Lack of New Songs Played Live implies Paul & Gene knew their discography was crap

Always found this kinda funny about KISS.

One of the fun parts of following Metallica is that throughout the course of a tour, the standard set features a heavy amount of new songs. For example, An October 24th, 2017 show from the middle of the Worldwired tour sees 7 of 18 songs from Hardwired to Self-Destruct.

KISS has been the polar opposite, almost ashamed of their new material.

The trend has dominated the band's live shows dating back to the late 70's. The four bonus songs from Alive II were never performed live during the "classic" era. The solo albums saw just 3/40 songs make it into the set, as Tossin & Turning was dropped after a handful of dates. Dynasty fared just as poorly at just 2 of 9 tracks. In a span of four years, KISS neglected more songs than some bands have written in their entire careers.

Animalize & Asylum brought this trend back. Both had just two songs from each album worked into their respective tour's regular set. In both circumstances, the opening track - the one fans heard first if they bought the album - were both rarities and played only a handful of times across 100+ date tours. Weird.

Hot in the Shade, probably the most egregious offender in their entire career. The album was advertised as Kiss's biggest ever - fifteen new songs! Paul and Gene only felt comfortable playing three of them live.

The band released "You Wanted the Best, You Got the Best" as a souvenir during their 96-97 reunion tour. The re-recorded tracks that started off the album - Room Service, Two Timer, Let Me Know - were never played on that tour or any subsequent reunion era tours. Take Me, the fourth re-recorded song, was in the set for a handful of dates in '96. All that effort to re-record songs they'd never actually play?

Psycho Circus, the alleged "comeback" album, saw just three songs in the set of eleven recorded. For the Monster tour, just 1.5 tracks (yes, a half-song!) made it into the set when they visited my city.

What's the point of this rambling? It makes me think P&G are fully aware of just how much utter crap they've recorded and were always destined to be a nostalgia band. Even in the 80's when they were doing quite well on MTV and enjoying a second wave of popularity thanks to glam rock, their setlists showed almost no faith in their new material which is uncharacteristic of any rock band. This is a pattern that continued across close to ten different tours.

This makes you wonder why they constantly felt the need to

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My rankings of Paul McCartney’s solo discography
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Listened to Michael's entire discography (still working on pre-Off The Wall)

His discography is SO strong! It spans so many genres, each album is a different energy, and he experimented/evolved so much yet it all souned so true to Michael. There's so so much more to MJ than his big hits - I found out.

Favorite Album: Off The Wall

Favorite Song: Baby Be Mine OR Rock With You

Top 15 songs:

  1. Baby Be Mine
  2. Rock With You
  3. Girlfriend
  4. Off The Wall
  5. Human Nature
  6. Leave Me Alone
  7. Another Part of Me
  8. Workin' Day & Night
  9. Tabloid Junkie
  10. Burn This Disco Down
  11. Don't Walk Away
  12. Break of Dawn
  13. Beat It
  14. Stranger in Moscow
  15. Give In to Me
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Cleaned up an older concept of mine - the alternate discography of the Beatles, from a world where Paul McCartney never had the idea for Sgt. Peppers
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Help!!!! I dropped my wd passport hardrive and lost all my shit.....I need all my under memphis music like lord infamous discography Paul and juice underground’s we never sleep vols og koopsta knicca tape and my no limit records discography plus all the Gucci mane ....
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My wall art of the best discography in the history of music!
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The (alternate) discography of the Beatles, from a world where Paul McCartney never had the idea for Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band, including their two reunion albums (1972's "Home Fires" and 1992's "Brainwashed")
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I Made A Paul Institute Discography Tracker Which Lists All The Releases From The Artists On PI! docs.google.com/spreadshe…
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What discographies should I discover if I love Tori Amos, Queen, and Paul McCartney/Wing/The Beatles?
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Paul Wall & the Jet
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Paul Henning on Twitter: Side note to Bucks signing Cousins is John Wall putting word out Bucks would be on his list should he be bought out. twitter.com/brewcitypaul/…
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Paul McCobb wall unit 1958
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Threw up a vinyl wall in my room to display some of my favorites. That top row will eventually be the full Flatbush discography
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FINALLY found the missing songs of Paul's pre-LANY discography that aren't even on youtube.
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[Paul Wall] In case the @HoustonRockets want me I’m available… Do I need to take a drug test? twitter.com/paulwallbaby/…
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[FOR SALE] - Miles Davis, Fiona Apple, Prince Paul, Tom Petty, Sufjan Stevens, The Strokes, MF Doom, Elliott Smith, David Bowie. Sparklehore Discography. Some bangers in this one.

