Anti-suicide nets, an alternative solution to the inhuman working conditions in one of the biggest factories for apple(Foxconn) in Shenzhen, China.
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How much of western news about Chinese labor exploitation and sweatshops is true ? The foxconn/apple suicide net kind of news. Any resources to do further reading ?

I have looked up the steady wage/purchasing power increase and the private sector not really being private. I also saw that unions have stakes in all major industries.

But how much of the other side of the story of wage slavery and labour exploitation is true. How strong are labor laws compared to say the EU or india or the US.?

Could someone help me out with good resources/academic papers on this.

Thanks ส˜โ€ฟส˜

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the suicide rate was lower for the people at foxconn then it was for the general population

the shit that got me back when, when I learned about the recycling cities, and foxconn. learning about how little empathy people had, that workers had to have nets installed to stop committing suicide, and how little empathy some had regarding it, how it was funny, how technically, the suicide rate was lower for the people at foxconn then it was for the general population. so i was like ah shit, shit bad, me choose side. but then, it was determined by [blah] that this was the best way to "value life.

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Foxconn factory workers looking out through the suicide preventing nets
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Foxconn employees, makers of all things Xbox and Apple, threaten mass suicide over work conditions and pay theatlanticwire.com/technโ€ฆ
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My buddy toured the Foxconn facilities in China and sent me a pic of the suicide nets they have in the dorms
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300 Chinese Foxconn Workers 'Threaten Mass Suicide' At XBox Plant, Reports Claim huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012โ€ฆ
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First Automated Foxconn Machine Immediately Tries To Commit Suicide theonion.com/first-automaโ€ฆ
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Suicide factories? - "Using pretty conservative figures, the suicide rate at the Foxconn factories is around 1.75 out of 100,000, while nationwide it is closer to 22 out of 100,000 โ€“ more than ten times higher." economicpolicyjournal.comโ€ฆ
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Suicide nets in shenzenโ€™s foxconn?

Is this BS propaganda? If so, can you recommend some good reading on this?

Edit:I found this from wikipedia:

> "ABC News[31] and The Economist[32] both have done some simple comparisonโ€” although the number of workplace suicides at Foxconn is large in absolute terms, the suicide rate is actually lower when compared to the overall suicide rate of China[33] or the United States.[34] According to a 2011 Centre for Disease Control and Prevention report, the country has a high suicide rate with approximately 22.23 deaths per 100,000 persons.[35] In 2010, the worst year for workplace suicides at Foxconn with a total of 14 deaths, its employee count was a reported 930,000 people"

Kind of reminds me of these memes: https://github.com/Jaksuhn/essays/blob/master/In%20North%20Korea.md

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Why is Apple catching so much heat for suicides at Foxconn when it's well below Chinas national average? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxโ€ฆ
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Foxconn employees, makers of all things Xbox and Apple, threaten mass suicide over work conditions and pay theatlanticwire.com/technโ€ฆ
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They did WHAT to prevent suicides at Foxconn? [pic] boston.com/bigpicture/201โ€ฆ
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post thiseverywhere to OWN the Dengists foxconn suicide nets 1989 tiananmen square massacre 1945 social credit score 1869 productive forces 2013 revisionism 2256 xinjiang autonomous region 1563 uighur concentration camps 2019 great firewall 2063 falun gong persecution 911 organ harvesting operation
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Foxconn employees, makers of all things Xbox and Apple, threaten mass suicide over work conditions and pay theatlanticwire.com/technโ€ฆ
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Foxconn Claims it's Resolved its Worker Issues After Employees Threaten Suicide - The iPhones & Xboxes maker disputes the number of their employees who apparently hate their lives so much they threatened to kill themselves, saying it was 150 & not 300, as reported by China theatlanticwire.com/technโ€ฆ
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TIL: In January 2012, 150 employees of Foxconn, Taiwanese technology company and contract manufacturer for products including the iPhone, iPad and Playstation 4, threatened to commit mass suicide in protest of their working conditions en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fโ€ฆ
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You are NOT allowed to commit suicide: Workers in Chinese Foxconn factories forced to sign pledges dailymail.co.uk/news/artiโ€ฆ
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TIL of Sun Danyon, a 25 year old Foxconn employee who lost a prototype of the iPhone 4. After allegedly being beaten, searched, and detained by Foxconn security, he committed suicide by jumping from his apartment building. usatoday30.usatoday.com/nโ€ฆ
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Poems of a Foxconn worker who commited suicide

