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Isegye Idol Song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSXAKsq-Vo

This is the place to talk about Isegye Idol, whom are Korean Virtual Idols with uprising popularity (in Korea). Feel free to join!

Last week I was searching for an article covering this and I couldn't find any so I decided to make the search myself and why not share. If there's actually one out there then I wasted my time but I'm young, it's fine. If any of these are wrong please point it out so I can edit (same for groups I forgot), there were only so many numbers I could look at before my brain faded into nothingness. Of note:

1 • These numbers are mostly from last week minus Ive (which just debuted), and a couple others which I forgot;

2 • I'm not including 1st gen groups because it's counterproductive for a chart that wasn't a thing while they were around;

3 • I seems like the system only took off somewhere around 2014-15 so keep that in mind while looking at the numbers because the biggest hits from before this period simply don't have that many likes and 2nd gen songs released post 2014 are higher than their most famous ones.

~ 500K

• Spring Day + BTS: 552,654

~ 300K

• Ko Ko Pop + EXO: 333,600
• Love Scenario + iKon: 313,378
• Energetic + Wanna One: 301,180

~ 200K

• Rollin + Brave Girls: 289,704
• Missing You + BTOB: 265,413
• Really Really + Winner: 247,147
• Ddu-Du Ddu-Du + Blackpink: 242,664
• Red Flavor + Red Velvet: 239,629
• Next Level + Aespa: 225,830
• Cheer Up + Twice: 223,662
• Flower Road + BIGBANG: 206,331

~ 100K

• Dolphin + Oh My Girl: 193,693
• Downpour + I.O.I: 182,841
• Starry Night + Mamamoo: 176,183
• Rough + GFriend: 170,761
• Because It's Christmas + VIXX: 164,553
• Nice + Seventeen: 162,218
• Dalla Dalla + Itzy: 161,082
• Im Fine Thank You + Ladies' Code: 146,948
• Why So Lonely + Wonder Girls: 144,236
• Latata + G-Idle: 135,021
• ASAP + StayC: 134,180
• View + SHINee: 133,056
• Hello + NU'EST: 131,510
• On Rainy Days + BEAST: 129,211
• La Vie En Rose + IZ*ONE: 127,634
• Journey To Atlantis + Laboum: 126,774
• Her + Block B: 125,198
• Kick It + NCT 127: 124,820
• Hot Sauce + NCT Dream: 115,897
• Shine + Pentagon: 112,957
• Goodbye Summer + f(x): 111,809
• I’m So Sick + Apink: 110,945
• Run Away + TXT: 101,196

~ 90K — 10K

• Party + SNSD: 93,689
• Heart Attack + AOA: 90,778
• Boss + NCT U: 88,629
• Loving U + Sistar: 88,569
• Ah-Choo + Lovelyz: 87,795
• Only You + Miss A: 87,735
• Come Back Home + 2NE1: 79,966
• Lalalilala + April: 77,921
• Flash + X1: 77,795
• My House + 2PM: 72,845
• The Chaser + Infinite : 71,334
• Darling + Girls' Day: 69, 823
• You Are + GOT7: 65,311
• Must Have Love + Brown Eyed Girls: 64,096
• Breathe +

Hey everyone!

The year is coming to a close and the Gaon Digital Chart just updated for the last time in 2021 so I'm here to share some chart data with you guys (just like last year).

The data should be more accurate this year as I started using a database to compile these tables. I created this db to use on my own chart data website, which also contains summaries for all the previous Gaon years (warning, the site's still very much a work-in-progress lol).

I also made a video showing all the Idol Group songs that charted in Gaon's Top 40 in 2021, which you can watch here.

Anyway here's all Idol Groups that charted in South Korea this year and their songs.

ARTISTS

Here are all groups that managed to top the chart in the last year.

MOST WEEKS AT #01

Brave Girls, NCT DREAM and OH MY GIRL all earned their first #1 songs this year! Meanwhile BTS got their 8th.

