From a list of sports-themed films that follow plenty of clichés, a few films such as Warrior (2011) are as powerful (aside from the Rocky films) and possibly even close to being believable.

I can say that the Rocky films are increasingly influential and powerful on their themes even though they are the ones that mostly invented the clichés that we see in many sports films today (and it also has less favourable films like Rocky 3 to 5).

But I decided not to delve into this because I think that it is pretty obvious.

But after seeing the film 'Warrior' again, I realised what was it that really drove me to the film.

In many sports films, there is a theme of hope and motivation and inspiration for the characters who are trying to fight against the odds to climb through the ranks and overcome their obstacles, whether sports related or in their personal lives, and achieve their goals.

We are mostly aimed to support these characters and hope that they achieve their goals which they often do or are close to achieving them.

In this film, the structure is slightly different and the characters are portrayed in ways that appear more believable and complex. And in truth, the film stars two characters who are brothers and are both aiming for the same goal and both have a past that they still struggle with.

They both come from an abusive background whose father was recently learned to let go of the past and trying to make emands which also adds to the complexity of this character do because he knows that he did wrong but he is not sure if he also deserves a second chance.

Both brothers are fighting for believable means and not for personal gain. They are quite literally fighting for their lives, one because he does not want to lose his house, the other to give a person the money that he promised because his Marine colleague was killed in action and he is also on AWOL and trying to hide from the military police.

Both characters show complexities and you are not sure who to root for to get the prize money.

Yes, you have to suspend your belief that they managed to beat actual MMA athletes who literally have years of experience (then again, the characters have experience in this sport too). At the same time, the parallels between the struggles of the MMA sport and the struggles in real life, they feel quite real and a relatable theme about pushing through and overcoming obstacles but at the same time, not all obstacles can be that easy or possible to beat which relates to real life

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Darcey and Stacey: I don't think I can watch anymore!! The clichés are killing me!!! "Fight for love" "playing me for a fool" and the list goes on! It's like someone told them to make a whole show with only cliche lines. And this phone call of Darcey to Florian's mistress....!! He cheated!!
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'Bruised' review: Halle Berry's MMA directorial debut is a grueling mix of Sundance misery & Lifetime sports clichés theplaylist.net/bruised-r…
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List the tropes and clichés of 80s and 90s movies

Legal drama= has a young and/or inexperienced lawyer where the judge will allow him to make mistakes and will let the older and more experienced lawyer on the other side beat him up until the young lawyer finds his courage.

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Common tropes/cliché list

Here are a list of common tropes and clichés that I can think about and are annoying in my opinion. I may update this list in the future if I think about more and if I feel like it. You are welcome to add upon this list below.

  1. Arrogant young masters that feel the need to bully the MC out of ANYONE else.
  2. The MC always happens to be stupid and never appease their relationship with a potentially dangerous young master that can and will destroy him and his loved ones easily with his backing (but can't because of plot armor).
  3. Typical damsel in distress cliché with a jade beauty with skin like snow and porcelain that looks like it can be broken with a single touch (wtf) and the MC of course encounters that situation and for whatever reason has to save her. AND THEN, AND FUCKING THEN, SHE HAPPENS to have an extremely rare physique (Extreme Yin Physique and then of course the MC dual cultivates to get a power boost to fight some clan) or some bullshit secret power that is useful to the MC, or better yet, some secret background like a really strong clan but she is abandoned for whatever reasoned.
  4. "You're courting death!"
  5. "Let me kill you! It should be an honor for you to be killed by me!" (Arrogant Young Master)
  6. "You want me to stretch my head out for you to behead me!?" (MC)
  7. Of course you can't forget the audience in the background making fun of the MC and sucking up to the young master.
  8. After you kill or beat up the servant, the young master comes and then you kill him, and then the elder, and then the patriarch, and then the ancestor, and then the founder who happens to somehow still be alive by some ancient technique where you fall unconscious and your body is in a coma like state where you age really slowly but your body gets weaker over time of course.
  9. I would list some plot devices like the ring with an ancient expert grandpa soul inside, system, ancient cultivation technique, overpowered art, etc. but those can't really be called annoying unless done horribly.
  10. There's ALWAYS gotta be that one secret overpowered shady organization in the shadows that are controlling what's happening in the world. And then the MC has to deal with it from the beginning maybe, and all the way to the end until the MC annihilates them. Of course, there probably is some foreshadowing in the beginning that hints that there is a powerful secret organization in the background that's sketchy.
  11. In every sect, clan, affiliation the MC is in, there has
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My list of tropes and/or clichés, any missing?
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List of bad action movie clichés

