Why do American evangelicals hate historic churches of the Catholic, Lutheran, and Episcopal denomination?

It’s weird, all these β€œJesus loves y’a” folks who complain about the decline of the west or the decline of traditional architecture seem to love gaudy contemporary architecture mega churches or churches with atypical styling. They don’t seem to care about the closure of historic churches (due to low attendance)

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ATF Offers $10,000 Reward in D.C. Fires | Arson Fires set in Historic St. John’s Episcopal Church and AFL-CIO Building during Weekend Demonstrations in D.C. atf.gov/news/pr/atf-offer…
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St. Louis church becomes first Episcopal parish included in national historic register for LGBTQ advocacy episcopalnewsservice.org/…
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This grid thing on the side of a historic church - it’s a clear plastic slide with a red cross marking the middle and a black and white grid behind it. About 7ft off the ground - Christ Episcopal Church in Alexandria, Va.
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Historic Falls Church Episcopal Celebrates 250 Years fcnp.com/2019/12/12/histo…
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Historic Falls Church Episcopal Celebrates 250 Years fcnp.com/2019/12/12/histo…
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Trinity Episcopal Church Named to National Register of Historic Places as First Missouri Site for Notable LGBTQIA+ History-#Boom Magazine|2020 boom.lgbt/index.php/news-…
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Can the Anglican understanding of the necessity of the Historic Episcopate be divorced from the un-churching of denominations without it?

This is something which pains me to think about because it feels like it just doesn't have a good answer.

Before I get into the details of my question of the Anglican ecclesiology of today, it is probably best I give a short explanation of how I understand the development of that ecclesiology. Note that I am not trying to give a comprehensive overview of Anglican ecclesiology, but only the development of the emphasis on the Historic Episcopate and episcopacy in general in Anglican ecclesiology; there have in all periods since the Reformation been discontents to this within Anglicanism, which have even at some points been the majority, but I'm not concerned with them for this question. I apologize for the length; if you are interested only in the question, skip all this and go to the bottom of the post.

So, to begin with the Reformation, the historic episcopacy is retained in the English church, but not in most Continental Protestant churches. However, this was very far from a church-dividing issue; Thomas Cranmer treated Reformed leaders on the continent as equals in religion if not greater due to his indebtedness to their thought, and sought their advice on countless matters. His highest aim was to convene a sort of Ecumenical Council of the Reformed Churches of England and the Continent, which due to various crises occurring throughout the Protestant churches could not come to pass. All this to me represents a dire aversion to de-churching the Continental Protestants who adopted Presbyterian or Congregationalist polities; in fact, their authority and equality to the English Church was assumed on the basis of their Reformed doctrine.

Like many issues, it was not until differing notions of polity became a religio-political matter in England itself that the conflict arose. This was the case for countless issues: take for instance, the divide between Hooper and Ridley on vestments. Hooper objected to vestments on the grounds of conscience, but Ridley, who won the day, cared less about the vestments than he did Hooper's submission to the King in religious matters, and it was through his appeals to the King's authority that he won the day. It was also so for the retention of episcopacy in England. Episcopacy, from the Elizabethan Settlement through the Civil War to the Restoration and Glorious Revolution, was consistently a matter of divine mandate as manifest in the monarch's authority.

However, starting with Richard Hooker, who maintained

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Scottish Episcopal Church permits gay marriage in historic vote christiantoday.com/articl…
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Reprieve for oldest historically black Episcopal university livingchurch.org/2018/12/…
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Did the Three-Self Patriotic Movement receive the Historic Episcopate from via Bishop K. H. Ting?

Given that one of the founders of the only legal Protestant church in the People's Republic of China was an Anglican bishop, K. H. Ting, and he was effectively in charge of the TSPM from his rehabilitation at the end of the Cultural Revolution in 1980 to his retirement in 1997. I have wondered if TSPM received the historic episcopate/apostolic succession through him. The question is, did he ordain ministers of oversight by the laying on of hands? The TSPM seems to be run by regional committees headed by "Presbyters" that effectively function as bishops, but how they are ordained I do not know, there seems to be no information in English. Anyway, obscure subject, but it's been a bee in my bonnet for quite some time.