Two more groups reached #1 this year than in 2020, but the #1s from last year spent more total weeks at the top (12 weeks vs 15 weeks).

I should probably also mention aespa here, who got blocked twice from going #1 this year with Next Level and Savage. Both songs topped Gaons streaming chart but got blocked by songs with higher download numbers. Savage in particular even got a Perfect All-Kill on the ichart.

Funfact: The four #1s of the year all followed one another (Brave Girls in week 19, NCT DREAM in week 20, OH MY GIRL in week 21 and BTS in week 22).

MOST WEEKS IN THE TOP 10

I guess this is barely related to kpop but it's cool nonetheless

So this youtuber/ streamer named wakgood (우왁굳) held an idol competition in vrchat. This virtual "produce 101" wasn't drama inducing or shit like that, but definitely more light hearted and fun.

So now the final group got formed, its name being isegye idols, and their new MV came out recently! And.....I actually like the music! It's addicting, especially the chorus. All the members are sooo good at singing (they belt all those high notes like damn). Also can we talk about the MV visuals? Considering that everything was filmed in vrchat, it's pretty impressive (idk much about vr chat though).

And no, this shit didn't flop. This isn't like some middle schoolers got together to upload a lazy mv for a couple hundred views. This creator of this group (wakgood) is arguably one of the most popular streamers in Korea. The mv itself gained a lot of views, the members gained a lot of followers, and the music charted no1 on bugs at one point. So pretty much, Isegye idol is currently a huge talk within the Korean gaming/streaming community.

To be honest, I wonder if this group would become popular internationally at some point. Virtual streamers ( like hololive) is a huge thing right now, even in the west. Just a thought.

++For anyone who uses vr chat, I want to ask if the mv is high quality/well made?

Honestly, I love Korean songs and I enjoy listening to various songs by various groups but the toxicity of fans and anti-fans are truly disgusting. People are always shaming the groups they dislike, do you really not have anything better to do? I mean if you don't like someone or something, then distance yourself from it. Don't spread hate or negativity because you don't know how what you do and say could affect people, especially in this day and age where people are dealing with so many mental issues(artists included).I guess I just wanted to rant about how people are always giving hate speech towards others, I was just on Twitter and saw an article saying how a few Korean groups are on the global charts, rather than being happy that Kpop Is finally getting recognition and showing how happy you are for your favorite, people are bashing groups like BTS, btw I'm no army, I enjoy music from various different Korean artists and groups and I find it admirable how they're always so respectful towards each other( kpop groups I mean now) but thier fans( NOT ALL) seriously have issues since they're always trying to find problems with certain groups because of whatever reason. I seriously wish I could go back to when I just listened to OST because there was no hate or anything, well not as much as how their are with kpop groups.

Guys, the reason why I'm so disgusted by this is not because people dislike them or a song. It's normal, you don't have to like everyone or everything that others do but please have a limit and be respectful as to what you say about them. So the tweet I saw, I just checked this persons account put this person claims to be an army but then goes ahead to post bts is racist and such, like how even

really random, but i was sitting in my accounting class one day and instead of paying attention to my teacher explaining owner's equity accounts, i was doodling. doodling eventually turned to writing random words in cursive and that eventually got me here. so, here's a very obscure compliment for random groups and idols i want to share with you all.

- everglow, i don't stan them or know much about them aside from some of their songs. but dear god do i love writing their name in cursive the most. i love how it flows the smoothest. no matter what, i always manage to write 'everglow' nicely, which is a pretty big deal for someone like me who has the penmanship of a doctor.

it's just s m o o t h . give it a go for yourself right now, you'll be satisfied i let you know of this piece of information. write the 'e' then make it's tail swoop up then sink down again for the 'v', a tiny curve into the next 'e' like it's a loop then the 'r' and then my personal favourite part, the 'glow' portion. so loopy and fun.