I love me some action, and yet there are a bunch of things that seem like they're all over the genre that are just fucking stupid and bug me every time I see them. I'm not talking plot tropes or anything like that, I'm talking more isolated and, especially, technical things here.

  • Character fires last round of a mag, slide locks back, and they turn the gun to the side for a second to look at it, like the slide position doesn't tell them it's fucking empty.

  • Team enters an area and during their visual scan, they're literally aiming all over the goddamn place, even in the direction of their own teammates and other directions that they know no possible threat would be coming from. As though the actors were given such little direction in the scene "yeah, I want you scurry in here and just start pointing your gun in every conceivable random direction, that will convince people you know what you're doing."

  • Character points a gun at someone, then has a bit of dialog, and then, at some point, cocks the gun.

  • People repeatedly racking empty shotguns in scenes where they are preparing their weapons for an upcoming shootout.

  • Gun fights where the protagonist is besieged by other gunfighters... running at them, apparently under the impression that a gun is a melee weapon. This shit is all over the John Wick movies, but those are by no means the only offenders.

It's hard to unsee this type of shit once you notice it. There's way more, I just couldn't immediately think of it. I'm curious to see what else you nerds have noticed.

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A list of time travel fanfic clichés
  1. The shinobi world is about to end and so a character sacrifices themselves to send the protagonist back in time
  2. "Good golly, I'm 5/8/12 again!" *cue a self-assessment in the mirror*
  3. The protagonist hugs their parents tightly because they're so happy to see them alive again
  4. "Ooh my muscles are weak and my chakra reserves are laughable, better get a headstart"
  5. The protagonist, mentally 16 but physically 12, decides to romance their 12 y/o peer.
  6. "Holy shit, I'm in a genjutsu in which I've become 12 again. This must be a genjutsu. Must be. STAY AWAY FROM ME YOU FAKE GENJUTSU PERSON"
  7. Obviously, the best way for the protagonist to be discreet is by openly showing their maturity and superior ninja skills. The trained jonin sensei will eat that right up.

Feel free to make your own additions! :P

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Making a list of Wuxia/Xianxia clichés

I've recently had the idea of writing a wuxia/xianxia novel floating around in my head, one specifically designed to subvert the most hated clichés of the genre and to rationalize common tropes where possible, all while staying true to its roots.

To that end I would like to make a list of said cliches (specially those you hate), editing the post so as to make as extensive a list as possible. I'll start off with some that I can say off the top of my head:

  • Every girl is an earth-shattering beauty, and if described as such it's basically guaranteed that they'll end up showing affection for the MC, most likely becoming a part of the harem.
    • And while extensively describing the beauty of all of them with phrases such as "silky black hair", " thin jade-like figure", "white unblemished skin", etc. her actual appearance is never properly explained, making it so that the looks of every beauty in the book are basically interchangeable, with no trace of individuality.
  • Beings that have lived for hundreds or thousands of years showing the intellect and/or maturity of a teenager.
  • Mandatory aphrodisiac-induced sex.
  • The godly timing of the MC that allows him to arrive at the last second of a fight to save the day, get somewhere precisely when a hidden realm opens, or a big auction is being held, or basically any and all important events that just so happen to fall into the MC's lap.
  • MC starting off as "trash" or crippled and suddenly becoming a heaven-defying genius.
  • Every character with the least bit of authority being arrogant as hell just to be shocked by the MC. You'd really think that in a world of "crouching tigers and hidden dragons", where age, appearance and even cultivation can be masked, treating everyone like ants without having prior knowledge of their background is asking for trouble.
  • Inconsistent personality/intellect. The MC is described as smart only to act as an idiot when the author needs him to to force plot through. Personality suffers the same illness, with one-dimensional supporting characters and supposedly badass MC's being wimps outside of battle scenes, for example.
  • Some stair like structure where it becomes difficult the higher you climb and MC for some reason cruises through it. (u/Os0r3)
  • People doubting the MCs power despite all evidence. The MC could defeat 50 people at once of the same cultivation on stage, then arrogant young master will jump up and challenge him, somehow thinking he's trash, when it's obvious th
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List of clichés in this sub.

