What aircraft can come between the Phantom and F-14 to match the Floggers?

Everyone has been asking for the F-14, and everyone has been arguing as to why it will and why it won't be a good idea. To put it simply, the F-14 will likely be better than them outright.

That raises the question, as to not bring us back into "One country dominates the other purely by a vehicle advantage", what aircraft could come before the F-14 to counter the MLD?

Could they actualise the F-111B to give America it's own swing-wing counter part? Is there yet ANOTHER Phantom that could follow suite of all the others and just be "Better than the rest" of them? Or are we doomed for America 11.0 to tank until we get F-14s vs Mig-29s/31s or whatever is the Russian familier? Not even counting all of the other nations and they're respective aircraft.

I'm hoping they go for the "one fell swoop" technique and give each respection nation (Or those who have an appropriate aircraft) an "F-14" counterpart, so that we are *mostly* even across the top... buuuuut, I won't get my hopes up.

EDIT: Thanks to reddit for not actually notifying me on ANY of the responses, but I like the discussion, some agreed on planes there - F-16 looks sexy af, so I'ma agree with that one.

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Ser flogger es como ser un rockstar v.redd.it/mutvxzzsg5181
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My MiG-23MLD Flogger-K β€œ58 White” in 1:48 scale from Trumpeter Kit reddit.com/gallery/rwsuxf
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How to practice with a flogger?

I'm super excited to have got my first flogger today. It's gorgeous, it's latex (does the smell of latex make anyone else, like, erotically catatonic?) it makes gorgeous sounds and is meant to be good for beginners. All I need now is to practice before my sub arrives for a visit next week.

Question is -- how?

I've tried my aim on a pillow (they aren't as hard to aim as I thought,) I've watched a couple youtube videos on Do's and Don't's, I've tried it a bit on my bare things by dangling it from above (though that doesn't do a great job of replicating the action, it gave me a little idea for feel.) Is there anything else I can do? Shall I just keep practicing on a pillow each day until she arrives?

I know I won't be perfect enough to launch into a full scene immediately, but I would like to use it as part of a simple impact scene next week. Is there anything you guys would reccomend?

Maybe we should have some out of scene time to just play around with the sensations so I can practice on her without the full pressure of a scene? I know that I will in part be using her as practice, but I want a certain level of confidence before I do that.

UPDATE: I practised every day possible on a heavy buckwheat pillow on my bed, and on a heavy woolen coat hung up on a rack until she arrived. I practised with both my dominant and non-dominant hand. My non-dominant hand definitely isn't as strong, so at the moment I use it for weaker hits.

I did a calibration session (rating hits from 1-10 with my sub and it felt just as sexy as a scene. Afterwards we debriefed and she said that the standing positions felt like stress positions (something to look into, as she was stood in the middle of a room rather than against a surface until I had her on all fours on the bed.) Aside from that she said she felt like I was very technically knowledgeable which felt like a huge compliment. I watched multiple videos, took all the advice from comments here, and payed close attention to her physical as well as verbal responses. She was blindfolded which helped my confidence, and her concentration. Yes, there were a few dud hits that maybe missed or didn't land as hard as I was aiming for, but I improvised and changed tack to some softer hits for a while before building back up.

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who commented because it definitely improved both of our initial experiences with the flogger.

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Dear the folks of NonCredlibleDefense, how would you modernized these Floggers. (MiG-23 & MiG-27) reddit.com/gallery/qvqbes
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Northern lights flogger - inspired by another post on this sub
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Floggers and impact devices

Hello,

Let me start off that I have cleared the question in advance.

I have a few questions that use floggers and impact devices. I was wondering about if people would find it convenient if you could detach the handle and use it on another flogger head.

Q1) For people that have floggers do you have a favorite handle?

Q2) Would having the ability to change handles something that would interest you and could you tell me why?

Q3) Would you like to turn your normal flogger into a finger flogger then back to a normal flogger?

Thanks in advance and any feedback is appreciated.