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Historic Episcopal men and boys choir keeps welcoming tradition alive while performing near and far episcopalnewsservice.org/…
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Richmond’s historic Episcopal Church rejects anti-LGBTQ β€œVote Your Values” group gayrva.com/news-views/ric…
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Beyond Relevant: The Episcopal Church's Historically Black Colleges and Universities episcopaldigitalnetwork.c…
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St. Paul's Church, Baltimore, Maryland, 1903, commonly called Old St. Paul's Church is a historic Episcopal church located at 233 North Charles Street, founded in 1692 as the parish church for the "Patapsco Parish", one of the "original 30 parishes" of the old Church of England in colonial Maryland.
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McConnell: The only valid political speech is money

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##What is Georgia’s voting law?

The new Georgia voting law is large and complicated, containing both voting restrictions and expansions. What does it actually do?

Restrictions:

  • Shorter window to request absentee ballot: Shrinks the window from 180 days to 78 days before Election Day.
  • Later mailing of absentee ballots: Instead of sending ballots to voters 49 days in advance, counties can begin sending ballots to voters just 29 days before Election Day.
  • It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.
  • Requesting and returning a ballot now requires a "driver's license number, state ID number or ... a copy of acceptable voter ID." While this replaces signature matching, which was susceptible to subjectivity and bias, it creates a new problem: The inequities of who can obtain a drivers license or ID card and the difficulty in locating the correct number on such a card.
  • Ballot drop boxes are limited in each county to one per early-voting site, or one for every 100,000 voters in the county, whichever number is smaller. These all have to be in one location, indoors, at either a county election office or at an early-voting precinct location.
  • Shorter runoffs: Instead of three weeks of early voting in runoffs, there will only be a single Monday-Friday period.
  • Mobile voting centers are banned unless the governor declares an emergency warranted their use. Last year, Fulton County (Atlanta) had to R.V.s bringing polling site
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The Presence of the Mal’akhim: ball of light UFO/UAPs are active benevolent and malevolent inter-dimensional alien entities watching and manipulating the progression of mankind since the beginning of time. These enigmatic beings will perform major roles during the imminent Apocalypse, and beyond.

Various sightings of Mal'akhim entities manifesting around the world.

These phenomena are major examples of Mal'akhim activity on the Earth.

Global captures of Mal'akhim entities in their Merkabah light vehicles above Earth.

Mal'akhim entities near the surface, without materializing into their bodily forms.

Various recorded bodily manifestations of the fallen Mal'akhim reveal that these creatures usually take on a bipedal form when terrorizing human victim(s).

As it is with most paranormal encounters with strange and frightful beings, balls of light are always associated with the phenomena before, during, and after the encounter(s).

These beings can pass through walls/doors/objects to paralyze victims with fear and/or briefly abduct victims. Sometimes following this, victims experience what is called "missing time."

This is a phenomenon that stretches back all throughout human history - from the current day to the medieval period and beyond into ancient times thousands of years ago.

Graphic art depicts major experiences, and many stories were written down in the annals.

Examples of celestial Mal'akhim merkabah vehicles in historical art.

Below is an extraordinary list of sightings and encounters of the Mal'akhim recorded throughout human history extending back long before human powered flight. (pre-1900 A.D.)

25 August 1846, Saint-Apre, France

At 2:30 A.M. Dr. Moreau was returning from a visit to a patient's home by warm, calm weather when he found himself bathed in the light coming from a globe that seemed to open up, emitting hundreds of star-like objects. This was observed for three to four minutes, after which the display slowed down and the globe disappeared.

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St. Paul's Church, Baltimore, Maryland, 1903, commonly called Old St. Paul's Church is a historic Episcopal church located at 233 North Charles Street, founded in 1692 as the parish church for the "Patapsco Parish", one of the "original 30 parishes" of the old Church of England in colonial Maryland.
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Why are the 39 Articles binding in some provinces but not others in the Communion?

It makes me feel... weird knowing that clergy across the pond in CoE have to subscribe to them whereas in TEC they're nothing more than a historical document

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Living somewhere for a long long time

Portland landmarks--For Reddit?

The Oregonian had a list of Portland landmarks that are gone. Funny how if you are somewhere long enough you have a story related to almost everything. My ex, Elizabeth, said that was true. When we were driving around with out of town guests, she would say, "watch this," pointing to a house or building, or a tree, or billboard. One time just off Powell and Cesar Chavez, she pointed to a green nondescript house, "Like that one?" "oh right, I replied, "that is where I lost my virginity."

