Dunning–kruger Effect Puns

It's pain dealing with people that think they can't fight because they know too little about fighting to know how much they actually know. Whoever you are, even if you're too tier MMA fighter there will always be guys that think they can beat you up in a fight even tho they never set foot in a ring. There is 2 reasons why people think they can fight. 1 delusion/dunning Kruger effect 2 insecurities. No matter how good you are you will hear. "There's no rules in street fight" "i would beat you up" and stuff like that.

Hi guys, today I had a "mentorship" call my FB Community set up for members. It was actually eye-opening but it made me kind of sad, unsure about where to go in the future.

I'm 22, currently designing and developing WordPress websites to small businesses and solopreneurs. It's not technically hard, but I'm just a drop of water in a sea of millions of WP "Devs" that click up your website in page builder. Somehow I managed to find enough business to bring me 4x the national average wage, so I though I was doing really well for my current situation.

However, looks like I'm setting myself up for a long-term failure with this kind of entrepreneurship. After my call with this mentor, I finally heard in words of another person what was already there in the back of my mind. I don't think I have anything really good to offer. I can make you a website, optimize your conversions, make a simple marketing campaign, but that's basically it. Anything above this scope is out of my hands and I'm stuck in a some sort of a hamster wheel of completing easy projects that don't make me grow as a person / improving my skills and yet not being able to take on bigger projects because of this same lack of technical skills.

On the other hand, I don't want to stay in the operative, I'd rather just improve my sales and marketing and do design while someone else actually implements it. But even if I take on this path, I just become one out of the many professionals that offer web design.

So basically in a matter of 30 minutes, I hit both the top and the bottom of the Dunning-Kruger Effect Chart. And now I'm in a kind of sticky sitation where I'm not really sure where to go from here.

This mentor I talked to suggested getting into the nitty gritty of some specialized field, like startups and identifying their main problems and then designing my whole solution and my whole persona around it. With that, I should then reach out only to prospects with the same problems and pitch them my solution. This seems to be the most viable option and in the future I can probably scale from doing only web design to solve startup solutions to maybe advising them also on marketing etc., but still being a master of that niche.

I played with some thoughts before about putting an end to my just-another-wordpress-website-guy type of work and getting into UX design, but to be honest seeing that I would have to say goodbye to a big chunk of my earnings if I stop being 100% in the current business kind of

The options talk I think is objectively good as it provides more insight on the situation and an opportunity for us as a community to learn quite a bit about how this situation might unfold however please reconsider trading options if you have absolutely no experience or even very little experience as they present huge risk. You can literally lose all your money trying to play them.

If you think you have learned and know everything about options because you have read a few books or posts, let me introduce you to the Dunning-Kruger effect:

>"The Dunning–Kruger effect is the cognitive bias whereby people with low ability at a task overestimate their own ability. Some researchers include in their definition also the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. The Dunning–Kruger effect is usually measured by comparing self-assessment with objective performance. For example, the participants in a study may be asked to complete a quiz and then estimate how well they did. This subjective assessment is then compared to how well they actually did. This can happen either in relative or in absolute terms, i.e. in comparison to one's peer group as the percentage of peers outperformed or in comparison to objective standards as the number of questions that were answered correctly. The Dunning–Kruger effect appears in both cases but is more pronounced in relative terms: the bottom quartile of performers tend to see themselves as being part of the top two quartiles."

This means you very much probably should not be playing options just because you think you know what you are doing, you should ensure you have not only paper-trading experience with them for probably a number of years, but also real world experience with them before trading options. If you are a new trader because of Gamestop like I am, please consider staying well away from this risk until you are completely certain and familiar with what you are doing.

Do you guys also consider yourself to be wise and knowledgeable beyond your skill level?

It is becoming more obvious to me daily that this is how I operate. My mind ramps me ul to be this superhero that is changimg the world yet I am more like the villain that uses other capable people to my advantage. And it is not even a real advantage, it’s more like I amintellectually challenged compared to those around me and with the amount of dissociation that goes on on my brain by the hour most of what I hear about and could actually use as good info is not put down to long term memory.

