The Concept of Iddah and Khalifa's Take on it

In Islam mourning the dead is restricted to a maximum of three days. Except for a wife to a husband which is 4 months and 10 days. This practice, in my opinion, is extremely misogynist and cruel to a woman. Just imagine how restrictive Islam is on these extremely emotional incidents, a woman who lost her kid is permitted to mourn for maximum only 3 days, while she's forced to mourn the death of her husband for more than 4 months.

Conveniently, no such restrictions are placed upon a man if his wife dies. He can get married on the same day and Islam has no problem with that. Often the argument is, "In those days, women waited just to make sure she wasn't pregnant". If that was the case then this practice has no place in 21st century. But this law is still enforced upon woman because the Quran (which is supposed to know pregnancy tests will be easily accessible in 21st century) chose to make it a law for all eternity.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad was asked about this and his answer was exactly what we'd hear from the modern Taliban spokesperson.

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"...nor does it grant any age-related exemption", there goes the pregnancy argument as women who can't get pregnant aren't exempted from this rule.

But Masroor goes on to explain widow can go to work only if her livelihood depended upon it but should not socialize with colleagues. Also, she can go to doctor (like that's something that needs to be said).

And here's a story... I can't understand why some people find such random nonsense narrations inspiring..

https://preview.redd.it/iya385acy1m71.png?width=755&format=png&auto=webp&s=7aaf51024a3db9459186e89d7e72a8a5506b82b4

She was just afraid that Allah will be displeased if she wouldn't apply scent on the fourth day of her brother's death.

Source: https://www.alhakam.org/answers-to-everyday-issues-part-xx-fridays-mourning-the-dead-women-at-hajj-missing-a-prayer-and-guidance-for-missionaries/

Interestingly, in the same article Masroor graciously allow women to travel alone these days because there are better facilities & safety now days.

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there are reasons for iddah (check coments)
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β€˜Iddah (i.e. waiting period) is illogical & unnecessary & oppressive & injustice against the women /r/exmuslim/comments/q84x…
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The *iddah*: The forgotten misogyny of Islam

A man in my circles gets a shock diagnosis of cancer. His continued life is uncertain. His wife is devastated. He's her everything, probably the only anchor that keeps her mental health issues at bay. Someone begins talking about how hard her life is going to be when he dies. But as hard as it's going to be, she absolutely "has to do the iddah," the four month, 10 day period a new widow must spend secluded in her home like some sort of animal who's owner died.

Knowing this woman, I suggest that doing the iddah wouldn't be good for her and that she should be exempted. She's generally an outgoing person who gets depressed when alone even without a loss to grieve. But no, "It's the law and Allah knows best for her."

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Iddah

So my father in law passed away recently ( glad he's not in pain anymore) and my mother in law is very old and is in need of constant health care. So the whole family decided she needs to move out and live with one of her children or with us. She pulled something that I didn't know about called Iddah. I just finished reading about and realized wtf. This is the most archaic shit I ever seen. I just can't believe they still follow this.

You know I believe in tranquility and respect other people believes but this one of many things of Islam that bothered me. For those who don't know Iddah is, this what pops up on Google.

"For a woman whose husband has died, the `iddah is four lunar months andΒ ten daysΒ after the death of their husbands, whether or not the marriage was consummated."

There is no exception and off course men on YouTube trying to explain how women should act. I'm over here just dumbfounded by this.

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The Iddah period of a widow?

The time a woman has to wait before remarrying after her husbands death is, according to the Quran, 4 lunar months and 10 days.

Is this to ensure that if the woman is pregnant, the child would be identified as from the previous father's lineage?

If so, we have modern methods of science to confirm this easily within a few weeks of pregnancy. Are women who choose this path exempt from the 4 months?

(just a question out of curiosity)

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Friend wants to be muslim

Hi So i myself have not been muslim or practised islam ever. My friend, shes half finnish and half albanian, lives in finland. And she wants to become muslim. The reason im typing this is because her reasons for this were ” i dont drink and i wear modest clothes”, like not that she belives in Allah but clothes and alcohol.. i have heard so many opinions on muslims and islam, and i’m kind of worried about her because of my past, im ex jehovas witness( a high controlled group). All i have told her is that look into it and don’t make haste desicions. Do you have any insight would this be a good or bad desicion on her behalf. Love from finland <3

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If you have the right to preach something, I have the right to preach against it, freedom of speech goes both ways, cry more.

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Divorcees - what did you do on the last day of your divorce/when you’re free?

This question goes out to both men and women - did you do anything to commemorate, celebrate or mourn the last day you were your ex’s spouse? (Whether this was the end of the legal divorce or end of an iddah period)

It can be sad, it can be happy but either way it’s a new beginning. While I think a lot of the divorce parties and whatnot are unnecessary, it also seems like a day of significance?

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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French fries weren’t cooked in France.

They were cooked in Greece.

