I opted to ask you guys about this since I've seen people who promote or talk about this are either hardcore communists/marxist or people who just hate america in general; who do their best to discredit some of the achievements they have gained over the years.
Hello everyone. It's time to talk about royal one, given the news. Maybe you know, there was wedding in Russia But what about China? Puyi was captured by Red Army (some people are still searching Amur river for his gold and jewelry lol), then he was released to Communist China. But what about minor members? Were they shot like most of Romanovs? And who is (if any) the head of this... House? Family?
For some reason it seems incredibly popular for people to say some variation of "acktually did you know the real reason Japan surrendered was the USSR invading China". This is painfully stupid, and is generally a dead giveaway that the person saying it has a serious anti-US agenda, is completely historically illiterate, or likely both.
Like, I could just point out that the Japanese leadership that decided to surrender explicitly said they were doing it because of the US, and largely of the atomic bomb. I genuinely don't get why it's even a topic of contention when that alone should settle it, but just for funsies let's pretend we didn't already know that for a fact, and just think this through.
The theory is that the Japanese were really afraid of the Soviets, so they surrendered as soon as they entered the war. This begs the question, what in the world makes the Soviets so scary? People just accept this as fact, and it makes less than zero sense. Let's compare the two.
The US:
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Just spent 4ish years completely decimating the Japanese navy, including all of their capital ships of note.
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Already proved through a brutal island hopping campaign and the invasion of France that they were incredibly capable of conducting large scale amphibious assaults successfully
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Had just demonstrated that they had weapons orders of magnitude more powerful than anything that the human race had ever devised, and threatened to continue dropping them until the entirety of japan was dead.
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Had the largest and most powerful Navy in human history, parked basically just off the Japanese shore, and was regularly dropping bombs of all sort on the mainland
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Had actual operational plans to invade
The USSR:
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Got completely clowned on by the Japanese navy just a few decades ago
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Has no Navy to speak of, and was essentially reliant on US merchant shipping for the duration of the war.
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Had a grand total of zero amphibious assault craft
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Had conducted zero large scale amphibious assaults
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Had no plans to invade mainland Japan, and could not physically get troops there without the US's permission anyways.
But somehow, looking at this, some people think the Japanese were sitting there shitting their pants at the latter and not the former. I get it, US bad and what not, but there's so many ways to make that point that don't just make you look like an absolute buffoon to anyone that's ever read a damn history book. The worst part is they'll often accuse anyone
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Lets just say that both Japan and USSR stablished some solid borders between Manchuria and Mongolia to avoid war. How would this affect WW2?
The story is from the "The Conquering Tide". The Japanese was hoping for Stalin to mediate to end the war on terms other than unconditional surrender. What does mediation entail? That is, did the Japanese expect the Soviets to threaten the Americans to get the Japanese better terms? For Stalin to provide conference rooms in Moscow for Allied and Japanese negotiators to meet?
It would mean that a unified socialist country would have been made instead of the partitioned peninsula during the OTL. The Korean war would surely never happen
- How would its neighbors and the two Superpowers treat this new country?
- How would this Korea play in the the International stage, at the time of the Cold War, would it participate in events such as the Vietnam War? Would it covertly support leftist movements and rebellions? How about the foothold the DPRK currently has in Japan, the Chongryon?
- Economically, how would Korea fare? Can it compete with the rising economies of its neighbors such as Japan and Taiwan? Compared to other communist nations, would the economy of this Korea be among the best? What industries could this Korea be good at?
- Politically, how would it turn out, would Kim il Sung still enjoy the status that he had in the OTL? like the cult and the dynasty, or would new influential figures and groups emerge? Would Kim il Sung stay in power like he did in the OTL?
- Would this timeline's Armed forces be as feared as they are today, would they develop their own armed industries and develop advanced weapons such as rockets and nukes?
- If after the end of the Cold War, if it would end peacefully, would this country see a reform towards Capitalism?
- Culturally speaking how will Koreans be perceived in this timeline? Who would fill the void that Korean pop Culture has in our timeline ?
Whithout entering in the nukes debate, Japan in 1945 had lost his fleet and being firebombed daily. They still wanted to fight the war, they were prepared to meet an American invasion of the homeland. So why being so preocupaid by a Soviet invasion of his colonies, like Manchuria?
For clarification the country would be split between British and American occupation. This would also differ in the Japanese having the recreate their entire government and trials for the war crimes committed during the war.
