I can solve with beginner method, but my 11-year-old son is taking it to the next level, and is sub-60 seconds in just a few months of cubing. I'm interested in finding him a tutor online who help him get better at CFOP method. He wants to learn to be better at the cross, learn advanced F2L and advanced PLL as well as OLL.
Is there a list of experienced speedcubing tutors out there?
Hi, So I have been using beginners method for a few years now and I am now looking to decrease the time it takes me to solve. I have found that I get stuck staring at the cube for hours because I find it so hard to break out of my old ways with beginners method. Intuitive F2L is extremely hard and I don't know how I'd be able to learn 45+ algorithms when I can even understand which one I use for each case (the pictures always mess me up). I've tried video tutorials for F2L intuitive, print outs for algs, etc. Just not sure where to go from here and if it's just a lost cause. Any recommended ways to learn CFOP? I'm not sure how I should break it up between different steps either 😅 Thanks.
Update: Rido's Hunting Story really made this so much easier. I'm making F2L pairs without stressing out now. With practice Ill be able to do it without thinking too much about it, I can't believe I finally found something that I understood. Thank you so much!!
F2L: Oh, this makes sense! I got that down fast! OLL: Well there's some stuff to memorize but I will get it down PLL: I mean, I guess the beginner's method works
Hi, I have just started solving cube. I can solve by Beginners' method just around 5 minutes. Now I just wants to know that should I switch to CFOP now or I first improve my Beginners' method speed? Which will be better technique?
I am trying to learn one-handed and don’t have a left hand but I was able to reverse engineer Ua to work with just L and U moves that is quite quick but I am having difficulty finding one for Ub any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
So my previous best was 26.57 and today, after doing a good 29 second solve (unfortunately a +2), I beat my previous record with a 18.858 solve! I'm still trying to figure out how I did it since my global avg is about 37 seconds.
Scramble: B' U R2 L2 F2 D' L2 R F2 U' R' L' D U L R U D F'
The cross had one piece already in position and one could be easily inserted. I managed to finish the cross in less than three seconds, not my fastest cross, not so good, but still a decent time. Then, in F2L, the stars alligned I guess. One pair was already made, I inserted it and one formed, one other pair was a three move one, and the last one was already made. In OLL I had a situation in which I didn't know the algorithm, I just did f R U R' U' f and get a very easy one (R U R' U R U2 R'). Ended up with the cube 2 moves away from the solved, I had a little delay but I then moved U2 right away and stopped the timer. Incredible! 18.858! I'm so happy right now.
in order to learn the new algorithms, should I do one at a time several times or should I solve it and just use the algorithm that I need that specific time? I guess the last one is less efficient so I don't plan on doing that.
if there's other methods to learn it I'm interested on reading them
Hey guys. I’m relatively new to cubing and have been working on improving my F2L, mainly by minimizing cube rotations. I find myself frequently in the situation where I have a pair ready to be inserted which I can either do with F U F’/F’ U’ F or I can do a cube rotation and do R U R’/L’ U’ L. In general, which is the preferred method? I find the one using front moves to be much slower (likely because of my inexperience doing front moves), but a lot of tips I see say to minimize cube rotations so is it preferred?
Also does anyone have any finger tricks specifically for those 2 little algorithms for the front moves? I’ve watched a lot of videos but can’t find any specifically for those 3 move algorithms. I find using my thumbs to rotate the front to be the best, but a lot of videos say to use your index finger to push down on the front to rotate it. For these algorithms the best way I can find to do it is F with right index finger, U with right middle finger then F’ with left thumb.
I just don’t want to get in any more bad habits that I’ll have to correct later. Thanks!
Hey dudes! I'm approaching 30 second solve times using F2L and 4 Look OLL. My PLL sucks, I know some begginer alg off the Rubik's site and need to practice my PLL and OLL algs but I don't know how to.
How can I repeat one alg over and over to memorize it?
Is there a tutorial on this? I'd really like to break past the 30 second mark and get my average below 30 seconds. I believe I'm capable of a 10 second solve one day, but I have to work towards it.
Why do you think it’s less popular and if you think it’s faster than other methods why do you think so?
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Ok, hang with me because I have a proposal that just might change how you view 3x3 CFOP last layer. Currently the standard meta is to do LS+OLL+PLL which works fine and has 42+57+21=90 algorithms (I know f2l has more than 42 algorithms using different angles, multislotting preservation and EO etc).