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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I'm sick of you guys posting dumb wordplay in here for awards and upvotes.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

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My 4 year oldest favourit joke, which he very proudly memorized and told all his teachers.

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Just because it's a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

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I was almost upset that my coffee tasted like dirt today

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

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Iddah

Im having a hard time coming to terms with Iddah. I understand that it is a commandment from Allah (swt) and in cases such as death of the husband it makes sense as it can help the wife to cope with grief.

However in cases of divorce...I just can't see how this is beneficial to the woman? 3 months of not leaving your house at all? It feels like a punishment if im being honest. And I understand it's to avoid the confusion with pregnancy but I just don't see why a woman would be completely banned from leaving her house to do anything. Like I'm sure this could be very damaging to one's mental health. Please educate me.

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Iddah is so unreasonable and unrealistic

In case some of you guys don't know what that is, you can read about it here

So a man can get married after his wife dies right away and leave the house and live his life and whatnot, but a woman is expected to stay home 4 months and 10 days? How is this reasonable? What if the wife hated her husband? She shouldn't be expected to spend that much time over an asshole. Apologists love to claim that this religion is a feminist religion while something like this is in the religion.

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Is the "3 months wait for iddah" a scientific miracle?

Qur'an, 65:4:

> ΩˆΩŽΩ±Ω„Ω‘ΩŽΩ°Ω“Ω€Ω”ΩΩ‰ ΩŠΩŽΨ¦ΩΨ³Ω’Ω†ΩŽ Ω…ΩΩ†ΩŽ Ω±Ω„Ω’Ω…ΩŽΨ­ΩΩŠΨΆΩ مِن Ω†Ω‘ΩΨ³ΩŽΨ§Ω“Ψ¦ΩΩƒΩΩ…Ω’ Ψ₯ِنِ Ω±Ψ±Ω’ΨͺΩŽΨ¨Ω’Ψͺُمْ ΩΩŽΨΉΩΨ―Ω‘ΩŽΨͺΩΩ‡ΩΩ†Ω‘ΩŽ Ψ«ΩŽΩ„ΩŽΩ°Ψ«ΩŽΨ©Ω Ψ£ΩŽΨ΄Ω’Ω‡ΩΨ±Ω ΩˆΩŽΩ±Ω„Ω‘ΩŽΩ°Ω“Ω€Ω”ΩΩ‰ Ω„ΩŽΩ…Ω’ ΩŠΩŽΨ­ΩΨΆΩ’Ω†ΩŽ ۚ ΩˆΩŽΨ£ΩΩˆΫŸΩ„ΩŽΩ°Ψͺُ Ω±Ω„Ω’Ψ£ΩŽΨ­Ω’Ω…ΩŽΨ§Ω„Ω Ψ£ΩŽΨ¬ΩŽΩ„ΩΩ‡ΩΩ†Ω‘ΩŽ Ψ£ΩŽΩ† ΩŠΩŽΨΆΩŽΨΉΩ’Ω†ΩŽ Ψ­ΩŽΩ…Ω’Ω„ΩŽΩ‡ΩΩ†Ω‘ΩŽ ۚ ΩˆΩŽΩ…ΩŽΩ† يَΨͺΩ‘ΩŽΩ‚Ω Ω±Ω„Ω„Ω‘ΩŽΩ‡ΩŽ ΩŠΩŽΨ¬Ω’ΨΉΩŽΩ„ Ω„Ω‘ΩŽΩ‡ΩΫ₯ مِنْ Ψ£ΩŽΩ…Ω’Ψ±ΩΩ‡ΩΫ¦ ΩŠΩΨ³Ω’Ψ±Ω‹Ψ§

>And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.

I've been told that this verse is a scientific miracle as the period of time needed for a women to "evacuate" any potential source of sexual diseases is 3 months.

What do you think about it?

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Iddah or the waiting period after divorce

I'm sure most if not all are familiar how according to the quran women wait a period that ranges from 3 cycles/months up or 4 months and 10 days, however there is something odd and kind of doesn't make sense, if the women is pregnant and the divorce/passing occurs the day before she gives birth, her waiting period is till she gives birth and can consummate any future marriage after the postpartum period ends, so if the husband dies the waiting period is 4 months and 10 days, if the lady is pregnant it can be 9 months up or just 1 hour, the waiting period is useless and offers no benefit aside from determining the father of the child back then, why do Muslims still follow it? And why do some scholars still claim that this is great wisdom with great physical and psychological effects when in reality this waiting period is self-destruction, imagine a woman just lost her husband and she has to stay at home for 130 days straight.

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Few questions about Iddah (and verses about it)
  1. Is Iddah only necessary if the marriage has been consummated?

  2. If the marriage has not been consummated, is Iddah required then?

  3. Could the 65:4 verse that says "too young to menstruate" mean that those who have reached the age of puberty but have yet to get their first period? It's certainly possible a female who reached puberty at 12 year of age and then get her first period at 18, so could the verse be talking about those females, rather than those who are pre-pubescent?

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