrons are often of up spin?

Reading through my chemistry book, I became curious about this and sadly there were no answers to it written in and specific information like this is hard to find on Google.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/FrikinWeeb
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On Dark Rooms, Jhanas, Ecstasy, and the Symmetry Theory of Valence qualiacomputing.com/2021/…
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A Primer on the Symmetry Theory of Valence opentheory.net/2021/07/a-…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/nu-gaze
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Ultrahard magnetism from mixed-valence dilanthanide complexes with metal-metal bonding science.org/doi/10.1126/s…
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Atomic Orbital Theory, Molecular Orbital Theory, Valence Bond Theory.

What are the differences between these three theories?

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