I feel like a person with a severe disability due to my ignorance.

TDLR: are neuropsychologists and experts really that ignorant when it comes to identifying autism or are some suspected autistic people suffering under the dunning kruger effect? Can we really say that we know better than the experts?

After my neuropsych evaluation I shared a table listing suspected autistic traits concerning each of the three DSM-V criteria. I'm aware that many of these probably aren't symptoms, but for alot of these not everybody does these lol. I received the results today and in the notes the neuropsychologist wrote that I maintained eye contact well and could hold a conversation.

These two things, as you all obviously know, aren't intuitive to us and I don't sense the rhythm of conversation. However I could keep a conversation then because the conversation had purpose, a function! These things feel like playing chess. I wasn't able to articulate this or internal manifestations of my suspected ASD, and I thought I had a pretty strong case, I only shared the table before I left. But he also wrote this:

>[my name] is advised that reports in the research literature reflect that it is not terribly uncommon for individuals among the general population to evidence symptoms that might arguably be considered autistic in nature[source he cited, another source], and it is very common for lay individuals to read over the highly subjective diagnostic criteria for an ASD and loosely interpret such in a pathological direction.

The neuropsychologist had a few clusters of people, albeit probably related, who gave horrible reviews on google for feeling dismissed and not receiving an ASD diagnosis.

So is there something some of us laymen are missing? I mean, I know what's going on in my mind better than the neuropsych, but he's spend 12+ years training to do what he does with decades more experience, is (presumably) immersed in the literature, and has a large network of colleagues who can share ideas. Not to mention above average intelligence.

Those of you who are professionals or even live for your special interests, you observe how laymen swear they know what they're talking about when they're arguing about a subject they know not even the basics of. And that's in any domain. If we're humble we can admit that all of us

His ego is so big he doesn't seem to understand he's only popular because he makes OK beats. He thinks he's the second Jesus and rides into churches on a horse. He truly believes people worship him and are inspired by his godlike wit and intelligence, and is the gift to mankind.

He sounds like he has the IQ of a banana when he blesses his "genius thoughts" upon the earth. The more attention he gets the more he believes it's attributed to his influencial ideas, but he doesn't seem to realize he married a person who only became famous because people fall for drama and mindless tv when they're off work and feel like unplugging thier brain for an hour.

His cognitive function is more comparable to someone with alziemers. He has rambling thoughts spewing from a seemingly delusional state and he's getting worse over time. His ego and complete unawareness to his mental state are baffling. He is nowhere close to being the unique, one of a kind, mesmerising influence that he seems to believe he is.

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any research about if autistic people experience the Dunning-Kruger Effect in the same way as allistic people. For context, the Dunning-Kruger Effect is the well documented phenomena that the less informed a person is on a topic, the more likely they are to overestimate their knowledge in the area. It is sometimes applied directly to intelligence (using IQ most often) which is nonsense because people don't have overarching intelligence scores in my opinion. But, for example, if you've taken one psychology class you are more likely to overestimate how much you know about psychology as compared to someone who has a PhD in it.

Anyway, the whole concept seems based in social norms and oddly allistic to me, so I'm just wondering if anyone knows about how or if it shows up in autistic people! Thanks!

Good explanation of not just what the Dunning-Kruger Effect is but why people who have it seem to "win" debates. Those who know nothing are very confident in their abilities and the public responds better to those who exude confidence, hence the public is more likely to say the confident person "won" the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FGnb2lgPBA

The Dunning-Kruger effect in short is where an incompetent person always greatly overestimates their ability.