My favorite: >โ€œOn My Deathbedโ€

>I want to take another look at the ocean, behold the vastness of tears from half a lifetime

>I want to climb another mountain, try to call back the soul that Iโ€™ve lost

>I want to touch the sky, feel that blueness so light

>But I canโ€™t do any of this, so Iโ€™m leaving this world

>Everyone whoโ€™s heard of me

>Shouldnโ€™t be surprised at my leaving

>Even less should you sigh or grieve

>I was fine when I came, and fine when I left.

The rest are here

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Following the suicides of 12 employees, Foxconn raises pay by 30% (from $130 to $175 per month) and passes along rising wage costs to customers business.timesonline.co.uโ€ฆ
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Apple supplier Foxconn defends labor practices in wake of protest. Criticism of Foxconn started when a string of worker suicides at its facilities drew widespread attention. Labor protection groups uncovered labor abuses at the factories, including long working hours and the hiring of underage labor pcworld.com/article/29407โ€ฆ
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Why don't Foxconn employees quit, instead of committing suicide?
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Foxconn Suicide Nets
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TIL Foxconn,the Chinese company that makes Apple Products, now makes its workers sign a promise that their decedents will not sue if they commit suicide. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxโ€ฆ
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Foxconn, the Chinese maker of Apple's iPhone, faces fresh suicide fears as 14th worker dies telegraph.co.uk/finance/cโ€ฆ
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[Text] Poem written by Foxconn worker before he committed suicide โ€“ Xu Lizhi (1990-2014)

> ใ€Šไธ€้ข—่žบไธๆŽ‰ๅœจๅœฐไธŠใ€‹

> "A Screw Fell to the Ground" > > ไธ€้ข—่žบไธๆŽ‰ๅœจๅœฐไธŠ > > A screw fell to the ground > > ๅœจ่ฟ™ไธชๅŠ ็ญ็š„ๅคœๆ™š

> In this dark night of overtime > > ๅž‚็›ด้™่ฝ๏ผŒ่ฝป่ฝปไธ€ๅ“

> Plunging vertically, lightly clinking > > ไธไผšๅผ•่ตทไปปไฝ•ไบบ็š„ๆณจๆ„

> It wonโ€™t attract anyoneโ€™s attention > > ๅฐฑๅƒๅœจๆญคไน‹ๅ‰

> Just like last time > > ๆŸไธช็›ธๅŒ็š„ๅคœๆ™š

> On a night like this > > ๆœ‰ไธชไบบๆŽ‰ๅœจๅœฐไธŠ

> When someone plunged to the ground > > -- 9 January 2014

This hit me hard. More here.

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The haunting poetry of a Foxconn worker who commited suicide

https://libcom.org/blog/xulizhi-foxconn-suicide-poetry

The poem that moved me the most is the one below

ใ€Šๆœ€ๅŽ็š„ๅข“ๅœฐใ€‹ "The Last Graveyard"

ๆœบๅฐ็š„้ธฃๅซไนŸๆ‰“็€็žŒ็ก Even the machine is nodding off

ๅฏ†ๅฐ็š„่ฝฆ้—ด่ดฎ่—็–พ็—…็š„้“ Sealed workshops store diseased iron

่–ช่ต„้š่—ๅœจ็ช—ๅธ˜ๅŽ้ข Wages concealed behind curtains

ไปฟไผผๅนด่ฝปๆ‰“ๅทฅ่€…ๆทฑๅŸ‹ไบŽๅฟƒๅบ•็š„็ˆฑๆƒ… Like the love that young workers bury at the bottom of their hearts

ๆฒกๆœ‰ๆ—ถ้—ดๅผ€ๅฃ๏ผŒๆƒ…ๆ„Ÿๅพ’็•™็ฐๅฐ˜ With no time for expression, emotion crumbles into dust