- blackpink itself is a pain in the ass because of that 'k', but each of their individual names are fun. i like jennie's the most because of the two 'n's in the middle. rose and lisa are fun because capital 'R's and 'L's are fun, 'L's have 2 loops so that's why. i guess i like 'R's just because my own signature starts with a capital 'R'. jisoo has the double 'o's at the end, and 'J's are also pleasant to write because you can loop them.

- seungmin. i know there's probably like a dozen seungmins in the industry, but i don't think it matters too much which one you think of? i think about the stray kids one. i don't know why, this name just has no offensive letters. all nice, round and fun to write because you loop a lot of them and they just kind of swing right into each other.

- enhypen, haha loopy 'y'. that's it. that's literally it. any name with a 'y' and no hard letters gets a pass from me. bonus points to enhypen for the 'h'.

anyways. that's all i wanted to share. bye.

Hi r/AskAnthropology,

A few years ago I read a fascinating chapter by Patrick Galbraith on Japanese idol group. I'm currently trying to find access to his edited book on that subject; in the mean time, I would love to know if anthropologist here is familiar with the studies of celebrity culture (not sure if I used the proper term) and perhaps could help direct me towards readings on this subject?

Thank you very much in advance!

I want to know more about most kpop groups/idols/artist that people loves.

So please give me 2 MAIN ATTRIBUTES ON WHY YOU ULT THEM/HIM/HER

Example for me:

BG: Seventeen= Self-producing (composing, choreo, fanchant, merch, music video, variety show concept, and even their own dating scandal was self-produced) + Performance Powerhouse (they always perform something unexpected plus the synchronization was insanely satisfying)

ARTIST: Lee Hi = Song lyrics hits so hard that can always be relatable to me + Emotional voice

Edit: added further descriptions

~Glad to know that these groups/artist makes people so happy so I wanted to spread their appreciation without negativity :)

• 1- Ilhoon (BTOB) - 102 songs - (2011-Present).
• 2- Minhyuk (BTOB) - 91 songs - (2011-Present).
• 3- Bang Chan (Stray Kids) - 87 songs - (2018-Present).
• 4- Bobby (iKON) - 83 songs (2014-Present).
• 5- Changbin (Stray Kids) - 80 songs - (2018-Present).
• 6- Han (Stray Kids) - 75 songs (2018-Present).
• 7- B.I (iKON) - 66 songs - (2014-Present).
• 8- Peniel (BTOB) - 55 songs - (2011-Present).
• 9- Hyunsik (BTOB) - 46 songs - (2011-Present).
• 9- Hongjoong (ATEEZ) - 46 songs - (2018-Present).
• 11- Mingi (ATEEZ) - 45 songs - (2018-Present).
• 12- Zuho (SF9) - 34 songs - (2016-Present).
• 13- Hwiyoung (SF9) - 28 songs - (2016-Present).
• 14- Sunwoo (The Boyz) - 26 songs - (2017-Present).
• 15- Youngbin (SF9) - 25 songs - (2016-Present).
• 16- Chani (SF9) - 13 songs - (2016-Present).
• 17- Changsub (BTOB) - 11 songs - (2011-Present).
• 17- Eric (The Boyz) - 11 songs - (2017-Present).
• 19- Felix (Stray Kids) - 9 songs - (2018-Present).
• 19- I.N (Stray Kids) - 9 songs - (2018-Present).
• 21- Hyunjin (Stray Kids) - 8 songs - (2018-Present).
• 21- Seungmin (Stray Kids) - 8 songs - (2018-Present).
• 23- Lee Know (Stray Kids) - 7 songs - (2018-Present).
• 24- Sungjae (BTOB) - 6 songs - (2011-Present).
• 25- June (iKON) - 5 songs - (2015-Present).
• 26- Eunkwang (BTOB) - 4 songs - (2011-Present).
• 26- Haknyeon (The Boyz) - 4 songs- (2017-Present).
• 26- Jacob (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- Hyunjae (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- Juyeon (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- Kevin (The Boyz) - 4 songs- (2017-Present).
• 26- Q (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- New (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- Sangyeon (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 26- Younghoon (The Boyz) - 4 songs - (2017-Present).
• 36- DK (iKON) - 3 songs - (2015-Present).
• 36- Jaeyoon (SF9)- 3 songs - (2016-Present).
• 36- Yoo Taeyang (SF9) - 3 songs - (2016-Present).
• 39- Jay (iKON) - 2 songs - (2015-Present).
• 39- Dawon (SF9) - 2 songs - (2016-Present).
• 39- Inseong (SF9) - 2 songs - (2016-Present).
• 39- Seonghwa (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 39- San (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 39- Yunho (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 39- Yeosang (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 39- Wooyoung (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 39- Jongho (ATEEZ) - 2 songs - (2018-Present).
• 48- Rowoon (SF9) - 1 song - (2016-Present).
• 49- Song (iKON) - 0 songs - (2015-Present).
• 49- Ch