I read this subreddit from time to time and I find it is always generally full of the same type of posts.

I thought it might be amusing to make a list of the most common types. Post comments and i'll compile it all into a formal list for reference.

(also clichéd responses to comments within a post are welcome)

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If it was someone's first day exploring this sub, what are some of the memes/clichés they should be on the lookout for?

I'll start.

Whenever there's an NCAA violation of any kind, it's always Mizzou's fault

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What's your least favorite sports commentator cliché phrase?
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My list of artists cliché when they draw our girls
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[Mail Sport] Aston Villa are considering a bid for wantaway Everton left back Lucas Digne... Villa want experience alongside their relatively young defence and 28-year-old Digne is on their list of options. dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo…
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[Boston Sports info] Entire list of rookie QB's, in NFL history, with : Wins ≥ 10 | TD Passes ≥ 20 | Passing yards ≥ 3,500 | Cmp% ≥ 67.0% | Mac Jones Dak Prescott END OF LIST
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The Big List of SGI Buzzwords, Catchphrases, and Clichés!

You know them.

You know them all.

By heart and by rote!

We joke about them.

These substitute for conversation within SGI, where people simply repeat them at each other in sequence.

It's time to MAKE THE LIST!!!

I'll start - in no particular order (we can rearrange it later):

  • Kosen-rufu
  • Human revolution
  • Behind the scenes
  • Karma
  • Karma coming out
  • Fundamental darkness
  • Three obstacles and four demons (sansho shima)
  • Esho funi (life is reflected in its environment)
  • Self-responsibility
  • Daimoku
  • Fighting daimoku
  • President Ikeda
  • OUR President Ikeda
  • Ikeda Sensei
  • President Ikeda says...
  • Bodhisattvas of the earth
  • From the infinite past
  • From the time of kuon ganjo
  • Turning poison into medicine (hendoku iyaku)
  • Winter always turns into spring
  • Lions
  • Roaring lions
  • Foxes
  • Barking foxes
  • Dogs
  • Icchantika
  • People of incorrigible disbelief
  • Hell of incessant suffering
  • Punishment
  • The Universe
  • The Gohonzon
  • Gohonzon knows
  • Sensei is chanting for you
  • Sensei is chanting for us
  • Thank you, Sensei
  • Benefit
  • Benefit of the Gohonzon
  • In lifetime after lifetime
  • Changing karma into mission
  • My mission
  • My mission in life
  • Making the impossible possible
  • Never give up
  • No matter what
  • Changing my/your destiny
  • Unity
  • Four divisional unity
  • Four divisional leadership
  • Follow
  • Sensei
  • Follow Sensei
  • Disciples
  • Sensei's disciples
  • District
  • Discussion meetings
  • District discussion meetings
  • Focus on the districts
  • The youth must lead
  • Youth
  • Youth in the lead
  • Youthful spirit
  • Happiness
  • True happiness
  • A diamond-like state of indestructible happiness
  • Joyful
  • Joy
  • Enjoy your practice
  • Gongyo
  • Powerful gongyo
  • Chanting like a galloping horse
  • Compassion
  • Deep compassion
  • Strict compassion
  • Guidance
  • Strict guidance
  • Home visits
  • Noble
  • Noble youth
  • Noble lions

Okay - YOUR turn!!

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[CBS Sports] List of players in NFL history with 3,000 receiving yards in their first 2 seasons: - Justin Jefferson END. OF. LIST. twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/s…
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Found a list of 500+ cliché phrases first uploaded in 1999 by a suspense novelist and updated over the years.

Came across a reference to this dataset in a paper and thought it was an interesting find. The paper had used this dataset as a feature for detecting computer-generated text, but there are probably other interesting things that might be done with it.

The original list can be found here. It's a fairly old website, but it's still working at the time of writing.