Their list of landmarks

Cornos food mart

Went to high school with the Cornos "credited" with its downfall. Known at Cleveland High school as the 'playboy" with a classic 1954 corvette

Rose's Deli

When we were starving college students we would buy this glazed doughnut that was the size of a push lawnmower tire. We'd go to Washington park and look at Mt Hood while carving the doughnut tire into pieces, feeling like the future was endless with possibilities

Janzen beach amusement park

Where I met up with Mary LaCase, my French girlfriend in high school. We had met up in an abandoned hotel in Rockaway at the Coast. The custodian let us stay there overnight and pretend we ran the hotel.

Nike town

Phil Knight went to my high school. He had twin sisters, friends of my one sister and my older one turned down a date with him. She went for the ex-marine, whose brother turned out to be a child abuser, spent 8 years in prison then when released into Brentwood Darlington neighborhood was stoned to death by neighbors

Greek Cusina Octopus

At least one of the family also went to my high school. He Once spotted me in an antiwar protest and wondered what had happened to me. I had turned to the dark side

The Bomber

Ah the many stories I could tell you about this place. Like time 2 cowboys threatened to put lipstick--because I had shoulder length hair-- on me until an even scarier guy with scar running length of check came to my defense, "shut the fuck up", to them and to me, "don't worry we will take care of them." Then on way out high school girl said, "so time to hit the road." Thinking I was cool. Didn't want to tell her I was just going back to my hovel that was in a gully not far from the bomber.

Multnomah Greyhound park.

Ok nothing there.

24-hour church of Elvis

Helped the owner set up her computer system

Portland gas and coke building.

This was a wonderful place to get drunk. Get a "w

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Took a walk through LI's historic St George's Episcopal church in Hempstead one sunny day and took some fascinating pictures... imgur.com/a/KMxQd#0
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Home of Pauli Murray, gender-nonconforming Episcopal priest, designated National Historic Landmark dukechronicle.com/article…
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Some Creatures are Meant Only For Destruction - Catra's Redemption Arc as a Refutation of Fundamentalist Christian Theology

Content note for discussions of suicide, eternal damnation, and all sorts of other shit that will trigger a lot of folks with religious trauma.

Before I get started I might as well explain where I’m coming from - unlike a lot of She-Ra fans, and a lot of queer people, I don’t have much religious trauma, or any, maybe (okay there were a number of years I was convinced I was going to hell, but that happens to everyone, right?). I was raised a liberal Christian by liberal Christian parents in the Episcopal Church, where most of my memories are overwhelmingly positive. Fuck, growing up in the 90’s, Chuch was probably the only place outside my home I didn’t have homophobia spewed at me. Because it was the 90’s and it was a fucking hellscape of bigotry where 5 year olds knew enough to taunt each other with homophobic slurs and the adults didn’t know enough to realize how fucked up that was. Anyway. This is my experience, but it is an atypical one, and I know it. Quite frankly I know that my experience of Christianity has very little at all to do with what most people experienced, or what people generally mean when they talk about Christianity as a cultural force in America today. So if you were raised Christian and you don’t recognize your theology here, congrats, neither do I, but these ideas and cultural forces are huge and powerful and dominant. And it’s this dominant Christian narrative that I’m referring to in this post. As well as, you know, a children’s cartoon about lesbian rainbow princesses. So here it goes. This is going to get batshit.

"All events whatsoever are governed by the secret counsel of God." - John Calvin

"I can never join Calvin in addressing his god. He was indeed an Atheist, which I can never be; or rather his religion was Daemonism. If ever man worshipped a false god, he did. The being described in his 5 points is not the god whom you and I acknowledge and adore, the Creator and benevolent and governor of the world, but a daemon of malignant spirit. It would be more pardonable to believe in no god at all, than to blaspheme him by the atrocious attributes of Calvin."

---Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823.

β€œWe’re all just a bunch of wooly guys” - Noelle Stevenson

This is a post triggered by a single scene, and a single line. It’s one of the most fucked-up scenes in She-Ra, toward the end of Save the Cat. Catra, turned into a puppet by Prime, struggles with her chip, desperately trying to gain control of her

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