Alright, kinda trimming down the collection still, a bunch of duplicates I would like to see go elsewhere. Shipping is $4 in the US. More for international obviously.

First to DM is first in line. I will get back to everyone as quickly as possible. PayPal Goods & Services only. Send a DM, or better yet try to 'Chat' with me... and send your PayPal email in it and I will invoice you right back. It's pretty smooth that way.

Any questions feel free to ask! Thanks for looking.

(EDIT: Shit, I forgot to list the Sparklehorse. DM me if you are interested tho. I'll post them in a day or two. )

[SOLD] $22 VG+ Miles Davis-Miles Smiles . 1980's RM & RE

Excellent and quiet copy. Clean. A little ring wear on the cover but not much honestly.

[SOLD] Sealed) Fiona Apple-Fetch The BoltCutters Barnes&Noble Limited Bronze, Sealed.

Brand New. Unopened. Bronze Version.

[SOLD] NM/VG+ Prince Paul- A Prince Among Thieves VMP

Spun once, yesterday. This one isn't really my thing. The outer sleeve that VMP sends stuff in was torn when I got it but the actual jacket and vinyl is perfect! It's a cool record, I'll just never listen to it again. I know I won't.

[SOLD] $23 NM/NM Tom Petty-Greatest Hits

Opened and never played. Dunno why I opened it up. I have his entire discography, I do not need this for only one song, Last Dance With Mary Jane... should go to someone that will enjoy it. In great condition.

[SOLD] $15 NM/NM David Bowie-The Rise and Fall Of Ziggy Stardust 2016 RM 180 gram

Sounds fantastic. Clean. Played maybe two or three times. I have a different version that I play more often. This one just sits there on the shelf.

[SOLD] NM/NM Elliott Smith- Elliott Smith 2012 RE 180g

Not sure why the value of this one has gone up in the last few months. It's hovering around $35-40 on discogs. This one is hardly played as well. Got the recent box set of this so no need for this one.

[SOLD] VG+/VG+ [Elliott Smith- XO 2008 RE 180g](https:

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WILLFUL NEGLECT - "1982-1984" (2003) ~ Complete discography by this great HC band from St. Paul, MN. Includes the 1982 S/T 12" ep, the 1983 "Justice For No One" 12" ep and six unreleased songs recorded in 1984. youtu.be/OIK34Z0MJKo
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'The Wall' is overrated in Pink Floyd's discography ...

As the title above says, I personally feel that the Pink Floyd album 'The Wall', is an overrated moment for them, particularly when considering their discography as a whole. Musically speaking, I feel that they took far bolder risks and had much grander instrumentation on a number of albums such as Animals, Wish You Were Here, Dark Side of the Moon, not to ignore many of their earlier albums, which vary in quality for me personally, but which also definitely showed a desire to experiment.

'The Wall' is conceptually very strong; I'm actually a fan of Roger Waters as a songwriter but I just find that more often than not, the concepts and themes present on 'The Wall' take centre stage and priority, leaving the music either making me want more from it, or not really panning out in a way I find particularly enjoyable or exciting to listen to.

Just my personal take, it's totally cool if you disagree or you love 'The Wall', just thought it would be cool to put up as a personal opinion.

Cheers :)

Ps: Maybe even a hotter take, but I personally prefer 'The Final Cut' by a long shot but maybe a topic for another time :)

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So we went from cringey Steven/Alina to major cringe Paul/Karine. Who's next for the tlc wall of shame?

Darcey? Singyn, Varya, don't bring Tiffany and ronald backπŸ™ˆ. I hope it's Angela πŸ˜†

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Since Tilman Fertitta proclaimed Chris Paul’s contract was β€œthe worst that he'd ever seen in business or sports,” Paul has had two All-Star, All-NBA seasons and is in the Finals. Meanwhile, Tilman’s Rockets will be paying John Wall $91M over the next two years.

