answers in the comments
(I am sorry for the fault in the title it has to be Noldo instead of Noldor thanks to @rabbithasacat for pointing it out)
Silmarillion'u yeniden kurcalarken kafama takฤฑldฤฑ bu soru. Bence Elrond Noldor'un Yรผksek Kralฤฑ olmak iรงin tรผm gereksinimleri karลฤฑlฤฑyor. Hem zamanฤฑnฤฑn Noldor Yรผksek Krallarฤฑ'nฤฑn soyundan, Fingolfin hanesinden geliyor, hem Noldor Elfi, hem de bilge bir Elf. Noldor'un Yรผksek Kralฤฑ olmak iรงin de saf Elf olmak veya illa bir Yรผksek Kral'ฤฑn oฤlu olmak gibi รถzel ลartlarฤฑn olduฤunu da sanmฤฑyorum. Ortada Noldor Elfi mi kaldฤฑ desek, bu herif bu รผnvanฤฑ alsa etrafฤฑnda Noldor, Sindar, Nandor, Silvan, Vanyar, Laiquendi falan her cinsten Elfi toplamaz mฤฑ? Aynฤฑ zamanda tรผm Orta Dรผnya Elflerine, yeni bir Yรผksek Kral var diyerek umut aลฤฑlamaz mฤฑ?
Why did the Valar forgive Melkor 10 years after they defeated him after the awakening of the elves, but they closed Aman to the Noldor who left, effectively leaving them to die at the hands of Melkor with no path to forgiveness?
Melkor's crimes weren't great. I mean sure, him marring Arda and the Valar's constructions was a victimless crime lol. The problem is, he also dressed up as Orome and "disappeared" elves (possibly to make orcs out of them, possibly just to kill them). So it's not like he hadn't harmed anyone. Plus, I also seem to recall he started making evil animals and generally was a jerk to the trees and animals of Middle-Earth. And yet, he's given a 10 year jail sentence and then released - fully forgiven. Even though he's the least trustworthy person in all of Ea - he's acted against the Valar like 3 times by that point (his shenanigans during the Music, his destruction of the Valar's lake-house at Almaren, and his corrupting of the elves in Utumno)!
The Noldor, on the other hand, are being punished for leaving... well that and the kinslaying lol. But is the kinslaying really enough to make each individual Noldo worse than Melkor (pre-tree-destroying-Melkor, that is)? Are the Noldor really so much worse than Melkor that no punishment other than death-by-Melkor can atone for their crimes?
I've always found Tolkien Gateway a reputable source and while reading the summary of Turin it mentioned he was dark of color as the Noldor. Is it safe to say that not all skin tones were stark white alabaster skin and that some might have had a darker skin tone? I'm picturing something similar to a light tan. Or is this just a reference to dark hair..?
We only see elves living in forests, peaceful high elves or dark elves living underground and the boring elf slaves tropes.
But I never saw once in a book, comic, movie (I won't mention gaming since elves are never there),... Elves like the Noldor. I'd love to see talented craftsmens, mighty warriors, sailors in search of new lands, builders who creat huge and beautiful cities,...
I don't understand why not a single person used this amazing idea.
Right now I'm pairing them with Heralds, Guardians, Cataphracts, and/or Bow Knights. Arwen, Legolas, Haldir, and Gimli are my strongest commanders.
Comparisons to ancient civilizations are often made, and so to make it easier to consider these nations and peoples like that, I would like to know what differences in cuisine there were. Anybody know?
I'm rereading the LOTR after finishing the Silmarion and I'm now realizing that all of these prominent high elves committed wrong against the valar, following Fรซanor in his rebellion. Yet when reading about Gildor, Gil-Galad, Galadriel etc, they have such veneration for goodness and the valar, and they feel so sorrowful about the darkening of middle earth.
I guess I'm having difficulty getting into the head of an exiled Noldor. How would Galadriel justify participating in the rebellion and did she grow regretful of it? Why didnt the exiled return promptly after the War of Wrath? Was it pride? Shame? A love of middle earth? Does the sorrow of the elves relate to them being exiled.
This dynamic is elusive to me
Hey guys, looking for feedback on the decks. One is a semi-typical Dwarf spam deck and the other is a Noldor Light of Valinor abuse deck. I'll most likely be using these for solo, but I think they're also not too janky that I could use them to help teach a buddy play.
https://ringsdb.com/decklist/view/23807/testdwarvesdeck-2.0
https://ringsdb.com/decklist/view/23808/testnoldordeck-2.0
Currently, I own 1x Core Set, the full Mirkwood cycle, Over and Under Hill, and 4 of the Dwarrowdelf packs.
