Title says it all
We hereby humbly request support in the war from our allies in Athens. This war is another threat by the Egyptian usurpers, that Athens has a duty to help fight. (Sorry for short post, on mobile?
>The Romans, who in the war with Hannibal had the misfortune to be taken captives, were sold about here and there, and dispersed into slavery; twelve hundred in number were at that time in Greece. The reverse of their fortune always rendered them objects of compassion; but more particularly, as well might be, when they now met, some with their sons, some with their brothers, others with their acquaintance; slaves with their free, and captives with their victorious countrymen.
>Titus, though deeply concerned on their behalf, yet took none of them from their masters by constraint. But the Achaeans, redeeming them at five pounds a man, brought them all together into one place, and made a present of them to him, as he was just going on ship-board, so that he now sailed away with the fullest satisfaction; his generous actions having procured him as generous returns, worthy a brave man and a lover of his country. This seemed the most glorious part of all his succeeding triumph; for these redeemed Romans (as it is the custom for slaves upon their manumission, to shave their heads and wear felt hats) followed in that habit in the procession.
Source:
Plutarch, John Dryden, and Arthur Hugh Clough. " Flamininus." Plutarch's Lives. New York: Modern Library, 2001. 510. Print.
Further Reading:
Second Punic War / Hannibalic War / War Against Hannibal
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it kinda blows my mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonies_in_antiquity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_colonisation
it seems like the Canaanites (which the Greeks called Phoenicians) colonized most of the southern Med, whereas (soon after) the Greeks followed & colonized most of the northern Med + the entire Black Sea.
And to think, this was way before the Achaemenid Empire was even founded (550BC).
Greek history is so cool!
disclaimer: i'm not a greek, unfortunately.
WHY THE FUCK DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT DIOMEDES SON OF TYDEUS?!?! This certified Bad Ass Mother fucker, outplays Odysseus, (after he and Odysseus have their own buddy cop show peppered through the entirety fo the war) is one of the only Acheans to actually make I back home, and oh yeah, DUDE Disembowls Ares, ya know the personification of war and combat. And he gets away with it unscathed( in the long run).
Anyway idk why in a story about 3500 years old I'm only finding out about this guy recently, can some one explain why love heard of people like Nestor or Ajax but not Diomedes?
Basically most wanted hero from other Greek tribes (Dorians, Ionians and Aeolians).
Rhesus’ Roster
A Total War Saga: TROY – Rhesus & Memnon DLC introduces Rhesus, the Mighty Thracian king, determined to unite the fierce mountain tribes of the forested valleys of Thrace. The Thracians are known for their war-like culture and are famous for their mighty chariots. Hungry for conquest, these armies are charging into battle and eager to repel the Achaeans in aid of Troy.
Rhesus of Thrace is a faction that relies on strong early engagements and decisive charges. His units are predominantly without shields; however, they have good chargers, good armour-piercing and excellent morale. He has a strong shock infantry lineup and a strong chariot presence.
His units aren’t the fastest, but he has a variety of new unit abilities that help him compensate:
- Furious charge – an ability that applies flanking penalties to the enemy even when charged head-on
- Titanismos – a debuff war cry that lowers enemy Melee Defence and Attack
- Last Stand – an ability that improves defense of the unit and makes it go berserk when it has low health
- Barbed Whips – an ability that temporarily improves a chariot’s speed at the cost of its health
They have many strengths in battle, including:
- Very hard-hitting shock infantry
- A variety of mid to late game debuffs to enemy effectiveness
- Excellent variety of chariots, including a super-heavy chariot, suitable for prolonged engagements
- Excellent quality first tier "Highland" units
- Excellent morale and health values
Some of their weaknesses are:
- Poor long range missile capabilities – no slingers and poor archers
- Poor selection of shielded units – the entire roster is very susceptible to missile fire
https://preview.redd.it/2083kvbb8p481.jpg?width=1803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8774eb6c481f3624f3140392e2b90e8594458def
Melee Units
Plainsmen
These units are very lightly armoured with decent melee defence and morale but appalling melee attack and damage. The job of these units in the early game is to occupy the attention of the enemies until the quality or quantity of the player's other units beats him.
Thracian Spearmen
These units are the backbone of the standard Thracian army. They have good health, armour and melee defence, also excellent morale.
Thracian Guards
These units are an upgrade on the Thracian Spearmen unit. They have excellent armour and melee defence, but very poor offensive stats and speed. Their morale is the same as the Thracian Spearmen.
... keep reading on reddit ➡I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.
Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.
