SIL dropped the baby to the ground when she tried to put the baby in the car. They had an appointment w/ the pediatrician that afternoon. The doctor said the baby was fine (no ct scan) and gave him the shot. BCG vaccine is a mandatory vaccine for one month old in my country. The baby started developing fever in the evening and went into comma at night (brain swelling). He passed away 2 days later with organs failure. The test showed a bacterial infection in his blood. I read BCG Vaccine is supposedly a subcutaneous injection. So, is this the doctor’s fault for not making sure a proper check up when the baby fell? Or possibly the injection went too deep? What’s more likely the cause of death here?
Usually we wait till 1 yr of age to give live vaccines to allow time for the infant’s immune system to develop right?
It's like everyone I know has one, like a birthmark.
21F
I got my BCG vaccine as a child on my left arm and the scar (which is still quite large) has now migrated down my arm to the middle. I got my 2nd dose of COVID vaccine (Moderna) on my upper left arm 2 days ago but not close to the scar. My upper left arm is still a little swollen but my BCG scar is now red and inflamed. Is this a normal/expected side effect of the vaccine? Asking out of curiosity.
I got the vaccine last Tuesday and I got very bad arm pain, I couldn't even lift it. It was sore, hot, and a bit numb, then I developed muscular chest pain and a mild fever, and nausea, but I got better after approximately 4 days. Today the arm pain is back and my BCG vaccine scar got red and swollen and itchy, my entire arm is hot to the touch too.
I'm just wondering if anyone else had this and if I should contact a doctor?
I don't regret the vaccine at all and I will get the second dose even though I'm a bit scared that my reaction will be worse.
Long-term reduction in hyperglycemia in advanced type 1 diabetes: the value of induced aerobic glycolysis with BCG vaccinations
source - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-018-0062-8
Published: 21 June 2018
Willem M. Kühtreiber, Lisa Tran, Taesoo Kim, Michael Dybala, Brian Nguyen, Sara Plager, Daniel Huang, Sophie Janes, Audrey Defusco, Danielle Baum, Hui Zheng & Denise L. Faustman
Abstract Mycobacterium are among the oldest co-evolutionary partners of humans. The attenuated Mycobacterium bovis Bacillus Calmette Guérin (BCG) strain has been administered globally for 100 years as a vaccine against tuberculosis. BCG also shows promise as treatment for numerous inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. Here, we report on a randomized 8-year long prospective examination of type 1 diabetic subjects with long-term disease who received two doses of the BCG vaccine.
After year 3, BCG lowered hemoglobin A1c to near normal levels for the next 5 years. The BCG impact on blood sugars appeared to be driven by a novel systemic and blood sugar lowering mechanism in diabetes.
We observe a systemic shift in glucose metabolism from oxidative phosphorylation to aerobic glycolysis, a state of high glucose utilization. Confirmation is gained by metabolomics, mRNAseq, and functional assays of cellular glucose uptake after BCG vaccinations. To prove BCG could induce a systemic change to promote accelerated glucose utilization and impact blood sugars, murine data demonstrated reduced blood sugars and aerobic induction in non-autoimmune mice made chemically diabetic. BCG via epigenetics also resets six central T-regulatory genes for genetic re-programming of tolerance. These findings set the stage for further testing of a known safe vaccine therapy for improved blood sugar control through changes in metabolism and durability with epigenetic changes even in advanced Type 1 diabetes.
The A1c difference is significant: a 20% drop or a drop of 1.0 in A1c.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-018-0062-8/figures/1
blown away. there is something super weird about BCG vaccination. It helps blood sugar control. It treats bladder cancer.... There is some weird convergence of immunology and metabolism. The whole field of immunometabolism is the future. And I'm going out on a limb that fake meat isn't the panacea as viewed from the immunometabolism perspective.
My best understanding (mostly based on this site) is that it simply activates the immune system in the bladder, and the immune system then attacks the cancer cells. But I think I must be missing something, because if that were the case we could target pretty much any form of cancer with any vaccine.
24F, 160cm, 50kg, Caucasian, on birth control, occasionally drink alcohol.
Yesterday I got my first shot of the Moderna vaccine. For the rest of the day, I had a very sore arm — which was expected. Took a painkiller in the evening, that didn’t help.
Today I woke up with my BCG scar area red and tender. Is that a normal reaction or something to be worried about?
On the picture you can see a light bruise where the needle went in, my BCG scar is a few cm away.
Image: https://postimg.cc/5jhj0bfT
When I was a kid, this was a routine immunisation in the UK.
When I was pregnant I was told it’s no longer routine here and is only given to babies in higher risk areas and it’s now given on the day of birth.
A high risk area could be a London borough, but if you’re a 10 minute drive outside of that borough your child wouldn’t get it.
This doesn’t sit right with me. My child is now 1 and I’m interested to hear others opinions on this as I’m considering paying for it privately.
I can’t find anything showing why my child shouldn’t have it, so I am led to believe it’s a cost cutting exercise, but what if we unknowingly visit a higher risk area where vaccine uptake happens to be low. Is TB still a fatal disease? Have we got adequate treatment? Should I go private?
I don’t know if I’m over thinking this but I’d appreciate some input.
"Fob mark" ay resulta pala ng BCG vaccination against tuberculosis na tinurok via intradermal (o sa ilalim lang ng balat) after childbirth.
Gumagawa kasi ako ng module sa kurso ko na Midwifery, so nagsearch ako ng video kung paano i-administer yung BCG vaccine, tapos doon ko nalaman
Haha. Share ko lang.
31F. USA.
When I was 15 years old in the UK, I had the BCG vaccine. They did a prick test maybe a week or so before to see if you needed it the actual vaccine, and mine was on the very edge of what they considered to “need” it. The nurses consulted (vaccines are routinely done in schools in the UK) and I got the shot. The thinking was that it was better to err on the side of caution and give it.
My arm reacted... badly. It took a couple of months before it healed, it became green and oozed pus for a long while, I sort of looked like I had a hole in my arm - and I used to go to the nurse clinic at my local GP to get the dressings changed. I was excused from PE for months because I couldn’t lift my arm long after my peers arms had healed.
Obviously, this was a long time ago, but my upper arm around the scar still hurts when any pressure is applied to the area at all. It looks like a normal BCG scar though, nothing crazy. Kids hug me? It hurts. Sex? Watch my arm. Someone in a crowd bumps into me? Ouch. Sleeping on my left side? No go.
I’ve naturally become very protective over my left upper arm to the point I don’t think question it much anymore, I’m so used to it - but the pain does bother me. I wouldn’t even mind the area just being permanently numb because it is very inconvenient.
What could be making my arm still hurt so many years after? And is there a way to fix it? And what type of doc could fix it, if so?
