1/4/2022 Uruguay, Montevideo
Hello,
Could I replace regular lunges with fencing lunges in my workout?
Would fencing lunges work the same things as regular lunges? I'm not thinking of performing the fencing lunges explosively like in actual fencing, instead I would perform them at the same pace as regular lunges.
I'm not even a fencer, this lunge just comes more naturally to me. My goal is strength and hypertrophy.
I don't know If it's possible to link videos, so just look it up how to do a fencing lunge.
Kind regards,
TheGreatChongas
Would anyone happen to know the reasoning, other than tradition, that encourages the rear leg to be perpendicular during fencing to the fencers' line instead of slightly inwardly-rotated?
The rear leg in taekwondo (and probably karate) is usually at about 45 degrees in pretty much all stances except the more traditional 'back stance'. Even the lunged stance ('bow stance' is what wushu calls it) tends to have a rear foot rotated slightly internally of 90 degrees dead perpendicular to the fencers' line.
Would anyone care to share similar opinions on possible common misconceptions in fencing coaching, which are taught in order to promote good habits early on, but which could become limiting in the future?
Another weird thing I've noticed is how people say that when advancing or retreating, it's the front leg or back leg respectively that 'pulls' the body along. I could swear it's the other leg doing all the work.
Finally, the constantly bent en garde stance is rather difficult to keep up for a whole bout. Holding a deep horse-riding stance is not particularly common in a martial arts sparring scenario but is a fairly common fitness exercise, so I suppose the same goes for the exaggerated en garde stance during fencing drills?
I started longsword fencing back in the autumn. I'm enjoying it tremendously, especially the sparring. But man do I feel it in my knees the morning after practice. The joints, not the muscles. All those lunges really put on a lot of stress. I want to keep doing this for years. Any tips for what I should be doing to strengthen my knees? I imagine that strengthening the muscles around the joint would help . . . ?
I said, “That sounds like a big step.”
I am absolutely new to fencing, my first practice begins in just 2 days, and I'm super excited!
I am 21 and have struggled with borderline obesity for most my teenage life, and now that I lost 20kg, I was looking for a new sport to engage in. I thought fencing would be absolutely perfect. For the sparring aspect, competitive nature, and exercise it will inevitably give me.
So how do I improve my workouts in the gym to exercise specific body parts that are most important for fencing? Which parts are most important, and which exercises are best?
Ty in advance for the replies.
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I think it’s a big step forwards.
But I feel that would just be a big step backwards..
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Welcome to the world of Modern Olympic Fencing. A sport where two grown adults try to poke each other with electrified metal sticks. Or not do that, as we will see in this tale.
Background:
Modern Olympic Fencing is a sport that grew out of various swordfighting practices, specifically French short sword duelling. The modern sport has three weapons: Foil, sabre and épée (Here is a primer on the basics of fencing and the differences between the weapons). This drama is about épée. I hope it is enough to say that for various reasons, which I can get into in the comments, épée is the slowest of the three disciplines and arguably the most tactical. An épée bout is all about looking for openings and trying to goad your opponent into providing them; following from that counter-attacks can be very powerful.
There are individual competitions and team competitions. In a team competition, each team consists of 3 fencers (plus one substitute) and everyone fences every other fencer once. Each bout is to 3 minutes (used to be 4) or to the next multiple of 5. So the first bout is until one team has reached 5 points, then the next is until one team has reached 10 points (and not until the individual bout has reached 5 points), then to 15 and so on until 45. Sabreurs and foilists usually get to the points threshold way before the time-limit. Épée sees time run out more often.
The actual drama, part 1
Welcome to the World Fencing Championships 2001 in Nîmes, France. In the final of the men's team épée competition, Hungary faces Estonia. You can watch the entire affair in the linked video, but I will go through the relevant moments and explain what happened with timestamps.
The match starts of innocently enough with Kulcsár of Hungary and Kaaberma of Estonia fighting to a 4-3 for the Hungarians, ending after the time-limit of 4 minutes. Up next is Iván Kovács for Hungary and our main character for today: Meelis Loit of Estonia. They set-up on the piste, the referee calls "En garde. Prêt? Allez." and... ...[nothing happens](https://youtu.be/VKmuFru-dSk?t=507] (8:27). After about 5 seconds of hopping around out of distance, both fencers just drop the points of their weapons and stand around. For the next 4 minutes, Kovács remains entirely motionless, while Loit stays about 4 metres away, hops around, swings his weapon in wide circles and does stretches. After four minutes
... keep reading on reddit ➡Hi there, I've been fencing a long time. Usually when someone asks about improvement we talk about physical fitness, footwork, point control, footwork, one on one lessons with a good coach, footwork playing your game not the opponents and footwork. All very effective! What I'm interested in is the deeper game plans. For example my old coach talked a lot about the need to have some touches in your repertoire that run counter to your regular style. Like a counter attack and parry riposte enthusiast also practicing a running attack to throw in on occasion.
In the comments of my first fencing post about fencers who don’t want to fence, a few people suggested additional pointy stick drama. I think the most requested was “the eternal second” or “the longest second in Olympics history”. So here we are.
Background:
This post concerns Modern Olympic Fencing and – once again – the sub-discipline of épée fencing. Épée is one of the three weapons and for various rule-based reasons it is the slowest and arguably most tactical of the weapons. As described in the previous post, épée fencers sometimes have a bit of a problem actually attacking, as it can happen very easily that your opponent counter-attacks and wins the point. Therefore, épée is usually the lowest scoring of the weapons. Here is a good basic explainer video on fencing.
Because this drama includes a lot of specific rules discussions I have decided to just dive into the description of the drama and then explain the various rules and tactical considerations as they come up. I hope that approach makes this more of an engaging read.
Also, I’ll put this up top this time: Here is the video of the full bout and here is a video the Olympics themselves made about the incident in their “strangest moments” series that explains the drama quite well.
The set-up:
The occasion is the 2012 Olympic Games in London and the stage is the semi-final in the women’s individual épée competition. Squaring off are defending Olympic Champion Britta Heidemann of Germany and Shin A-Lam of Korea.
The fight will go for 3 periods of 3 minutes each or until one fencer scores 15 points. In épée a point is scored if you touch your opponent anywhere on their body with the tip of your weapon. If both fencers touch each other inside of 1/25th of a second (40 milliseconds) it’s called a double hit and both fencers get a point. There are also possible penalty points for rule infractions.
After nine minutes of very cagey fencing, the bout is tied at 5:5 with the last 3 points for both fencers coming from double hits. We are going to extra time.
*Extra time in fencing is sudden death. First point scored wins the match. To force the fencers to attack – because we already know how that can present a bit of a problem – at the start of extra-time the referee (in practi
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When I was training in the club last week, my teacher corrected my knee angle during lunges. My lunges are like the picture No. 2. The teacher told me that my knees should not exceed the toes. Doing so may easily cause knee injuries, but I think that during the competition In, if it is like the picture No. 1, it will reduce the distance of my lunges. I am 38 years old this year and I play Epee. Do I need to change the knee angle during my lunges?
I'm a beginner, only started fencing back in the autumn, as a 41 year-old. I'm enjoying it tremendously. But the day after a practice, man do I feel it in my knees. The joints, not the muscles. All those lunges put on a lot of stress. I'm in good trim, and used to running etc. But running never put strain on my knees like this. Any tips on training or exercises to do to build up strength and support around the joints?
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