I am one of those people who was concerned about the AWD system the CT would use the brakes to control slip with it's AWD system. While this is somewhat effective, it's really not ideal for an off road situation. Here's to hoping that this new system can give us some solid off road performance!
Disclaimer: This is pure speculation.
Over the past day, several publications have posted articles about the refreshed Arteon. While the car is just now coming to the United States, it has been on sale in Europe for a few years. The refreshed model will introduce a R variant that will be European only.
There are two very interesting things about the Arteon R. The first which is not surprising and not terribly interesting on its own is that VW decided to use a 2.0L turbo four cylinder that is almost certainly an evolution of the EA888, rather than a six cylinder motor which was initially rumored.
The second is the introduction of the R-Performance Torque Vectoring system. It was hard to find information about this system but the few details that are out there describe a system that is identical in function to the twin clutch pack based system found in the Focus RS. A clutch pack determines the amount of power going to the rear, while a second will shuffle the power side-to-side. GKN markets this system as 'Twinster' and GM has also utilized a similar setup on a few of their recent cars.
It seems highly likely that the Arteon R is previewing the next generation Golf R and that VW is getting tired of being midpack with regards to vehicle dynamics.
So Porsche Torque Vectoring (brake vectoring) brakes the rear inside wheel. Subaru's torque vectoring brakes the inside front wheel. Why not have cars do both the front and back?
Yes, Porsche's non-Carrera 4 models are RWD and the Subaru's are understeer limited so the axle of choice makes sense for each. But why not do both axles? The brake vectoring works off the ABS system. One would think this would be low cost to implement.
Also, with fancy electronic difs now available, why are high end manufacturers still relying on the brakes to distribute torque? Seems like a backwards way of going about it.
I drive Subaru Legacy and I have always wondered if torque vectoring is noticable in day to day driving? I've only noticed it during curved ramps on highways.
How does it even work aside from braking front wheels independently? Does it put strain on chassis due to torsional stress? Does it counter forces to avoid roll-over?
I would love to see this variant come out one day. I also hope this has full plaid capabilities, such as the Roadster or Model S Plaid. Imagine 0-60 in under 2.5s in a portable house. That's insane. I would also love to see Cybertruck make it's way to the nurburgring. Imagine that thing battling the green hell. I imagine Elon has some crazy projects in store for Cybertruck. I can't wait.
The highest praise I’ve heard from journalists is that it feels like an LSD or an ELSD, and some journalists feel its demonstrably worse in feel and performance.
To preempt: “because they’ve concluded through their testing that it’s faster,” is a response I’ve too thought of.
In race cars, would rear wheel drive torque vectoring help a race car at all? Or would the additional weight slow the car down in the corners. There must be a reason GT3 cars use LSDs.
Additionally, would a GT3 car outdo a the equivalent road version in slow corners if the road car had torque vectoring, and the GT3 car an LSD?
I have a 2014 Veloster R-Spec, which comes with Hyundai's take on brake-actuated torque vectoring. I also live in New England, which comes with a lot of snow.
The car does seem to understeer a little less than I expect when lightly accelerating through a snowy corner, but I see no change in its behavior compared to other conventional FWD cars when trying to get unstuck in a forward or reverse gear: The front right wheel spins mightily, and the front left just hangs out.
Should the torque vectoring be giving me a minor "LSD" effect when accelerating from a stop, or is it just an anti-understeer helper?
Do the CDN trims have lock mode and torque vectoring? Salesperson said no and I believe I read somewhere in this forum no but this is right from the Kia.ca website:
ADAPTIVE HANDLING
Regardless of where your journey takes you, activating Drive/Terrain Mode makes short work of mud, snow, rain or any other challenge you’ll meet on the road with integrated All-Wheel Drive. Now you'll always feel in control.
Four different drive modes—Smart, Eco, Sport, and Comfort—ensure you’re always comfortably in control. Snow, mud and sand terrain modes are optimized to increase traction control to handle any road conditions. The standard all-wheel drive adds two additional drive moves. AWD Lock disperses the power evenly to all four wheels, giving you total control on rougher terrain.
Can any owners confirm on EX? Or is it only on SX?
Sorry if this is a simple question, but can someone explain the difference between Mazda's G-Vectoring Control, a mechanical/electronically controlled LSD and the various forms of torque vectoring?
I've only driven cars with brake torque vectoring and I understand what each system does, but simply reading about them doesn't really help me grasp the effects, pros and cons of each.