In our case, Yasuo's flashy abilities and kit allows even the worst players to look cool with their overloaded mobility, and stats. Pulling flashy play with R and Flash while dashing all over the place looks great when it actually works (more due to enemy incompetence and Yasuo's own kit than the Yasuo player's skill)

However, this causes a Yasuo who hasn't died enough to think that he is "HAWT shit" and thus he will try to 1v5 the enemy team thinking he can win and impress his duo'd bot Yuumi e-girl whos actually a guy irl. This sub 10 death Yasuo will therefore have an extremely high chance of throwing the game by

1. never grouping.
2. always trying to splitpush and 1v2-1v3 when the team is out of position or not near an objective.
3. dying right before a major objective.
4. giving away all his shut down gold over and over again.
5. Buying greedy items like Kraken Slayer, Berserker Greaves, and PD instead of Shieldbow and Bloodthirster.

In short, his lack of fear and humility will greatly decreases his chances of winning because he throws caution to the wind.

Now enter 10 death Yasuo

This Yasuo used to overestimate his abilities. But after having his ass handed to him by the enemy 10 times in a row, his illusion has effectively been shattered.

Instead of thinking he is "HAWT shit". He now thinks he is "hot SHIT"

There is no e-girl to impress, that dream has been shat on at 20 minutes after his 10th death. Instead of showing off, he is now focused on saving face.

1. He now sticks with the team because he fears for his life and wants their protection
2. He doesn't try to 1v1 or 1v2 by himself half way across the map because he believes he will lose
3. He now wants to get objectives instead of just suiciding into the enemy team because thats the only way he can come back into the game
4. He doesn't have shutdown gold to give and he is too scared of fighting the enemy alone to move carelessly
5. He buys safer items like Shieldbow, BloodThirster, GA, Plated Steelcaps or Merc Treads.

In short, his fear makes him play smart and therefore greatly ups the chances of winning the game while decreasing the chances of him throwing.

It's about competence and skill in a given area. Such as overestimating your skill in chess or a task. Intelligent people can be just as arrogant as a dumb person, if not more.

It's just a pet peeve when someone points out the Dunning Kruger effect when someone brags about their intelligence. That person could be dumb or ya know, not humble. Raw Intelligence =/= social skills or humbleness.

I read one article and now I’m an expert on the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

AMA

This could explain what many people in cults have to overcome in order to walk away.

Hi guys, today I had a "mentorship" call my FB Community set up for members. It was actually eye-opening but it made me kind of sad, unsure about where to go in the future.

I'm 22, currently designing and developing WordPress websites to small businesses and solopreneurs. It's not technically hard, but I'm just a drop of water in a sea of millions of WP "Devs" that click up your website in page builder. Somehow I managed to find enough business to bring me 4x the national average wage, so I though I was doing really well for my current situation.

However, looks like I'm setting myself up for a long-term failure with this kind of entrepreneurship. After my call with this mentor, I finally heard in words of another person what was already there in the back of my mind. I don't think I have anything really good to offer. I can make you a website, optimize your conversions, make a simple marketing campaign, but that's basically it. Anything above this scope is out of my hands and I'm stuck in a some sort of a hamster wheel of completing easy projects that don't make me grow as a person / improving my skills and yet not being able to take on bigger projects because of this same lack of technical skills.

On the other hand, I don't want to stay in the operative, I'd rather just improve my sales and marketing and do design while someone else actually implements it. But even if I take on this path, I just become one out of the many professionals that offer web design.

So basically in a matter of 30 minutes, I hit both the top and the bottom of the Dunning-Kruger Effect Chart. And now I'm in a kind of sticky sitation where I'm not really sure where to go from here.

This mentor I talked to suggested getting into the nitty gritty of some specialized field, like startups and identifying their main problems and then designing my whole solution and my whole persona around it. With that, I should then reach out only to prospects with the same problems and pitch them my solution. This seems to be the most viable option and in the future I can probably scale from doing only web design to solve startup solutions to maybe advising them also on marketing etc., but still being a master of that niche.