I talked with and the questions were approved by TeaAitch

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some floggers I made in the past few days reddit.com/gallery/s2opy2
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Pink and purple paracord flogger etsy.com/nl/listing/11303…
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Who else forgot the flogger is on Revelations
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Iraqi and Libyan Mig-23's with custom aerial refueling probes, a feature never installed in floggers and only used by those 2 countries [album] reddit.com/gallery/r6qk0p
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After almost a year of not making anything, finally finished a batch of floggers! Just a few examples from the lot... reddit.com/gallery/r9wjhf
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The Ultimate Flogger | MiG-23MLD youtube.com/watch?v=EvzP_…
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The slowly declining title… Congratulations to Felix Kjellberg, Youtube God, King of Bros, Can Gloria Borger do this?, Mr. Besognin, Father to Jorgen and Sven, Youtuber, Minecrafter, Merch Flogger, Love Mukbang! reddit.com/gallery/rqejl9
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Having my feet tortured with a riding crop while chained to the wall. Shooting this was super fun. Maybe a flogger next?
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BDSM Flogger. Cat O'seven Tail Leather Flogger Cat | Etsy etsy.com/listing/11355713…
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USAF F-15C pilot who became TOPGUN instructor explains how he helped the Navy’s Fighter Weapons School to develop tactics to counter the MiG-23 Flogger theaviationgeekclub.com/u…
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MIG 23ML Flogger. 1/32 scale this baby has over 700 pieces. reddit.com/gallery/r21qwv
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Anyone have experience or knowledge about bringing ropes and/or a flogger thru TSA/Airport Security?

I don't have an issue with the topic of it - i.e. any sort of shame, but damn if i don't want ropes or the flogger confiscated.

My wife has plenty of experience going through with her various vibrators, dildos and whatnot, but a flogger is well outside that category.

I was planning to go with carry-on only.... I guess I could check a bag if i need to.

Thoughts? experience?

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These planes aren’t meta so lets give them absurdly op missiles because the Floggers got R60Ms!!! /s reddit.com/gallery/ppvlks
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Look out world, started making flogger handles. I developed my own way to have flogger heads, leather straps, dragon tails and more to attach to any of my handles. Was using baseball bats and mercy bats and will continue, in addition I will turn my own 😁😈😁 reddit.com/gallery/rf3xo6
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Cross flogger for penance time lol
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Seeking shop reccs on buying flogger for a beginner

I've been searching this subreddit ect and shops for a while, but having a tougher time finding something that's specifically tailored to what I was hoping to get. Thought I should ask because I also want to make sure I'm selecting from a shop that's reputable and safe. A few main points are:

*Not too many tails. I know the cat-o-nine-tails style whips don't have a lot, but hoped for something with thinner tails instead of the thicker, braided ones they usually have.

*Knots at the end of the tails are okay, but I don't want ones that have multiple knots/barbs throughout.

*More sting and less thud.

*Edit: forgot to mention but I also wanted something smaller, with tails being 10 inches or under. It seems even harder to find any that are small.

Thanks in advance if anyone has recommendations.

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MiG-23 flogger with brrrt v.redd.it/z82ets0k03o71
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This MiG-23 Flogger, at the time, was owned by a gentleman in Delaware who also owned a MiG-21, an L-29, and an L-39. The MiG-23 here has since been sold. youtube.com/watch?v=sR8Mx…
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This MiG-23 Flogger, at the time, was owned by a gentleman in Delaware who also owned a MiG-21, an L-29, and an L-39. The MiG-23 here has since been sold. To my knowledge this is the one and only time he flew it at an airshow when he owned it. youtube.com/watch?v=sR8Mx…
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Now that we've got a late-model MiG-23, how about Angolan roundels or a skin to represent one of the more odd deployments of the Flogger?
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The Flogger ballpoint pen on paper 50x30cm. Work of last year @dscordia for more.
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Soviet Pilot who test flew captured F-5 against MiG-21, MiG-23 explains why the Tiger beat the Fishbed, Flogger in every engagement theaviationgeekclub.com/s…
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Up to eight Cold War-Era MiG-23 Flogger fighter jets to be restored for flight in the US theaviationgeekclub.com/u…
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The Flogger ballpoint pen on paper 50x30cm. Work of last year @dscordia for more.
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