This question was sparked from NCT 127's recent appearance on James Corden where Mark paused the interview to have the group do their introduction first: https://youtu.be/wtSQLUI6l-Q

But it's a question I've had for a while, stemming all the way back to when Psy was not able to do his intro on Ellen and he asked to do it: https://youtu.be/QZmkU5Pg1sw

So I'm curious to know why it's important for them to do their prepared introductions on every show, even going out of their way to make sure it happens, even if it means interrupting the flow of the conversation.

I've noticed most Korean programs always begin with group (and usually individual) introductions, and this hadn't caught on with American talk shows until more recently - usually the host would just introduce them and then they come on and go right into the interview.

I guess the other part of the question is - then where did this intro/greeting practice stem from? Has it always been a part of the idol culture in Korea?

 

The title says it almost all and it's also tl;dr of this post which will be a wall of text.

This post will be a wall of text.

You have been warned.

There is no merit in calling the music of BTS BTS-pop, if it is an attempt of making unique features and achievements of BTS (as distitct from many other Korean idol groups) recognized by wide audience and general public - primarily in the west.

That is akin to calling the movies by a Korean film director Bong Joon-ho "Bong-movie" and arguing "No. Parasite and other movies by Bong Joon-Ho are not Korean movies because the genre is Bong-film!", in an attempt and effort of making Bong's unique achievemts (as distinct from other Korean movie directors) broadly recognized and known in the US, so as to make Parasite compete with mainstream Hollywood movies for the Academy awards.

It's silly, if not worst possible toxic way.

Any sane person - be it American or not - would rather argue "A good movie is a good movie, whether be it Korean or not, and Parasite is good enough and deserve to compete with good mainstream Hollywood movies for the awards".

No one claims we have to deny Ghibri studio works being Japanese Anime in order to recognize the unique achievements of Ghibri studio (whatever it is), because it's so apparent and obvious to anyone that those works have distinctive Japanese Anime vibe and features as well, and also because Ghibri studio Anime works have been created by Japanese production teams which have been a part of broader Japanese Anime industry.

As far as I know, this BTS-pop dispute is for the most part an American (or western) thing. Look at Japan and some other East Asian countries where they had got popular and famous before they did in the West, the US. There is no such dispute in the East Asian countries (including South Korea, of course) and none of them have trouble recognizing achivements of BTS without denying BTS being a K-pop group, more precisely Korean idol boy group. For instance, BTS received many awards at the Japan Gold Disc Award, including the 2015 Grand Prix New Artist of the Year in Asia award, the 2017 Grand Prix best 3 Album Award in Asia, the 2019 Grand Prix Best Asian Artist of the Year Award, the 2019 Grand Prix Best MV in Asia Award and so on...

Only English speaking American, Western armys keep saying that "BTS-pop, not K-pop" nonsense.

What we call K-pop is, for the most part, Korean idol pop-music boy/girl groups created and managed by Kor