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Hello all, I'm doing an ironman as Ming and have conquered half of Mongolia and this have a large Khalkha Mongol contingent. However whenever I try to develop their provinces so as to accept their culture I get nothing. Nothing as in still at 0 development. I'm not sure if this is because my Empire stretches from Kamchatka to Buryatia and these provinces are just too poor to contitute economic aspects of my nations development. Any advice is welcomed.
It's my rough understanding that the Buryats paid tribute to Khalkha khans, but weren't too happy with it and participated in some rebellions. Is this true?
Followup: how frequently would Khalkha and Buryats have interacted face to face? The travel time between modern Ulaanbaatar and Ulan Ude is still 12-14 hours, and it must have been a multi-day journey back then between the Khalkha and buryat heartlands. How did this play out?
Khalkha has risen as the new power of the Nirun Steppe.
After many glorious wars were fought, they came out on top to become the rulers of all tribes, with the Buryat being a subservient vassal state to the northeast, who are not governed by Khalkha, but who pay tribute to them every third full moon.
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The Oirat were quick to submit to the Khalkha as their overlords, seeing that the power of Khartsaiz was an unstoppable one that they could not hope to defeat. This left only three clans remaining in Nirun: Baruun Eregtei in the west, Buryat in the east, and Khalkha, the largest, separating them.
After a short war in which they were completely broken during which their leader, Khan Bortei Khuuchin, finally died at the age of 78 winters, Buryat fell to the might of Khalkha. They ceded their two most southern provinces to Khan Temรผjin, but requested diplomatically that they keep control of Lake Bajkal, as only they knew how to appease the god of the waters, and without their constant praise and reverence towards him all the world would be destroyed. Temรผjin, being a somewhat superstitious man, allowed this, so long as tribute was paid to him regularly. The state was now a vassal.
Following this, Baruun Eregtei's Khan, Qoribucha, grew both restless and over-confident. He attacked the western provinces of Khalkha, and remarkably reached Khartsaiz, where his people were utterly slaughtered at the city's defences - they had not yet learnt how to survive hot tar being poured over their heads.
This left the far west broken and defenceless, and Temรผjin was quick to conquer all but the westernmost province. Qoribucha's son promptly surrendered and at last, Khalkha ruled the steppe.
In celebration of this, Khagan Temรผjin has ordered two things.
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That he be recognised as Chinggis Khagan, meaning True Khagan, and as ruler of all the Mongol Steppe.
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That the nation once known as Nirun be now known as the Khalkha Empire.
He has also sent an envoy to Scythia, requesting friendship and the possibility of a marriage between the two ruling families.
Is the topic brought up at all in Mongolia? Do Khalkhas feel great sympathy with their fellow Mongol Dzungars (even though they were enemies at the beginning of the Dzungar-Qing Wars)?
I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.
Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.
Do your worst!
I'm surprised it hasn't decade.
The object of this post is to cast doubt on the veracity and historicity of the work of "Mongolian" literature known as the Secret History of the Mongols.
From Wikipedia: "The Secret History is regarded as the single most significant native Mongolian account of Genghis Khan. Linguistically, it provides the richest source of pre-classical Mongolian and Middle Mongolian.[2] The Secret History is regarded as a piece of classic literature in both Mongolia and the rest of the world."
However, Wikipedia goes on to admit that the origin of the texts and manuscripts are highly dubious, stating: "The only surviving copies[!] of the work are transcriptions[!] of the original Mongolian text with Chinese[!] characters, accompanied by a (somewhat shorter) in-line glossary and a translation of each section into Chinese. In China, the work had been well known as a text for teaching Chinese to read and write Mongolian during the Ming dynasty, and the Chinese translation was used in several historical works, but by the 1800s, copies had become very rare[!]."
So was the Secret History really a work of Mongolian literature, or was it Chinese?
Moreover, Wikipedia states: "Baavuday Tsend Gun (1875โ1932) was the first Mongolian scholar[!] to transcribe The Secret History of the Mongols into modern Mongolian, in 1915โ17. The first to discover the Secret History for the West and offer a translation from the Chinese glossary[!] was the Russian sinologist Palladiy Kafarov in 1866. The first translations from the reconstructed[!] Mongolian text were done by the German sinologist Erich Haenisch (edition
... keep reading on reddit โกFor context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.
I said "hey look, an escaPEA"
No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!
Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies ๐
It really does, I swear!
