Anyone remember the MGM Grand Fire? It happened today in 1980

Construction of the 26-story MGM Grand Hotel and Casino (currently Bally's) started in 1972 and it opened in December of 1973. There were 2,078 rooms at the hotel and the total area of the hotel and casino was approximately two million square feet. Fire sprinkler systems were not installed in the high-rise hotel, the casino (approximately 380 by 1200 feet, or 450,000 square feet), and the restaurant areas. Only partial fire sprinkler protection was provided for limited areas (arcade, showrooms and convention areas) on the ground level.

According to the local newspaper articles of the time, despite pressure from the fire marshal during the construction (and even after the building occupancy), the owners fought installing the fire sprinklers. The articles indicate that, despite receiving a recommendation letter from one of their own consultants, Orvin Engineering Company indicated "the liability of all the unsprinklered areas in this building should be a concern to your corporation." Fred Benninger (MGM chairman at the time) decided against installing the fire sprinklers.

The total construction cost of the hotel was $106 million and apparently the owners deemed the $192,000 cost for the sprinkler installation not to be feasible. So they sought relief from the Clark County Building Department. The building director at that time, John Pisciotta, sided with the ownership and rendered a decision that the fire sprinkler requirements in their codes did not apply to the hotel and casino.

NFPA's 1981 Investigation Report on the MGM Grand Hotel Fire indicated that "The County Office of Building and Safety had primary responsibility for code enforcement during the construction phase of projects. The fire department did not have any building code enforcing authority. Reportedly, a system of on-site resident inspectors was used for the code enforcement procedure during the building process. These inspectors were hired by the Clark County Office of Building and Safety which, in turn, was reimbursed by the Hotel."

Despite the fire marshal's insistence that fire sprinklers should be installed throughout the building, as a result of the building official's favorable ruling, life safety and fire protection took a backseat to the owner's cost concerns, and they didn't install the fire sprinkler systems. According to the newspapers reports, NFPA's Fire Investigation Manager, David Demers, concluded that "with sprinklers, it would have been a one or two sprinkler fire, and

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The MGM Grand Fire in Las Vegas occurred on Nov 21, 1980 leading to 87 deaths and 700 injuries, making it the worst disaster in Nevada history, and the third-worst hotel fire in modern U.S. history
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40th anniversary of deadly MGM Grand fire.

On November 21, 1980 - the original MGM Grand (now Bally's) hotel casino was the scene of a terrible fire calamity that killed 85 people. The early morning fire was caused by an electrical ground fault inside a wall-mounted electrical receptacle for a cake display case in a ground floor deli.

The fire could have been brought under control by sprinklers if the hotel had installed them as had been recommended during construction. But they did not due to the additional $192,000 cost and the rationale that the casino floor would be occupied around the clock and any fire would be quickly observed and dealt with by security using fire extinguishers and hoses. Other short sighted design decisions, such as having locking doors on emergency stairwells, faulty smoke dampers in the air conditioning system and gaps in the elevator shafts allowed deadly smoke to rise through the hotel tower and kill scores of guests in their rooms, hallways and stairwells.

It was a grim tragedy for Las Vegas. Other casinos and citizens acted generously to offer whatever help and aid to hotel guests who survived the calamity. The lessons learned from this disaster prompted Nevada legislators to enact what are considered the most stringent fire code regulations for hotels in the country.

Wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Grand_fire

Feature article in Review-Journal today: https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/hell-on-earth-40-years-ago-a-historic-fire-at-the-mgm-grand-2181965/

National Fire Protection Association investigative report on MGM Grand Fire: https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/News-and-Research/Resources/Fire-Investigations/FIMGMGRAND.pdf

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Las Vegas: MGM Grand Fire 1980 vs Bally's 2019
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[Setlist Thread] 2021/10/31 MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, NV

Set I (8:04 PM - 9:21 PM):

Buried Alive (3), Roses Are Free (5), Ghost (26), Wolfman's Brother (10), Kill Devil Falls (12) > Free (8), David Bowie (12)

Set II (10:04 PM - 11:43 PM):

Knuckle Bone Broth Ave^(1,2,3,7) (14), Get More Down (10) > Egg In A Hole (5), Thanksgiving (5), Clear Your Mind (11), The 9th Cube^(4) (5), The Inner Reaches of Outer (4), Don't Doubt Me^(5) (13), The Unwinding (5), Something Living Here (9), The Howling^(6) (10), I Am In Miami^(7,8) (6)

Set III (12:20 AM - 1:16 AM):

Carini^(9) (13) > Lonely Trip (6), Soul Planet (14) -> Death Don't Hurt Very Long (3) > Twist (8), Drift While You're Sleeping (12)

Encore (1:20 AM - 1:33 AM):

Harry Hood (13)

Notes:

  • ^(0) All times PDT; Ticket Start Time: 7:30PM PDT
  • ^(1) Second set musical costume is 'Get More Down' by the Sci-Fi Soldiers (originals), band in spacesuit costumes; think 'SpaceHendge'.
  • ^(2) Trey playing an acrylic BC Rich Mockingbird guitar
  • ^(3) Mike & Trey dancing (choreographed)
  • ^(4) Cube with equations and math syntax floats down
  • ^(5) Trey's floating light cube ded, an ode to NYE 2019
  • ^(6) Pyrotechnics
  • ^(7) A capella, Trey on acoustic guitar
  • ^(8) Band is beamed down & back up in colored tubes.
  • ^(9) 'We are the Phish from the year 1-9-8-3'

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HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

And that's a wrap on Halloween, the run, and the tour! What a fun show to cap everything off -- it certainly ticked all the boxes for me. It's been a pleasure being your captain! Get some sleep, and I'll see you for the New Years run. Cheers everyone.

