Why is Domitian referred to as a "Nero" in Juvenal's Satires?

My understanding: Domitian was part of the Flavian dynasty and had no genetic ties to the Julian-Claudian dynasty which ended with Nero. So I'm a bit confused when the Satires of Juvenal says in Chapter 4:
"Rome was in bondage to Nero the Bald, (which has a side note specifying the reference to Domitian), before the home of Venus....

Source: https://www.secret-satire-society.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Juvenal-Sixteen-Satires.pdf

My physical copy of the satires read:

"And Rome was the slave of a Nero, the bald-headed tyrant Domitian..."
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Satires-Juvenal-Decimus-Junis-Juvenalis/dp/0253200202

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Evidence of the opinions of Domitian / Nerva / Trajan via the work of Martial (epigrams) or Juvenal (satires)

Hi all! I feel like both Martial and Juvenal were quite critical of roman society (Martial harped a bit more on the roles of people in different classes than Juvenal in my opinion, but they both used satire to make criticisms). Do you think that by critiquing and even poking fun at roman society they were also making a generalized opinion on the emperor ? Thanks in advance !

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Juvenal's "Satire 3" makes Rome and other classical cities look pretty unappealing. Were they really such miserable places, or is Juvenal wildly exaggerating? Would your average person have wanted to go live in the countryside if they could?
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'Bread and circuses' originates in a satire by Juvenal- was he satirizing the mob, the politicians appeasing the mob, or both?
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Juvenal Satire 1 Translation Help

Salve. I am currently translating Juvenal's Satire 1, and I have already run into difficulty in the second line. I am having trouble with the phrase "Theseide Cordi". Cordi could possibly either be cor, cordis, or it could be cordus, -a, -um. However, might that not be the case, seeing as it is capitalized? Also, I cannot find a translation for Theseide anywhere.

Gratias!

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How and why were Juvenal's Satires preserved and transmitted to us?

I assume that, like other Roman texts, they were preserved by a scholastic tradition, but why were Christian monks willing to record such a vitriolic and, at times, obscene author?

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TIL that mother-in-law jokes date back to Roman times: In Satire IV, the Roman author Juvenal jokes that "one cannot be happy while one's mother-in-law is still alive." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot…
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Relembrando Juvenal JuvΓͺncio: Um dos dirigentes mais loucos da HistΓ³ria do Futebol Brasileiro youtu.be/MhsgOMFqM98
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Online commentary for Juvenal

Salvete omnes: per the title, I’m looking for a digital commentary of the Satires to help explain grammatical and contextual idiosyncrasies. Being attached or hyperlinked to the Latin text of the poems would be cool, but not necessary. I’m currently reading the online Loeb edition which helps with historical explanations and the like, but doesn’t really touch on grammar help. Gratias ago.

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Juvenal 15 commentary

Does anyone know of a good commentary for Juvenal 15? I have the Cambridge commentary by Susanna Braund with 1-5 and I know they have another book with satire 6, but can anyone direct me towards a decent commentary that includes 15? Thanks!

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Halloween Costumes Day 13: β€œA rare bird in the lands and very much like a black swan”Juvenal. Odile the Black Swan from Swan Lake reddit.com/gallery/q7rzsk
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where can I find the text where the roman poet Juvenal discusses the problem with immigrants?

thanks in advance for your time and help

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September 6, 1985 - Azumah 'The Professor' Nelson finishes Juvenal Ordenes in round five. v.redd.it/feeb4vzy1wl71
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If I didn't know this person was serious, id think this is Brilliant satire
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I swear this isn't satire
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West of the Nile River near Luxor the Colossi of Memnon have been reported to sing at sunrise and sunset according to Strabo, Pliny, Pausanias, Tacitus, Philostratus and Juvenal
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I truly hope this is satire reddit.com/gallery/rv9okh
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😎😎😎 passem no Juvenal Côrtes v.redd.it/d6mx7d66xrr61
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Forgive me if this is insensitive due to what's happened this year but what are your thoughts on Juvenal Moise's policies? His wiki mentioned an emphasis on rural development and one post seemed to imply supporting provinces but perhaps pitting "provinces vs PAP."
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So the French think Paul Kagame assasinated Juvenal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira. Does anyone find this suspicious due to Francafrique?
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I really wish that sub was satire
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West of the Nile River near Luxor the Colossi of Memnon have been reported to sing at sunrise and sunset according to Strabo, Pliny, Pausanias, Tacitus, Philostratus and Juvenal
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This anti abortion satire reddit.com/gallery/sa8udr
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Juvenal Cortes 😳πŸ₯° v.redd.it/fkv9ws30gqf71
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[Perry] Admits he made up an Aaron Rodgers Quote for "satire" twitter.com/Lollardfish/s…
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Evidence of the opinions of Domitian / Nerva / Trajan via the work of Martial (epigrams) or Juvenal (satires)

Hi everyone! I posted this over on r/classics and a kind soul recommended I post it here as well. I feel like both Martial and Juvenal were quite critical of roman society (Martial harped a bit more on the roles of people in different classes than Juvenal in my opinion, but they both used satire to make criticisms). Do you think that by critiquing and even poking fun at roman society they were also making a generalized opinion on the emperor? Thanks in advance!

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