Over three centuries have passed since the gods fell asleep. Indeed, centuries are the norm for divine weddings. My own wedding was the exception: it was grand, but brief, much like the marriage it celebrated, the life of the child produced by that marriage, and the whole of the civilization in which I lived. I remember the first time I saw the mortal who the gods had pledged me to. Part of me wanted to leap into those perfectly sculpted limbs that had slain centaurs, and run my fingers through his hair which gleamed like brass. The rest of me held that part back because I knew that those limbs would shrivel with age and that hair would fade to gray. I could bring myself to say only one word to him: “No.” I pushed off the ground and a split second later, I was a bird. His hand snatched me from midair as swiftly as a pouncing cat. While I plied my wings in vain, he sized me up with calm, contemplative eyes. Then he let go. His piety would not allow him to take a goddess hostage unless the gods bid him.
Bid him they did. I followed a river back to the mountain where the mortal liked to visit Chiron, his old teacher. My intention, or so I told myself, was to offer another boon in place of my love. As soon as I laid eyes on him again, visions engulfed me. I saw a figure which could have been him, or perhaps myself. It was one hundred years in the future, and still the figure looked healthy and proud. It sat serenely on its throne, purple robes draped over its body and laugh lines marking its face. I focused on the figure, hoping for some clue as to what the future would hold, and it changed. Now it was young. It lay face down on a golden shield, stuck like a pincushion with arrows from neck to heel. Its blood and hair, both equally vibrant, flowed into the dirt. A familiar-sounding voice which I couldn’t quite place groaned for water, for a comrade, for any solace as it died alone. The vision began to fade and the present swam into focus. I was trapped in a net made of silvery mesh woven so tightly that it could hardly be seen through. Peleus, the mortal, had thrown it over me.
The facts were clear as ice. This net had been created by the gods of civilization, and therefore my magic had no power over it. If the gods had seen fit to give Peleus this net, they doubtless also ordered him to seize me by force and therefore I could not appeal
... keep reading on reddit ➡Thersites is a character that beloved by modern readers, because he basically calls out Agamemnon, Achilles and the rest of Achaean aristocracy for being selfish by dragging a war too long, and causing their own people immense suffering, while the elite class was getting richer. He represents the voice of the average person, and people today identify with the darkhorse or the David rising against the Goliath.
Unfortunately, Homer’s political views are pro-aristocracy, so calling the aristocracy out in behalf of average people makes you stupid in his eyes. Before Thersites spoke against the elite for causing suffering, Homer describes him in great detail how ugly he is, because that absolutely matters, and to make it clear he also considers his views stupid, he has Chad Odysseus beating him up for this. With this, the Iliad explains people that democracy is wrong, listen to your leaders and stop complaining, they know what’s best for you.
Do your worst!
I'm surprised it hasn't decade.
I know Troy doesn't get talked about around here much anymore, but playing the new DLC recently got me thinking about a couple issues I had with the Trojan side of the campaign. I don't entirely like how the Trojan heroes all have victory conditions that involve them just doing the same thing that the Achaean heroes have to do but in reverse - invading Greek shores and eliminating the core factions. It just seems a little unrealistic and runs counter to the whole point of the Trojan side which is defending Troy.
Imo, I think some of the Trojan heroes - namely Hector - should've had Homeric victory conditions more rooted in defense rather than offense. Rather than invading Achaean shores to eliminate factions, they should have to contend with said factions invading them, as well as additional invasion armies spawning on Trojan shores that need to be fought off, similarly to Viking invasions in Britannia or chaos invasions in WH. And this all culminates in a final quest battle to defend the city of Troy itself.
And if players don't want to do the defensive style campaign for the Trojan heroes, they can just opt for the Total War victory option instead, which IS more focused on conquest.
For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.
I said "hey look, an escaPEA"
No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!
Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂
It really does, I swear!
14/11/21
κῦδος (OP: today’s word vanished for around 2,500 years (not being used in Attic Greek), materializing again amidst 19th-century, British universities as schoolboy slang, before officially attaining status in dictionaries in 1920, possessing the identical Homeric definition akin to something like admiration for greatness. There are two key terms associated, but not exclusively, with heroic excellence: κλέος and κῦδος. The latter, as noted, is an epic term, denoting one’s superiority, often explicitly, and almost always implicitly god-given (as Aeschylus, Persians, States: ὡς γὰρ θεὸς ἔδωκε κῦδος Ἕλλησιν μάχης) Seen in competitive contexts, primarily war and sport, κῦδος is a socially-appreciated term. Yet κῦδος is not a permanent attribute like κλέος: one cannot rest on the laurels of κῦδος. The attribute may be withheld or withdrawn by the gods. One of the most touching donations of the prestige is in Book 24 of the Iliad whereby Zeus promises to endow Achilleus with τόδε κῦδος - ἐγὼ τόδε κῦδος Ἀχιλλῆϊ προτιάπτω - for releasing Hektor’s corpse and showing Priam pity and compassion. I find two points intriguing about the short passage (beginning at line 110, Book 24). The first is the connotations of προτιάπτω being fasten, bind or attach. κῦδος, then, is bound to a mortal, and unfastened at the will or wish of a god. The second point (and I reject here the recent anthropological readings of the epic, the over-emphasis of the material ransom brought along with Priam, which skews the ending of the poem) is through Achilleus’ humility in his treatment of Priam - χειρὸς ἀπώσατο ἦκα γέροντα (he gently took the old man by the hand) and Ἀχιλλεὺς κλαῖεν ἑὸν πατέρ᾽ (Achilleus wept for his own father [being reminded of Pelleus by Priam]) - so, it is through Achilleus’ humility and reserve for Priam, in Achilleus’ own down-to-earth acts of lamenting, his acts of kindness, ultimately, Achilleus being human, that he is transcended by Zeus through κῦδος. Especially important as it is not the ultimate hero’s display of great valour in a difficult battle that awards him κῦδος, but his natural human qualities. The epic is just as much about sorrow as it is μῆνις.)