I've made a computer-ready copy without HTML formatting available on GitHub here.

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full list of overused commentary clichés

inspired by bad moon rising 2 i decided to compile a list of all of the most overused cliches used in commentary. i have also made a bingo board out of this that you can check out here so you can host super cool melee viewing parties with lots of alcohol and play bingo:

bingo drinking game

  1. (whenever someone is down a stock) “he needs this stock to come back”

  2. (whenever someone is down a stock pt 2) “it’s still doable”

  3. (whenever someone is up a stock) “he has SO much momentum right now”

  4. (whenever westballz is playing) “you know, contrary to popular belief, westballz is actually a very DEFENSIVE player” “wow really i did not hear that before” -> someone who has heard that before

  5. “Nice (move)”

  6. (whenever someone is playing ice climbers and nana dies) “you know, chudat is one of the best sopos alongside fly amanita, let’s see what he can do”

  7. “He read him like a (reference to anything literature related)”

  8. “oops! Commentator’s curse haHahhahaHha oOpS!”

  9. “One stock is not a lead!”

  10. (whenever someone gets hit by fox up-b) “sakurai!!” “-forced laughter from other guy-”

  11. "you know, (move) has only (made up frame data) amount of frames" "wow really?" -> doesn't seem right but won't contest it for the sake of the stream

  12. (whenever a falcon is behind) "but you know, falcon can take a HIT"

  13. (character gets hit off stage and is about to die) "ohhhhh that's it" (character lives) "omg he lived!"

  14. (any ditto) "this matchup is SO volatile, anything can happen"

if i'm missing something please let me know so i can make a 5x5 bingo board thanks for your time

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I'm compiling a list of clichés, so far I have 400+. Surely I missed something you all didn't, so tell me what I might have missed!
  1. He's right behind me, isn't he?
  2. [Horror] Ascending tone
  3. This couldn't possibly get any worse! (rain)
  4. Moon transition
  5. [Trailer] IN A WORLD
  6. Cgi earth zoom
  7. [Spy] Location text
  8. We aren't so different, you and I
  9. [Horror] Black guy dies first
  10. [Horror] masked guy head tilt
  11. Whatcha Say
  12. Family breakfast
  13. Eyes rolling back in head
  14. Bullet knockback
  15. [Action] - Particularly The Walking Dead Infinite ammunition for guns
  16. It was all a dream
  17. High Schooler Tripping while running drops books
  18. Romantic Accidental hand touching
  19. [Superpower] Radiation superpowers
  20. Woman manipulating with looks
  21. Horror Creepy music box
  22. Horror Creepy little girls singing
  23. Chosen one prophecy
  24. Love triangle
  25. Horror Knock knock door opens
  26. Horror Door closes itself once inside
  27. Shows clock changing to convey time
  28. Horror House on ancient burial ground
  29. Sports Team loses until final game
  30. Attractive person slow-mo entrance
  31. I've got a bad feeling about this...
  32. High School Cheerleader dates quarterback
  33. You're a genius! I am?
  34. I never told you...
  35. Cell phone no reception
  36. Raining funeral
  37. Horror Disappear off camera
  38. Horror Seemingly dead person is actually alive jumpscare
  39. We don't have to fight
  40. Horror Creepy kids aren't scared of bad guy
  41. Scream echo sound effect
  42. Horror Dog/pets die
  43. Romance Girl gets cold guy gives her sweater
  44. Dialogue Reverse shot
  45. Live studio audience
  46. Celebrity cameo
  47. News montage opening
  48. Basements (eg. Home Alone)
  49. Horror Couple dies
  50. Just in time
  51. Horror Fake jumpscares (refrigerator)
  52. Car slide over hood
  53. Bollywood ending
  54. Almost kiss; interruption
  55. Courtroom Drama (Bee Movie)
  56. Earthquake glass of water
  57. Flashback nostalgia filter (overexposure)
  58. Face close up (head to head match)
  59. Romance Opposites attract
  60. Romantic leads Cross paths but don't interact
  61. Comic relief + plot device = supporting character (Jar Jar)
  62. Spaceship simulates gravity
  63. Humanoid aliens
  64. Record scratch
  65. Bead of sweat
  66. Crickets at night
  67. The call's coming from inside the house
  68. TV channel flip message
  69. That's just great
  70. Flickering lights
  71. Food chain showed by animals eating each other
  72. Highway honking
  73. Late for something; reason out of control
  74. Villain's face hidden
  75. Villain has hideous scar
  76. Villain strokes cat
  77. Mad Scientist
  78. Villain explain
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CM Punk in interview: "anybody making fun of that [crying] dude, yeah you're making fun of me, too", lists sports moments that have made him cry.