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In today's daily dose of Commodore Computer #Shorts, Commodore PET and staff help emergency services at one of the worst fires in US history, the MGM Grand, Las Vegas. youtu.be/49EOIojS2MU
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40 years ago today a disastrous fire started at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas damninteresting.com/fire-…
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[Setlist] 10-28-2021 ~ MGM Grand Garden Arena ~ Las Vegas, NV

TONIGHT THROUGH ALL HALLOW'S EVE, THE PHISH FROM VERMONT WILL ENGAGE IN AN OLD FASHIONED FREAK OUT OF THE INNOCENT, UNAWARE CITIZENS OF VEGAS. WATCH AS THE LIGHTS SHUTTER AND SPARK! FEEL THE VIBRATIONS PASSING THROUGH YOU! SMELL THE PATCHULI SCENTED MASSES! HEAR THE FUNK SIREN GO BWOOOOOOOOooooo BWOOOOOooooooo! CATCH ALL (SOME) OF THE ACTION HERE, WHERE WE FOLLOW ALONG AND DISCUSS THIS MOMENTOUS OCCASION WHILE WE WATCH AND LISTEN FROM AFAR!

Tonight's Agenda:

  • Doses: 5:00pm PDT
  • Doors: 6:30pm PDT
  • Show Time: 7:30pm PDT
  • (n) indicates approximate length of song in minutes. Send OP first set info.

Set I: (Start:8:08 , End: 9:23ish) 2001 > 1999 -> 555 -> 46 Days, Strawberry Letter 23, 20 Years Later

Set II: (Start: 10:01, End: 11:16 ) 7 Below (~6 Ο€) > If 6 was 9^(1) (~4.1 Ο€ ) > Five Years (~2.2 Ο€) > Two Versions of Me^(2) (~2.7 Ο€ ) > NO2 (~ Ο€ ) > Army of One (~1.4 Ο€ ) > My Sweet One (~.8 Ο€ ) > First Tube (~3.3 Ο€)> Character Zero (~2.5 Ο€)

Encore (show ends 11:32 pm): Backwards Down the Number Line^(3 ,) Grind II

Notes:

1 Jimi Hendrix cover from Axis: Bold as Love

2 435 show gap last played in '09

3 Much love to JoLo, he would have loved this. Aly and crew in Vegas, if you're reading this -- we love you :)

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Three official posters for this weekend: https://imgur.com/a/PUlobB7

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Good evening /r/phish! This is _terrapin_ coming back at you for my third setlist thread of the year. My first two were this summer for the Alpharetta run, and what a great time we had!

I think if there is one theme from this fall tour so far is, β€œexpect the unexpected.” I got to catch my third hometown Chula show and I am so grateful to have been there. Almost 7 years to the date from my first Phish show, where my cousin in New York sent me pit tickets in the mail and assured me I would have a good time. I’ve been β€œhooked” ever since. Get it…. Hooked?

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In today's daily dose of Commodore Computer #Shorts, Commodore PET and staff help emergency services at one of the worst fires in US history, the MGM Grand, Las Vegas. youtu.be/49EOIojS2MU
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2022 Grammy Awards relocated from crypto.com Arena to Las Vegas MGM Grand Arena

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Maybe it wasn't going to affect CRO or make a big impact anyways but it still sucks to lose that exposure

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2022 Grammy Awards move to MGM Grand on April 3 rollingstone.com/music/mu…
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Despite being the unified 168 lbs champ at 26 years old, Boxing "Pundits" picked Gullette to win by UD. In front of a sold out crowd at the MGM Grand in the fight capital of the world, "The Polish Prince" Mscislaw Warzycha silenced the critics and showed the promise of a long title reign. reddit.com/gallery/sfkbqt
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[Rafael] On the agenda of the Dec. 13 Nevada commission meeting there is a TGB Promotions date request for Jan. 29 at the MGM Grand to be televised on PPV. Per source involved, the request is for a Fox PPV card that would include Keith Thurman’s return in the main event. #boxing twitter.com/DanRafael1/st…
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Taking a trip to MGM Grand, what's the best Detroit style pizza place near the casino?

I'll be coming from Ohio so I suppose a spot on the way in or out would work as well. We want the epitome of Detroit style! Thanks in advance!