I played with some thoughts before about putting an end to my just-another-wordpress-website-guy type of work and getting into UX design, but to be honest seeing that I would have to say goodbye to a big chunk of my earnings if I stop being 100% in the current business kind of

Hi guys, today I had a "mentorship" call my FB Community set up for members. It was actually eye-opening but it made me kind of sad, unsure about where to go in the future.

I'm 22, currently designing and developing WordPress websites to small businesses and solopreneurs. It's not technically hard, but I'm just a drop of water in a sea of millions of WP "Devs" that click up your website in page builder. Somehow I managed to find enough business to bring me 4x the national average wage, so I though I was doing really well for my current situation.

However, looks like I'm setting myself up for a long-term failure with this kind of entrepreneurship. After my call with this mentor, I finally heard in words of another person what was already there in the back of my mind. I don't think I have anything really good to offer. I can make you a website, optimize your conversions, make a simple marketing campaign, but that's basically it. Anything above this scope is out of my hands and I'm stuck in a some sort of a hamster wheel of completing easy projects that don't make me grow as a person / improving my skills and yet not being able to take on bigger projects because of this same lack of technical skills.

On the other hand, I don't want to stay in the operative, I'd rather just improve my sales and marketing and do design while someone else actually implements it. But even if I take on this path, I just become one out of the many professionals that offer web design.

So basically in a matter of 30 minutes, I hit both the top and the bottom of the Dunning-Kruger Effect Chart. And now I'm in a kind of sticky sitation where I'm not really sure where to go from here.

This mentor I talked to suggested getting into the nitty gritty of some specialized field, like startups and identifying their main problems and then designing my whole solution and my whole persona around it. With that, I should then reach out only to prospects with the same problems and pitch them my solution. This seems to be the most viable option and in the future I can probably scale from doing only web design to solve startup solutions to maybe advising them also on marketing etc., but still being a master of that niche.

I played with some thoughts before about putting an end to my just-another-wordpress-website-guy type of work and getting into UX design, but to be honest seeing that I would have to say goodbye to a big chunk of my earnings if I stop being 100% in the current business kind of

Hi guys, today I had a "mentorship" call my FB Community set up for members. It was actually eye-opening but it made me kind of sad, unsure about where to go in the future.

I'm 22, currently designing and developing WordPress websites to small businesses and solopreneurs. It's not technically hard, but I'm just a drop of water in a sea of millions of WP "Devs" that click up your website in page builder. Somehow I managed to find enough business to bring me 4x the national average wage, so I though I was doing really well for my current situation.

However, looks like I'm setting myself up for a long-term failure with this kind of entrepreneurship. After my call with this mentor, I finally heard in words of another person what was already there in the back of my mind. I don't think I have anything really good to offer. I can make you a website, optimize your conversions, make a simple marketing campaign, but that's basically it. Anything above this scope is out of my hands and I'm stuck in a some sort of a hamster wheel of completing easy projects that don't make me grow as a person / improving my skills and yet not being able to take on bigger projects because of this same lack of technical skills.

On the other hand, I don't want to stay in the operative, I'd rather just improve my sales and marketing and do design while someone else actually implements it. But even if I take on this path, I just become one out of the many professionals that offer web design.

So basically in a matter of 30 minutes, I hit both the top and the bottom of the Dunning-Kruger Effect Chart. And now I'm in a kind of sticky sitation where I'm not really sure where to go from here.

This mentor I talked to suggested getting into the nitty gritty of some specialized field, like startups and identifying their main problems and then designing my whole solution and my whole persona around it. With that, I should then reach out only to prospects with the same problems and pitch them my solution. This seems to be the most viable option and in the future I can probably scale from doing only web design to solve startup solutions to maybe advising them also on marketing etc., but still being a master of that niche.

I played with some thoughts before about putting an end to my just-another-wordpress-website-guy type of work and getting into UX design, but to be honest seeing that I would have to say goodbye to a big chunk of my earnings if I stop being 100% in the current business kind o