I'm certain he would get defeated easily and quickly but I'd like to know how the battles would go out exactly.
These guys stood up to Morgoth, his forces and even Balrogs, wouldn't they be able to crush Sauron with ease?
So Melkor is already starting to overrun Beleriand before the Noldor arrive. Were the Vala just going to leave Melkor be? Without the Noldor there's no Earendil.
I know the Easterlings make up a good chunk of peoples in the East of Rhun, making it a chaotic part of Arda to reside in.
But if the Blue Wizards journeyed there, it can only be because they were there to help potential others not under Sauron's dominion. They must've had it harder before the Easterlings shifted focus to conquering Dale and the Dwarf Kingdoms.
I have a particularly educated reader theory that one of the Freeples there are Lune Elves. (Pronounced loon).
Lune Elves is my name for Elven kind who stayed in the Coast of the First Awakening. That would ideally make them close in lineage to the Noldor, who were the first and journeyed West.
Name comes from Lune meaning "Blue" in Elvish, and there's a non-canon forested region of East Coast Rhun called Bluewood.
It's hence also the name that's not canon. But although not official, I'm sure there were some type of Elves to the East that piqued Alatar and Pallando's interest.
Thoughts?
As the title says, I was playing last night and finally got my first castle after spending about 200 days just beating the shit out of bandits etc and upgrading myself and companions.
And I'm sure you get a letter or something spelling out your past? The noldor love me as whitestag Castle is a great place to build relations with them.
Have I done something wrong?
I just finished a reread of The Silmarillion, and I was really struck by how the Noldor really never had a chance of defeating Morgoth.
The closest they really get is the siege of Angband, but even then they clearly have no way of breaching the gates. They can only ever hope to contain his evil never really destroy it.
By the time Morgoth has created dragons they have no chance of ever destroying him. Everytime they come up against them they are utterly crushed. Although Fingolfin's fight against him is brave, but it's clear he could never have really defeated him.
Even in the best case scenario of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad all they would have been able to do is renew a siege of Angband which would have surely been broken eventually.
If the Noldor had ever entered Angband it's clear from the War of Wrath that many evil's lurk within that they could not have hoped to really win
TL;DR when I read The Silmarillion initially as a teenager I always saw The Noldor as coming close to defeating Morgoth, but rereading it now the doom of Mados and the futility of the Noldor's struggle against Morgoth seems apparent in every chapter.
So with the models I have currently, the list is as follows:
Rivendell - 19 Warriors, 500 Points, 6 Bow.
--Hero of Legend--
Gil-Galad, High King of the Elves: Aiglos, Heavy Armour, Horse, Shield
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4 x High Elf Warrior: Elven-made Hand-and-a-Half Sword, Heavy Armour, King's Guard, Shield, Spear.
1 x High Elf Warrior: Banner, Elven-made Hand-and-a-Half Sword, Heavy Armour.
8 x High Elf Warrior: Elven-made Hand-and-a-Half Sword, Heavy Armour.
--Hero of Fortitude--
High Elf Captain: Elven-made Hand-and-a-Half Sword, Heavy Armour, Horse, Lance, Shield
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6 x High Elf Warrior: Elf Bow, Elven-made Hand-and-a-Half Sword, Heavy Armour.
I'm super new to the MESBG world and I've yet to play a proper game so any tips or advice would be really appreciated! :)
Season 2 comes in about 12 hours and I'm considering swapping to Lindon. Haldir's "Forest Agility" skill gives a 20% chance for ranged units to attack twice each round. How does this interact with the Noldor Longshots?
Hey all. The Curse of Feanor easily asserts an unchangeable truth, beating Journey Through the Dark, 109 to 39.
Today is Lucifer's Heritage vs. Noldor (Dead Winter Reigns), as another exercise in entirely disparate contenders. Pick a favorite!
These may be the worst tier 4 unit..... am I using them wrong or ??? Every time I run into a battle they have the least damage and take the most other than my front line.
In the chapter of the Silmarillion The Return of the Noldor, after the arrival of Fingolfin and his followers, it is said that the "because of the curse that lay upon them, the Noldor achieved nothing" (against Morgoth). It has been months since I last picked up this book (terrible way to read a book like this, I know) and I don't remember what curse this refers to. Could someone please refresh my memory?
He was a descendent of Finwe was he not? I think it can be traced back to the house of Fingolfin. Honestly the Noldorin lines of decent is a mind blowing study.