I. glory, renown, esp. in war - Homer, Iliad (16.84) ὡς ἄν μοι τιμὴν μεγάλην καὶ κῦδος ἄρηαι/ πρὸς πάντων Δαναῶν - win me great recompense and glory at the hands of all the Danaans (17.251) *ἐ
... keep reading on reddit ➡They’re on standbi
So, update on my Paris campaign (technically a different campaign because I had to restart) and this campaign is STRESSFUL, but also lotsa fun. Unlike Hector, which to me felt like I could play more aggressive because the Dannans didn’t IMMEDIATELY hate me, Paris feels like you’re constantly under pressure from all sides, and it’s providing a challenge that I really wasn’t expecting. I’m having to play like a sneaky bastard, with temporary alliances and barters, I’m even considering invading hector despite the fallout that would come out of it. Meanwhile his roster reflects that, because it’s focus on archers pushes you to draw the enemy into ambushes where you can get volleys into their flanks and just delete enemy units. So personally I think this is my favorite campaign out of the bunch, I’ve played so far, how about you guys? What’s your favorite campaign so far?
Pilot on me!!
Nothing, he was gladiator.
Jeffrey P. Emanuel from Harvard University thinks so.
To start with, the sea peoples were a purported confederacy of naval raiders who wreaked havoc in the Mediterranean around the time of the bronze age collapse that saw the major civilisations of the bronze age Mediterranean crumble. Many historians assume that the sea peoples had a role to play in said collapse, they mostly differ in thought on how large of a role they actually played.
Today we have inscriptions from Amarna letters(Egypt), Hittite records, Ugaritic records, linear B inscriptions (Mycenaean Greece), Cyprus(Alashiya) and Medinet Habu mortuary Temple in Egypt- a collection of contemporary sources that mention a growing problem of naval raiders, seemingly affecting all of the major powers at the time.
The question still remains who these sea peoples, purportedly from diverse backgrounds, actually were, with hundreds upon hundreds of theories having been formed over the years. Emanuel concerns himself with the possible historical inspiration of the sea peoples: movements for Homer's Odyssey.
Emanuel writes below
>Odysseus’ declaration that he led nine successful maritime raids prior to the Trojan War; his description of a similar, though ill–fated, assault on Egypt; and his claim not only of having been spared in the wake of the Egyptian raid, but of spending a subsequent seven years in the land of the pharaohs, during which he gathered great wealth.
>Odysseus’ fictive experience is remarkably similar to the experience of one specific member of the ‘Sea Peoples’ groups best known from 19th and 20th dynasty Egyptian records.
Above he refers to the Sherden.
Passage from the Odyssey.
>"For before the sons of the Achaeans set foot on the land of Troy, I had nine times led warriors and swift-faring ships against foreign folk, and great spoil had ever fallen to my hands. Of this I would choose what pleased my mind, and much I afterwards obtained by lot."
We have ancient dna from a Philistine buried in Ashkelon. Said individual plotted closest to the Myceanean Greeks. 3 other late early iron age samples plotted closest to bronze age Anatolia. Is there any reason to think that Homer's Achaeans (Myceanean Greeks) were NOT prominent among the sea peoples? Among other groups, of course. Ancient DNA and archeological evidence from Philistia point to an influx of migrants from mixed Aegean/Anatolian origin.
>On reliefs, Sherden are shown carrying round shi
... keep reading on reddit ➡Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.
This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.
If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.
Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.
What are the war crimes and other really reprehensible things that the Galactic Republic and/or the Jedi did during the Clone Wars, those that made this conflict a really grey vs grey conflict outside of Darth Sidious and Dooku's manipulations, rather than a good vs evil war as many in the Jedi and Republic ranks believed ?
When I got home, they were still there.
What did 0 say to 8 ?
" Nice Belt "
So What did 3 say to 8 ?
" Hey, you two stop making out "
Because she wanted to see the task manager.
I won't be doing that today!