ไป–ไปฌๆœ‰็€้“ๆ‰“็š„่ƒƒ They have stomachs forged of iron

็››ๆปกๆต“็จ ็š„็กซ้…ธ๏ผŒ็ก้…ธ Full of thick acid, sulfuric and nitric

ๅทฅไธšๅ‘ไป–ไปฌๆ”ถ็ผดๆฅไธๅŠๆตๅ‡บ็š„ๆณช Industry captures their tears before they have the chance to fall

ๆ—ถ่พฐ่ตฐ่ฟ‡๏ผŒไป–ไปฌๆธ…้†’ๅ…จๆ—  Time flows by, their heads lost in fog

ไบง้‡ๅŽ‹ไฝŽไบ†ๅนด้พ„๏ผŒ็–ผ็—›ๅœจๆ—ฅๅคœๅŠ ็ญ Output weighs down their age, pain works overtime day and night

่ฟ˜ๆœช่€ๅŽป็š„ๅคดๆ™•ๆฝœไผ็”Ÿๅ‘ฝ In their lives, dizziness before their time is latent

็šฎ่‚ค่ขซๆฒปๅ…ทๅผบ่ฟซ่คชๅŽป The jig forces the skin to peel

้กบๆ‰‹้•€ไธŠไธ€ๅฑ‚้“ๅˆ้‡‘ And while it's at it, plates on a layer of aluminum alloy

ๆœ‰ไบบ่ฟ˜ๅœจๅšๆŒ็€๏ผŒๆœ‰ไบบๅซ็—…็ฆปๅŽป Some still endure, while others are taken by illness

ๆˆ‘ๅœจไป–ไปฌไธญ้—ดๆ‰“็›น๏ผŒ็•™ๅฎˆ้’ๆ˜ฅ็š„ I am dozing between them, guarding

ๆœ€ๅŽไธ€ๅ—ๅข“ๅœฐ The last graveyard of our youth.

-- 21 December 2011

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Foxconn Workers Threaten Mass Suicide readwriteweb.com/archivesโ€ฆ
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Foxconn Chief's Unfortunate Animal-Worker Comparison - Though it's spinning the CEO's comparison of his workforce to zoo creatures as cultural mis-communication, it doesn't change the fact it treats workers like animals. The remark came after the firm was accused of pushing its workers to suicide. theatlanticwire.com/technโ€ฆ
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The worldโ€™s largest electronics manufacturer, Foxconn Technology Group, has a plan for ending the grisly run of worker suicides that have drawn it unwanted attention over the past two years: replace human workers with one million robots alternet.org/story/152270โ€ฆ
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From the company that made your iPad and thriteen employee suicides in the past year: Foxconn factory explodes killing two. bbc.co.uk/news/business-1โ€ฆ
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Hundreds of Foxconn employees threaten commit mass suicide to protest working conditions siliconrepublic.com/businโ€ฆ
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Report: iPhone Leak Interrogations Drive Foxconn Employee to Suicide gizmodo.com/5319275/reporโ€ฆ
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TIL the Suicide Rates per Capita in the infamous Foxconn factories that produce Iphones are lower than all 50 US states reddit.com/r/todayilearneโ€ฆ
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The anti-suicide nets they put outside the Foxconn factories are the only items involved with Apple products that won't get phased out when a new product is launched.
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Foxconn, the Chinese company that makes iPods and iPads, has had another employee suicide bringing them to total of 8 this year nytimes.com/2010/05/22/teโ€ฆ
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Foxconn blames employee suicides on 'personal problems' - boasts about 24hr robot factories independent.co.uk/life-stโ€ฆ
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A Graveyard of our Youth: Foxconn Suicides ultra-com.org/blog/four-yโ€ฆ
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Four suicide attempts in a month at Foxconn, the makers of the iPad. Even as the iPad breaks all sales records, something deeply disturbing is happening at Foxconn, the China-based company that manufactures the gadget for Apple. blogs.telegraph.co.uk/newโ€ฆ
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Foxconn Website Defaced After iPhone Assembly Plant Suicides cyberinsecure.com/foxconnโ€ฆ
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Dell, HP look into suicides at Foxconn China plant economictimes.indiatimes.โ€ฆ
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TIL that the suicide rate at Foxconn is lower than all 50 U.S. States. businessinsider.com/appleโ€ฆ
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