How come the Abbasids have the worst knights in the game when the Mamluk Sultanate had one of the best cavalry of all time?

The Abbasid Dynasty is a solid (if bugged) civ, there's no denying that. Yet, it seems that the Mamluk Sultanate period that they supposedly encompass alongside the Abbasid Caliphate itself is completely ignored gameplay wise: No "mamluk" units, the worst heavy cavalry in the game and an absurd focus on camel units that weren't actually a meaningful (if at all) part of any Arab army.

I don't even think a strong lancer would upset balance, as Abbasids are pretty much lacking any powerful cavalry unit, since the camel riders not only are bugged, but are only good against other cavalry and terrible against everything else. It seems kind of wasteful that so many cool unique techs are wasted on what's essentially a mounted spearmen (when the Abbasids already have the best spearmen in the game). I know "anti cavalry" is their thing, but they really don't need two versions of the same unit, specially when they counter and are countered by the exact same things.

I'm not even asking for a buff, they could easily nerf other thing to compensate, or find a non disruptive but flavorful way to include the Mamluk Sultanate aspect of the civ into the game, like in the form of a buff such as Boyar fortitude for the Rus. It just doesn't sit well with me that they represent an empire so notorious for their incredible heavy cavalry yet have the absolute worst knights in the game.

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Turkic Empire: The Rise of the Mamluk Sultanate! youtube.com/watch?v=rwRdJ…
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Hindu Resistance of Bengal against Mamluk Sultanate (Part 1)| Gaudeshwar Madhusen | Gaudiya Warriors youtube.com/watch?v=obdvQ…
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[Video] Rise of the Mamluk Sultanate! youtube.com/watch?v=rwRdJ…
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After almost 60 years of constant war, the Mamluk Sultanate has been destroyed and House Maris of Alwa has forged the Neo-Kushite Kingdom and the 40th Dynasty of Egypt while returning Christianity to the Nile.
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Hindu Resistance of Bengal against Mamluk Sultanate (Part 1)| Gaudeshwar Madhusen | Gaudiya Warriors youtube.com/watch?v=obdvQ…
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Thoughts on the Mamluk Sultanate?
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Flag of the Mamluk Sultanate but
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Map of the Mamluk sultanate in 1350 A.D.
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Flag of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt but it's that dog everybody likes
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[CLAIM] Mamluk Sultanate

The Mamluks failed to fight Tunis and contest the Caliphate back in 1504. The current leader is
Sayf ad-Din Tumanbay, Al-Malik al-Ashraf of Egypt, Syria, the Hejaz, Custodian of the Holy Cities of Jerusalem, Medina, and Mecca. Rife with internal divisions, a continually weakening political climate, and a pretty horrible army, I will try my hand to make this hurt for my enemies before they take me.

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The Mamluk sultanate in 1350 A.D.
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I made the Mamluk Sultanate today!
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Flag of Afghanistan if it were colonized by the Taliban IIWC by the LGBT community IIWC by the United Kingdom if they were inspired by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union IIWC by Libya (1977–2011) IIWC by the Mamluk Sultanate IIWC by the Confederate States of America
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Transportation throughout the Mamluk Sultanate
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What led to the collapse of the Mamluk sultanate in 1517?

In the little reading I've done, the Ottoman conquest of the Mamluk state (which reached as far as Diyarbekir in modern Turkey) is dealt with rather matter-of-factly. However, for such a massive state with a long-standing military tradition to just collapse is an odd occurence. What gives?

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What was life like for the average Mamluk soldier in the various Mamluk sultanates?

I'm not asking about the high ranking royal mamluks who would eventually become power players or rulers. I'm asking about the rank and file of the mamluk corps that often numbered above 10,000 at a time.

What was life like for them, were they treated as expensive slaves or did they still have a chance at social mobility and true social life?

How would the lives of those Christian (or otherwise non-Mulsim) boys go after they're sold in the faraway lands of Egypt and the Levant as slave soldiers?

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Flag of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt (1250–1517)
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Very cheeky mamluk Sultanate
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Booba of Today: Mamluk Sultanate (Aka Egypt) Which was created after the fall of the Ayyubid and then later conquered by the Ottoman Turks. Ottoman loves to hitting on her...This like a lil fanservice for all my Egyptian viewers i suppose. Anyway this is the Flat colred version.
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flag of mamluk sultanate but i put a spell on you so it conjures an image of ࢞
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Flag of the mysterious empire that invaded Poland if they were colonised by the Mamluk sultanate except it's the dog we like.
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Mamluk sultanate flag
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What if France won the Seven Years War - The Restored Mamluk Sultanate in 1795
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Mamluk Sultanate, but sus!
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the flag of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt. Notice anything?
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the flag of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt (1250–1517)
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Throwback to Mamluk Sultanate saving the muslim ummah
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Did the Ayyubids in Egypt become the Mamluk Sultanate or what happened?

So I was looking at random things on the internet and found the Ayyubid sultanate in Egypt (1171-1341) and then the Mamluk sultanate of Egypt (1250-1517) I wonder why these dates would collide as they had the same territory.

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the flag of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt (1250–1517)
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Mamluk Sultanate Sus (Based on u/bighat-logan's joke)
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The Mamluk Sultanate was centuries ahead of everyone with their flag design

Don't look their flag up though

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Did the Ayyubids in Egypt become the Mamluk Sultanate or what happened? reddit.com/r/AskHistorian…
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Mamluk Sultanate (OC) [8231x6079]
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. It was constructed in 1384-1386 CE (786 to 788 AH). It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian (Burji) dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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The Mamluk Sultanate of Rajasthan reddit.com/gallery/n5yyve
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WHEN THE FLAG OF THE MAMLUK SULTANATE IS SUS
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TIL in 1260, the christian crusader state of Jerusalem and the muslim Mamluk sultanate agreed to a truce to focus on the threat of Mongol invasion. The crusader state allowed a Mamluk army to pass through their territory in exchange for a discount on captured Mongol horses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra…
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. It was constructed in 1384-1386 CE (786 to 788 AH). It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian (Burji) dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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The Mamluk Sultanate of Rajasthan reddit.com/gallery/n5yxq1
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A Very Peculiar Institution: Military Slavery in the Mamluk Sultanate (Reuven Amitai) youtube.com/watch?v=lmwNq…
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. The complex was constructed in 1384-1386 with the dome added last. It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. It was constructed in 1384-1386 CE (786 to 788 AH). It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian (Burji) dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. The complex was constructed in 1384-1386 with the dome added last. It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. The complex was constructed in 1384-1386 with the dome added last. It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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Mosque-Madrasa of Sultan Barquq is a religious complex in Islamic Cairo, Egypt. The complex was constructed in 1384-1386 with the dome added last. It was the first architectural facility built during the time of the Circassian dynasty of Mamluk Sultanate.
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The Mamluk Sultanate flag looking a bit SUSSY
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