At the advanced level the reasonable next step a cuber takes is learn cp prediction for OLL. This allows the cuber to predict PLL through cp skips, diag swaps or how to AUF for adjacent swaps with ROLL. To go even further one can learn anti-diag OLLCP to solve an OLL provided the difference between the OLL and anti-diag OLLCP is shorter than the difference between EPLLs and diag PLLs. This concept of cp prediction will appear in 100% of solves and concept of using anti-diag OLLCP might be worth it for around 80% of cases so 1/6 * 4/5 = 4/30 ≈ 1/8 solves. Now 1/8 is quite a peculiar number because it is almost exactly the same probability as getting an edge solved OLL which leads us into our next topic.
So after many people learn CFOP they start getting their hands dirty with COLL and ZBLL. As many have discussed previously COLL isn't really worth it except for anti-diag minus S/AS and although ZBLL is nice it requires having edges oriented from f2l which using ZBLS requires 300 algs but can often be done quite intuitively. Now the big question is how much time does the ZB method save relative to LS+OLL+PLL? So for last slot it loses some time due to EO recognition and longer algorithms but for the time saved on OLL+PLL it really depends on what OLL and PLL. For a short fast OLL like S/AS the time saved is marginal whereas for TUL it is greater. However what this entire post is leading up to is what time is saved by a 1lll subset and how it depends on which PLL it skips. For a cp skip ZBLL (2GLL) they skip the fastest PLLs however this is compensated by the fact that 2GLL is a very fast 2-gen subset containing many sunes and alike. A diag ZBLL also skips the longest PLLs and can afford to be slightly slower since they save the most time. Finally the adjacent ZBLLs are somewhere in the middle. Now the purpose of learning an algset is that we want it to save as much time as possible with as few algorithms as possible. That is where my next proposal that learning diag 1lll can probably (not tested yet) save more time than ZBLL.
So what I propose is remember how I said there are around 80% anti-diag OLLCP algs that are worth it? Well for the remaining 20% learn
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WHAT: This might sound like a weird question, but I want to hire a speed cuber to work with my 9 year old for 5 to 8 hours (in total, over a few months) via zoom to teach him CFOP.
WHO: Ideally, you really love teaching and you are great at explaining. The critical thing is that you can slow down and not just say stuff like, "watch this" and then do it too fast for someone else to repeat. What else? You are great at CFOP and really passionate about cubing. You understand the mistakes newbies make and can help get over some of the hurdles someone might face learning on their own from YT.
WHY: Why a tutor? I want to give my kiddo a whole experience (this is a birthday present.) I don't just want to hand him a cube and a link to a YT channel. From my perspective, this isn't as much about him learning how to cube (which I hope he does) but about him learning how to learn with a mentor. I want him to get a sense of the culture, of the joy of cubing, and I want him to be able to ask questions and have that iterative growth experience that happens when tutoring works.
WHY. PT. 2: Yes. It has to be CFOP. I know that the general recommendation is to start with beginner algo, but because I don't have enough money to do 20+ hours of tutoring, I want to go straight to CFOP. Also, he has a friend who does CFOP and between tutoring sessions he'll be able to ask him questions and get support. He also is super-competitive, and his friend doing CFOP will give him a worthy rival :)
He is the kind of kid that will practice between lessons. I am thinking one 60 minute lesson a week, or two 30 minute lessons a week, for two months-ish. With follow-ups after that if he has questions or hits a plateau. There is no time to get under or no competition to train for, this is just all about having fun, learning something new and if it sticks, having a new interest that's awesome!
LAST THING: This is reddit. It's likely people will jump in and say this is stupid. Or insult me 20 different ways for hiring someone to teach when 99.9% of cubers just learn on their own. I get that, but I think learning with a tutor/mentor is not only a way to support someone in the community who can make some spending money teaching something they love, but that also, learning live is a worthy and fabulous experience in it's own way. If you have snarky comments, please keep them out of the thread.
WHAT'S NEXT? Interested? DM me with (1) your charge per hour, (2)
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I'm around 1 min with beginners method.
So I just learned beginner cfop (2-look OLL, 2-look PLL and stuff like that.) and i was wondering when should i learn advanced algorithms. When should I learn them?
Just finished learning basic f2l and 2 look oll/pll. Should I learn more advanced f2l, or should I start learning full oll and pll?