Apologies if this has already been posted but I didn't see it. Full quote below.

> Interviewer: I texted you Saturday morning and I said, dude there are people on TV sobbing that you're back, what does that mean to you when you see the outpouring of affection for you? > > CM Punk: I'm a Chicago guy, I'm a Chicago sports guy. I cried when the Cubs won the World Series. I cried when the Blackhawks won the Cup. (The time I was alive when they won the cup, not back in the 60's.) You know, it means a lot and I think it means a lot because I'm so attached to Chicago and sports especially, you know. I understand. So anybody making fun of that dude, yeah you're making fun of me too, you know, like there's nothing wrong with being emotional at sporting events or anything you like, you know? Like, I'll cry at a Marvel movie!

-Kap & J. Hood Show on ESPN (Starts at around 25:00 mark)

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I know "the book was better than the movie" is a huge cliché, so I'm curious if anyone can name an example of a movie being better than the book.

It's a cliché for a reason. I can easily name a dozen examples off the top of my head where the book was better than the movie. I realized though that I've never read a book that was adapted into a movie where I enjoyed the movie more. I'm curious if anyone has an example that goes against the norm. Obviously this would only be your opinion.

Edit: remind me to never make a post that could possibly get over 4k replies again. My poor inbox.

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Most searched Indian personalities on Google this year. Although I'm glad so many of our sport stars made to the list, kundra was definately a surprise and not a good one. What's your take one this ?
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Though the Rocky films are the ones that sparks the themes and clichés that we commonly see in sports films, they are still quite as influential, inspirational and possibly even relatable especially that the series has also evolved with the characters.

The Rocky series is pretty straight forward. They created themes that we commonly see in sports films about inspiration, persistence and grit and spirit and they inspired many people.

The theme of an average citizen or even a nobody can still achieve what he is aiming for if he works hard enough, then anybody can. It is a classic American dream story.

Yes, in the first film, Rocky was lucky that he was picked by Creed but at the same time, few people believed in him but he pushed through. Not even he believed that he can achieve what he wanted to achieve but his aim was to 'go the distance'.

And the story of the first film truly reflects on Stallone's story before the Rocky series took off as the legend goes that he sold his dog to earn money to produce the film and wrote the script in only a few days (he got the dog back, at least that is what the internet says).

And the themes of struggle and persistence cab also be reflected to Rocky's personal life which can be reflected to that of the audience - such as Rocky struggling with his occupation and future, trying to woo Adrian and confront her slightly difficult brother, tackling self-doubt and learning how to tackle life issues effectively such as whether to punch through or use delegation as Rocky is known as a humble man even though he is a fighter.

And as the series continues, so do its characters like Rocky wanting a personal life with Adrian, slowly learning how to read and earn a decent education and overcoming other struggles.

Yes, the third, fourth and fifth films were the ones where the series took a different turn and probably embraced the cheesy and cliche nature of the films like Rocky running on the seaside with Creed in slow motion or the training montage in Rocky 4.

But even after that, the series continued to evolve like Rocky being much older in Rocky 6 and having to come to terms that things in life do not last forever. He is happy but still as human and struggled with loss and grief such as his wife's death and being estranged from his son. But he wanted one last chance to push through once again.

And in the Creed films, we see Rocky transitioning through the struggles of life such as being estranged from his son again and dealing with cancer while being a mentor to Creed's son but making sure that he does not do the same mistakes that Creed or Rocky did.