Full quote from Tim McMahon:

> That trade was made because Tilman Fertitta wanted it made -- he thought Chris Paul's contract was the worst that he'd ever seen in business or sports -- and because James Harden wanted it made. James Harden, obviously there was a personality clash, this stuff has all been well documented and well reported. I still believe, and I wrote this last summer before things went down. I still believe that if necessary they could have managed that situation; I know a lot of people throughout the organization believe that.

To add insult to injury, John Wall’s contract runs an additional year past Chris’s, and while John will most likely pick up his player option for his final year, there is a real possibility Chris Paul will decline his option (once an unthinkable idea) to sign another lucrative extension/deal.

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Paul and June were interviewed by the Wall Street Journal about the bad movie podcast genre. Other podcasts in the genre get mentioned too. wsj.com/articles/so-bad-i…
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Mike Jones feat. Slim Thug and Paul Wall - Still Tippin' (Official Video) [Explicit] youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAYz…
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The Houston Rockets have released a rap song featuring local rappers Paul Wall, Bun B, and Slim Thug ahead of the 2021-22 season πŸ”₯πŸš€ (link) nba.com/rockets/lightthef…
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2 drummers, clear acrylic EGC, one weirdo hairdo and a wall of sound. Im just gonna leave this here cause the similarities are uncanny. These guys have been scratching my itch lately if you're looking for a way to dive into their massive discography i would reccomend bullhead as a start. youtu.be/jGX4G07nVB0
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December 25, 1963 - 18-year-old Paul Schultz was fatally shot attempting to cross the Berlin Wall. He managed to cross over to West Berlin, but succumbed to his injuries later that night. chronik-der-mauer.de/en/v…
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I think this will help your pain. Listen to the song β€œ band on the run β€œ- by paul McCartney … just the first few verses β€œstuck inside these 4 walls……”
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Paul Wall's feature on Drive Slow is incredibly underrated

Probably my favourite feature on any song, with Rick Ross in Devil in a New Dress coming in a very close second.

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Paul Jason Klein - Pre-LANY Full Discography (Remastered) youtu.be/3ySXOpK06xk
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St. Paul Port Authority to lead $12 million dock wall repair at downtown barge terminal msn.com/en-us/news/us/st-…
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[TMZ] John Wall spotted with Paul George last night youtube.com/watch?v=7tzgj…
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Paul wall putting on a good show tonight at Herman’s Hideaway v.redd.it/y1x8dg1v29681
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How would y'all rank Paul's overall solo discography?

I've always loved his contributions to the Beatles, but I never really heard anything he did outside of the band aside from one Wings album. I've been told he has some great solo records but some misfires. Is his solo discography worth hearing from beginning to end?

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I have never seen anoyone talk about these picture's in Tord's wall in The End Part 2. I can tell 3 of them are Tord, Paul and Patryk, but who is the 4th guy crossed out?
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Know Nothing here looking for input on price to list to MOVE Large (Paul Cadovius Royal??) FIXED mount (wood) wall system.7 large cabinets, 2 single drawer desk cabinets, desk fold down. 2 cabinets have damage to Pegs as pictured, otherwise in great shape. I believe Teak, age of unit unknown,. reddit.com/gallery/qoeu31
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Bun B, Slim Thug, Paul Wall #LightTheFuse (Official Video) youtu.be/SeKqKAj1CDA
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Should I listen to the rest of Pink Floyd’s discography if I liked Meddle, DSOTM, Wish you were here, Animals and The Wall
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Paul Wall talks about his love for Astros, friendship with Alex Bregman chron.com/sports/astros/a…
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After the death of Paul I, tragic rumours sparked that several days before his death, he saw blood on the walls of Mikhailovsky Castle. Minutes before his death, a great fleet of crows took wings of the castle roof. It’s also said that Paul is seen wandering around the palace holding a candle.
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What songs would be on Judy from Zootopia's iPod under Kanine West's Discography?
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Love my gear and thought I'd share my small collection: Ibanez Artwood AW300, Martin Stinger SBL-10 (not sure of the year), Fender Toronado 2002 MIM, Fender Stratocaster 2001 MIM. I really want a Gibson/Epiphone Les Paul to round it out but damn I love looking at this wall.
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Lil C, Paul Wall, Archie Lee & Lester Roy - Tha Other Day (2007) youtube.com/watch?v=ABD4y…
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