[todayilearned] TIL that Francis Bellamy, famous for creating the United States pledge of allegiance, was β€œan early American democratic socialist” who "believed in the absolute separation of church and state" and did not include the phrase "under God" in his pledge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Know_Your_Shit_v2
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Rutgers professor tells student not to cite the Bible in essays because of the β€˜separation of church and state’ archive.ph/bGUli
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People who don’t respect separation of church and state should be told to leave the country instead.

So many so-called β€œpatriots” are conservative Christians who are constantly wanting β€œJesus back in schools” and wanting to inject god into government institutions. They are clueless to how un-American this line of thinking is and can barely fathom people in their community not believing the same things they do.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/kevonicus
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Oklahoma Legislature: "In God We Trust" Proponent Says Separation of Church and State Is Impossible

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-and-politics/oklahoma-legislature-in-god-we-trust-proponent-says-separation-of/article_ef8b40bd-2c25-53a7-bcf1-ad79a2d83931.html

OKLAHOMA CITY β€” Separation of church and state does not and cannot exist in the United States, the lawmaker carrying a bill that would require that β€œIn God We Trust” be β€œprominently” displayed in all state-owned buildings told an Oklahoma House of Representatives committee on Tuesday.

β€œOur government is based on the idea that our inalienable rights are granted to us by our creator,” said Rep. Jay Steagall, R-Yukon. β€œIt is impossible to separate church from state. And our founders said we should not do that, actually.”

The proof, he said, was on the money in everyone’s pockets and purses.

Steagall was presenting House Bill 3817, by Speaker Charles McCall, R-Atoka, to the House Rules Committee. The bill specifies that the β€œplacement and size of (each) display shall be in keeping with the placement and size of the display of the national motto in the United States Capitol Visitor Center.”

That display is 4 feet high and 70 feet wide. It was installed about 10 years ago.

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According to reports, the push to display β€œIn God We Trust” on as many government buildings as possible is driven largely by WallBuilders, an evangelical group whose founder, Oral Roberts University graduate David Barton, argued that the religious liberties of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution apply only to Christians and possibly Jews and Muslims.

Historians say the founders disagreed widely on religion and government. Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the phrase to which Steagall referred, also coined the phrase β€œseparation of church and state” and was one of its staunchest supporters.

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Conservative Christians will jump so quickly to protect their constitutional right to bear arms, but will actively ignore the both constitutional separation of Church and State and the constitutional freedom of religion. Also ignoring that religion can’t be taught subjectively. cbsnews.com/news/trump-ba…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/cnpepper
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Effingham, Illinois local artist paints mural on school property. Includes cross now has to remove it. Separation of church and state? Should mention there is a giant 300 ft cross plainly visible from the stands.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/yagerbomb
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I was searching for a new doctor and read one bio that mentioned his belief in god, which immediately turned me off, so to speak. I know there is supposed to be a separation of church and state, but what about between church and medicine. What are your thoughts?
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Given that the South is much more religious than the rest of the US today, what were Confederate attitudes toward separation of church and state like? (2nd attempt)
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πŸ‘€︎ u/JJVMT
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The Supreme Court just agreed to hear a case that could nuke the separation of church and state – ThinkProgress thinkprogress.org/the-sup…
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Trump institutes a new law, with no regard for the separation of Church and State npr.org/sections/health-s…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/dorkphoenyx
πŸ“…︎ May 08 2019
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Separation of church and state
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πŸ‘€︎ u/PM_ME_YOUR_WIRING
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I wish that any time a politician tried to make an argument based on a religious viewpoint, it would come out as a speech about the importance of the separation of church and state
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πŸ‘€︎ u/MerlinGrandCaster
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Not enough people know what β€œseparation of church and state” really means.

It does not mean that politicians aren’t allowed to be influenced by their religious beliefs in their everyday lives.

but rather that no religious body (the church or otherwise) can hold a position of power in the government. That law was put in place BECAUSE priests and other clergy were holding political offices in addition to their religious ones.

Just because a politician mentions God or their religion, does not mean they are violating the separation of church and state.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/K1ngPCH
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Was there a particular event that made the Founding Father choose to make Freedom of Speech and separation of Church and State the First Amendment?

I know there were lots of secret societies around this period and I suspect it may have something to do with that, but if it's not please illuminate me

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πŸ“…︎ Oct 30 2018
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Lol what is separation of church and state?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/littlewandrer
πŸ“…︎ Feb 19 2020
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The Supreme Court just agreed to hear a case that could nuke the separation of church and state thinkprogress.org/the-sup…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/BadgerKomodo
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Jewish Democratic group: Trump's school prayer push is an attack on church-state separation; Trump's sudden push on prayer and "religious discrimination" is "transparent attempt to pander" to evangelicals salon.com/2020/01/16/jewi…
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Michele Bachmann: Hate Crimes Hotline Is A Violation Of The Separation Of Church And State rightwingwatch.org/post/m…
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Michigan governor blames GOP and β€˜separation of church and state’ on failure to ban megachurch gatherings rawstory.com/2020/03/mich…
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If the US is supposed to be built on separation of Church and state, why do so many rituals of government (e.g. the Inauguration) incorporate the Bible and prayer?
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How do abortion laws not violate separation of church and state?

A large majority of anti-choice activists stances toward the β€˜issue’ are motivated by religious beliefs. The actual laws that are use to impose abortion constraints of course do not have religious citations, but regardless, the main driver behind the laws themselves is because of a religious belief. How does this not violate the that the idea of government/society should not impose its beliefs upon others?

Edit: Thank you all.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/LosSoloLobos
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Church-State separation in the Philippines is very weak

Every government buildings always has a catholic decorations such as a baby jesus and a Virgin Mary. In Christmas, it's usually a nativity scene, and it's always life size.

Polygamy? You'll get arrested unless you're a muslim.

In every big elections, with the help of one religious organization, you have a big odds of winning with the right amount of money or political favors. They have the concept of 'Unity voting'; these voters will choose the candidates based on the list provided by church leaders.

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Abortion bans are a result of the crumbling of church-state separation chicagotribune.com/opinio…
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