The themes in this series is common and take the form of many shapes. But at the same time, the theme of fighting and the e

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Aloha friendly friends,I am looking for Pokémons catch with Safari Ball or Sport Ball. I can trade these exact same Individual values, full egg moves Axew in Safari Ball. 7 of them have Unnerve Ability and the rest are having Mold Breaker Ability. Please list whatever you are ok to trade,thank you!! reddit.com/gallery/rvmth6
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I made a tier list of the stage songs from Mario Sports Mix
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[Nania] Being honest would be awful. No coach/player would want to work for a GM who publicly criticizes people in the organization. That's why absolutely nobody in sports gives their honest thoughts at a press conference. They just say the clichés and leave because that's what's best. twitter.com/Michael_Nania…
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[Boston Sports Info] Hunter Henry Patriots TE’s to have ≥ 7 receiving TD’s thru the first 10 games of the season Hunter Henry Rob Gronkowski - 4x Ben Coates END OF LIST twitter.com/bostonsportsi…
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👤︎ u/skyskr4per
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I know it’s so cliché but I really don’t get tired of sunsets and snow v.redd.it/f6vjxzmue5a81
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👤︎ u/MessyGuy01
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The Game Winner for Disney+? Slapping Down the Sports Clichés. nytimes.com/2021/05/27/ar…
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'It's a really big deal for us': An all-time list of the best songs used in the EA Sports NHL series theathletic.com/2835236/2…
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My favorite exchange in DBZA: Goku one of the few people to offer a retort to the lame 'now who's the villain' cliché youtu.be/U3XpJNTAiH4?t=81
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A comprehensive (and honest) list of UX clichés uxdesign.cc/a-comprehensi…
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👤︎ u/bogdanelcs
📅︎ Feb 27 2019
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On the risk of being very cliché,
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Kendal Briles Reported as in Top 4 of Potential Candidate Lists for Next Texas Tech Football Coach - Best of Arkansas Sports bestofarkansassports.com/…
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[Alex English] Can't say I am not disappointed for not being included on the 75th anniversary team after seeing the list. I felt the same after the first list of 50. I have always known that my understated style wasn't conducive to being associated with such a flamboyant sport /r/nba/comments/qdkr8w/al…
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👤︎ u/JakeJacob
📅︎ Oct 22 2021
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Making a list of Wuxia/Xianxia clichés

I've recently had the idea of writing a wuxia/xianxia novel floating around in my head, one specifically designed to subvert the most hated clichés of the genre and to rationalize common tropes where possible, all while staying true to its roots.

To that end I would like to make a list of said cliches (specially those you hate), editing the post so as to make as extensive a list as possible. I'll start off with some that I can say off the top of my head:

  • Every girl is an earth-shattering beauty, and if described as such it's basically guaranteed that they'll end up showing affection for the MC, most likely becoming a part of the harem.
    • And while extensively describing the beauty of all of them with phrases such as "silky black hair", " thin jade-like figure", "white unblemished skin", etc. her actual appearance is never properly explained, making it so that the looks of every beauty in the book are basically interchangeable, with no trace of individuality.
  • Beings that have lived for hundreds or thousands of years showing the intellect and/or maturity of a teenager.
  • Mandatory aphrodisiac-induced sex.
  • The godly timing of the MC that allows him to arrive at the last second of a fight to save the day, get somewhere precisely when a hidden realm opens, or a big auction is being held, or basically any and all important events that just so happen to fall into the MC's lap.
  • MC starting off as "trash" or crippled and suddenly becoming a heaven-defying genius.
  • Every character with the least bit of authority being arrogant as hell just to be shocked by the MC. You'd really think that in a world of "crouching tigers and hidden dragons", where age, appearance and even cultivation can be masked, treating everyone like ants without having prior knowledge of their background is asking for trouble.
  • Inconsistent personality/intellect. The MC is described as smart only to act as an idiot when the author needs him to to force plot through. Personality suffers the same illness, with one-dimensional supporting characters and supposedly badass MC's being wimps outside of battle scenes, for example.
  • Some stair like structure where it becomes difficult the higher you climb and MC for some reason cruises through it. (u/Os0r3)
  • People doubting the MCs power despite all evidence. The MC could defeat 50 people at once of the same cultivation on stage, then arrogant young master will jump up and challenge him, somehow thinking he's trash, when it's obvious th
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