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Could the mgm grand Detroit be a hitman location? reddit.com/gallery/sgn7dj
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Last night Booker T's Reality of Wrestling became the first independent wrestling promotion to run a show from the MGM Grand. Show is currently scheduled to air tonight at 8 PM CT, and we'd love to have you all come check it out
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The MGM Grand Fire in Las Vegas occurred on Nov 21, 1980 leading to 85 deaths and 700 injuries, making it the worst disaster in Nevada history, and the third-worst hotel fire in modern U.S. history [x-post from /r/CatastrophicFailure] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…
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Need Help finding a true value for this. I have the Receipt of when it was purchased at the Viva Elvis store in Vegas at the MGM grand. reddit.com/gallery/rpusu3
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MGM Grand out of power since just after midnight.

Any idea why? I see it from across the way in my hotel.

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The MGM Grand Fire aftermath

This is a question for any old timers in the Forum.

After the 1980 fire at the original MGM Grand occurred, what was the Las Vegas community reaction and response to the incident? Was it as vigorous as the community response to the Route 91 aftermath last year?

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Gun Shot fired at MGM Grand google.com/amp/s/www.revi…
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From the MGM Grand fire in 1980
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Planning to stay in MGM Grand resort, any thoughts on the location?

I have never been to Las Vegas before, and not sure if my choice of resort is right.. want to make this trip as perfect as possible. I'm looking for some fun experience and something to remember (or not, depending on beverages xD )

Thank you in advance, Redditors !!

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Also on this day in 1980, a devastating fire broke out at Las Vegas's MGM Grand Hotel damninteresting.com/fire-…
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Stevie Wonder & Queen Latifah / Living For The City (1973) HD / VH1 Divas Duets / MGM Grand Las Vegas, 2003 youtu.be/dECfNbTHKps
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Tragedy revisited: Haunting black-and-white images capture deadly 1980 MGM Grand Hotel fire dailymail.co.uk/news/arti…
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Room with a view @ MGM Grand Las Vegas. [OC]
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Has anybody used 2 for 1 buffet vouchers more than once on the same weekend with the same account? I have a 2for 1 buffet voucher for belagio and mgm grand, wondering if I can cash in on them both on the same weekend
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Stevie Wonder & Newark's Queen Latifah / Living For The City HD / VH1 Divas Duets / MGM Grand Las Vegas, 2003 youtu.be/dECfNbTHKps
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Trey Rolling Up his Sleeves before Ghost 10/31/21 MGM Grand
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MGM Grand forever!
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Postponed Grammy Awards Moved To Las Vegas MGM Grand Garden Arena channelstv.com/2022/01/19…
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Tupac throwing dice at MGM Grand hours before he is shot (1996)
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Slipknot Mgm Grand Grden Arena

Does anyone know what the presale codes are?

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Do odds at physical sportsbooks mirror odds in the app? MGM Grand in Detroit specifically?

Do odds at physical sportsbooks mirror odds in the app? MGM Grand in Detroit specifically?

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Article (also in podcast form) detailing the events of the deadliest fire in Nevada history at the original MGM Grand in 1981. Killing 85 people. damninteresting.com/fire-…
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On this day in 1980 a disastrous fire struck the MGM Grand hotel in Las Vegas damninteresting.com/fire-…
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Nov 13 - MGM Grand in VEGAS 7-10pm - SAITAMASK LAUNCH

Get your moon boots ready. When you wake up tomorrow we might have dropped another 0

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[Setlist] 10-29-2021 - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, NV

Mods can delete this...starting it because there isn't one. Pretty official now.

Show: 7:30 PM PT

How's it going all?!? Hosting from my couch in MD...planning to stay up late for full show, hopefully I can hang! For those curious, I'm Page side rage side in my living room.

 

ALL TIMES PDT

 

SET 1 (8:06 - 9:20)

  • Olivia's Pool (5) ^1
  • Axilla Part II (21) ^2
  • Mike's Song (13)
  • I Am Hydrogen (2...ish)
  • Weekapaug Groove (12) ^3
  • Shade (5)
  • I Always Wanted It This Way (13) ^4

 

SET 2 (9:52 - 11:12)

  • Ass-Handed (6) ^5
  • Tweezer (19) ^6
  • Funky Bitch (7)
  • Reba (14) ^7
  • Sand (12) >
  • Tweezer (5) >
  • Sigma Oasis (7)
  • Walk Away (8) ^8

 

ENCORE (11:15 - 11:27)

  • Julius (8)
  • Tweezer Reprise (4) ^9

 

NOTES:

1: Days since last played = 838

2: "Don't shine that thing in my face man, no seriously"...all lights went dark. Banter followed, "Hello. How are you? We hope you have a good time"?

3: More "hello, how are you? we hope you have a good time" before the final hook of Weekapaug

4: Okay, that was awesome

5: Hyphen, or no? EDIT: Apparently phish.net says no, but I'm leaving it!

6: Including a jam full of teases

7: Yet another "Hello, how are you?"...and an Ass-Handed "reprise" at the end

8: More than just a cover, they're jamming this out pretty hard

9: Fuck and yes!

 

I feel like I should make a note, don't post links to unofficial streams in the comments. If you're looking for Miracles (I don't have any to give), keep it private

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