Wrong Artistic Proportions of the 3D Character Portraits

Dear developers,
I know that Vicky 3 is still in development, and all presented screenshots represent work in progress, but I really want to pay your attention to one of the details that really worries me as a person with art education.

The thing is that all the presented 3D portraits in the game have the same issue: the head in your models is always too big relative to the corps to be realistic. For example, the French clergyman's portrait looks like a child with mustaches due to his enormous head; and a bright light chosen for the scene makes the head even bigger. As a result, an in-game 3D portrait creates an uncanny valley effect or is just weird-looking, incompatible with a chosen 'realistic' style. The same issue might be relevant for all presented portraits in the game.

It seems to me that some early screenshots from CK3 had the same problem, and it was fixed later.

Dear developers, please, pay attention to the above point, and if you consider that if you find my remarks are suitable, fix the problem.

Example:

https://sun9-6.userapi.com/impg/JwC2rSddG_64O-d-KZPvu1Aiy-iKROlpr3WJBw/nIchGWMnEOw.jpg?size=687x431&quality=96&sign=77743614fc4db97746a96dc39ca9904f&type=album

P.S. My photoshop is not very precise, but at least I have tried to give you a general idea. A jawline, head width, eye size, and general corps proportions are not correct regarding each other and relative to shoulders and corps.

P.P.S.

This is a copy of this topic from the Paradoxplaza forum:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/wrong-artistic-proportions-of-the-3d-character-portraits.1480569/#post-27636111

There was a similar discussion by another author:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/devs-can-we-get-more-realistic-3d-characters-proportions-instead-of-the-big-head-cartoon-style.1478412/

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Greetings. I am studying the body proportions of an artist in order to get closer to the way he does it. And I need feedback if I'm getting closer or not and what I need to adjust to get even closer. I will leave it here as restricted until now. And I will also leave the references and studies. reddit.com/gallery/l8f91o
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Anybody know of a Daryll Dixon head that might fit a NECA body proportion wise?
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me when the hank is floating and also has a lack of lower body proportions. v.redd.it/cqdy141nfj081
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I need a lot of help with proportions and shape, i've never drawn bodies and i'm having a lot of trouble.
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The definitely totally real canon height difference between these two ocs that are definitely not being blown out of proportion here
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Whenever I saw a gender-bent version of the Crystal Gems, I never really saw male proportions (no dig at other artists!) so I drew gender-bent Garnet, with a more masculine body!
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Look how lore incorrect the body proportions are of Halo in the latest Master Chief release. smh, never let 434 make another Master Chief game.
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How Important Are Body Proportions in Yoga? (Yoga International article)

I did a search and did not find this article, so forgive me if this link is a repost.

This is an article by Jenni Rawlings for Yoga International. Frankly, I think it should be required reading for any yoga instructor, as well as any yoga practitioner (especially those who give advice to others about their form). Imagine how much frustration is caused by having people glibly tell you that all you need to do is this or that to achieve a certain posture or depth, when those people don't have sufficient understanding of how much variation there is in human anatomy, or how that variation (e.g. relative length of arms, torso, and legs) directly affects how a given body can approach a given posture. No amount of stretching is going to change the length of your leg bones compared to the length of your arm bones.

Too many teachers see their bodies as the default and only offer cues that are meaningful to bodies with proportions like their own. Of course people start from their own personal experience in their own bodies, but that's where training should come in to expand their awareness of what each posture is like in other bodies. I sincerely hope that yoga teacher training programs will do a better job of incorporating this topic into the curriculum so that more teachers will have the basic awareness and the compassion to be more inclusive in the way they teach so that they and their students can use this knowledge to inform their expectations of what to push and what to modify. Skipping this can leave students confused, discouraged, and unfairly feeling like they are at fault for not trying hard enough.

Excerpt:

>Perhaps you can think of a certain difficult yoga pose that you’ve been working on for a long time, but, despite your efforts, at some point it just seemed like you stopped making progress. You've sought advice from your teachers and asked your yoga friends for their insightful tips, but this specific asana still appears to be eluding you.
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>There is another often-overlooked influence on practice that is decidedly beyond our ability to change: the issue of individual body proportions.
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>This can be a perplexing experience because we are often taught that any yoga pose is possible to β€œachieve” if we simply practice long enough and with the right level of dedication. And certainly if we are diligent practitioners we can work to cultivate more strength, flexibility, and coordination in our poses. But there is anoth

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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So i am learning proportions of the body with simple shapes and learn to tackle them how do you think I can improve? reddit.com/gallery/qo8c4p
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IMVU is a treasure trive of unrealistic body proportions. reddit.com/gallery/phz6y6
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I love this artist, but sometimes they just do the weirdest body proportions. Today we have reverse legs
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Artists of reddit, what was/is the hardest body part to draw(proportions of them) for you?
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What's wrong with human male hands proportions to the other parts of the body?

I've always knew something is wrong with this model, so I went to the barber to check it out.
How are people ok with fact that human hands are bigger than their heads? (lets put the comically large sleeves topic aside for now) Just look at these

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Any tips to improve proportions? I think I have the motion of the body just fine but the legs and arms from all figures seem out of place - or if I'm wrong, please let me know
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Artists have always used canons of proportion, but not for the reasons you may think. Using them to get a figure to 'look right' is probably the newest, and most boring, reason to use one. thesculptorsfuneral.com/e…
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Whenever my artistic girlfriend is sad, I let her draw things on my body....

I gave her a shoulder to crayon.

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Like at this point I’m not even trying to be rude. But what is up with Trashcan’s joints, hands, feet and overall body proportions? She literally has zero wrist definition. reddit.com/gallery/rv97f5
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In August 2012 an episode of Syfy's 'Face Off' was aired - titled "Dishonorable Proportions." β€’ Competing special-effects artists used Dishonored concept art as inspiration for bringing a character to life through makeup and costuming. syfy.com/face-off/photos/…
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I'm not a competitive bodybuilder, but I would like to ask questions about the aesthetic proportions of my body.

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How often did Palpatine employ Body Doubles, as in this comic? What's the implication of this in Canon?
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He aged up like this πŸ₯³ gotta love sims body proportions reddit.com/gallery/s1mttb
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What is the most ridiculous body sensation you've blown out of proportion?

For me - it was a foot cramp that I thought was a blood clot

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Work in progress new hand carved wooden ball jointed doll. Detailing will be after adjusted and balanced the proportion of the body. Be a size smaller after all the adjustment is over. /Basswood with micro chisels
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Her dress FAIL & Moses’ reaction - Basically complains a black gown doesnt scream BRIDAL?!🀑Barely understands that not all dresses flatter all body types, especially those with unnatural proportions from surgery. Also admits she didnt give designers honest feedback, expected them to read her mind!πŸ₯΄ youtu.be/eGMhndw1AD0
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An artistic interpretation of "BLOCKED", please excuse the horrible proportions
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