It's on Sefaria, but Hebrew/Aramaic only and I didn't see one elsewhere either
Both sources say Jesus was the son of Pantera.
If they are independent, then it seems like the story that Jesus was an illegitimate child of a Roman soldier must have been a rather early one, and therefor fairly plausible.
I don't know much about this, so I wanted to learn. I know that there are two Talmud 'versions', the babylonian and the Jerusalem one. So, which one is used where or when? Where will you get taught the one or the other? Thanks for your help! :)
"'Do not uncover the nakedness of your brother's wife' (Lev. 18:16) and '[When brothers dwell together and one of them dies and leaves no son, the wife of the deceased shall not be married to a stranger, outside the family.] Her husband's brother shall unite with her' (Deut. 25:5). Both of them were spoken simultaneously, such that the mouth is unable to utter and the ear unable to hear." (Jerusalem Talmud, Nedarim 3:2)
In source criticism hindsight, the Jerusalem Talmud understated the extent of disagreement between all the relevant parties. To what extent, however? Well, why only two rival verses?
More Than Two Rival Verses?
"And the LORD said to Moses: Write down these commandments, for in accordance with these commandments I make a covenant with you and with Israel." (Exodus 34:27)
When one Torah school wrote Exodus 34:27, it was thought that only in accordance with the commandments of the complete Ritual Decalogue, and no other commandments, that God made the covenant with Moses and with Israel. Originally, the Ritual Decalogue was attributed to the Yahwist School ("Rabbi J"), before it was attributed to a bunch of Kenite laws, and before it was attributed elsewhere to non-final redaction (i.e., not by the final Redactor, or "Rabbi R").
"Moses went and repeated to the people all the commands of the LORD and all the rules; and all the people answered with one voice, saying, βAll the things that the LORD has commanded we will do!β (Exodus 24:3)
When the Elohist School ("Rabbi E") wrote Exodus 24:3, it was thought that all the commandments of God and all the rules were contained within the inerrant Covenant Code. To quote Professor Joel Baden, "the Covenant Collection is not one part of the law, or one law collection among others, but is the law collection, the only laws that YHWH ever gave to Israel."
"Cursed be he who will not uphold the terms of this Teaching and observe them.βAnd all the people shall say, Amen." (Deuteronomy 27:26)
When an anonymous Torah school wrote Deuteronomy 27:26, it was thought that all the terms of the Torah were contained in the definitive "Curses on Mount Ebal," which originally existed independent of the Deuteronomic Torah.
"This is the Teaching that Moses set before the Israelites [...] Be careful to observe only that which I enjoin upon you: neither add to it nor take away from it." (Deuteronomy 4:44 and 13:1)
When the Deuter
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and reading English at 5a Malinowitz The Schottenstein Edition The Jerusalem Talmud Tractate Berachos Volume 1.
Particularly of interest !... Shimβon ben Lakish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_ben_Lakish
Looking for the more accessible parts. Useful hints, tips, pointers, ideas, please! Beginning to read, browsing in English Steinsaltz Koren Talmud Bavli Berakhot Volume 1 https://www.google.com/search?q=Koren+Talmud+Bavli&tbm=isch
and Malinowitz The Schottenstein Edition The Jerusalem Talmud Tractate Berachos Volume 1 https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Schottenstein+Edition+The+Jerusalem+Talmud&tbm=isch
with The Talmud: A Biography by Barry Scott Wimpfheimer from the series Lives of Great Religious Books Princeton University Press 2018 https://books.google.com/books?id=5nxGDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover
The usual mix of complete historical ignorance and lies about the Talmud.
>I just do not understand their side at all. I have tried in every way possible and I get that you have just been fucked over by one of the most inhumane thing in the world history (a lot of shit has happened) but why take it out on the Palestinians for no reason whatsoever. Co-existence would have been easily achiveable. (+37)
>Jews have been praying to conquer Jerusalem for 2,000 years it was in the culture all around the world in that community. Heck in 1862 Ethiopian Jews tried to conquer Jerusalem but they did not have boats to cross the red sea and many died trying to cross. (+2)
>It is written in the talmud and explained like this by scholars of judaism. Very suspicious of you to say otherwise and react so agitated. (surprisingly at -2)
>I think he was that because the Palestinian/Jerusalem talmud talks about fighting occupiers in the land of israel. (+1)
>There is no such thing as a secular Jew dude.Even so, if I am misinformed, why censor me? Who are you really working for? (-1)
>The most heartbreaking pictures ever π’π (+8)
>CRINGE !!!!! (+13)
>Almost the word βIsraelisβ make me cringe (+20)
>What they are celebrating - I. E. Theft of land, genocide, ethnic cleansing - is fucked up in any context. That they are doing this immediately after the Holocaust was done to their co-religionists is beyond cringe. (+6)
>Ethnic cleansing and genocide, followed by apartheid ongoing to this day. None of your bullshit rationalisations change the facts. (+6)
>This is an extremely sad historical event. The innocent and vulnerable Palestinians lost their homeland to some invaders from all parts of the world. (+6)
>Palestinians received Jewish Refugees from Europe with open arms, once comfortable with their safety, they acted to kill and annihilate Palestinians one by one with the first terrorist movement ever to exist in the Middle East with the establishment of Irgun, Haganah and Stern. (+1)
A few weeks ago I took a trip for a wedding of two friends, and planned to spend Shabbat by a local shul. I'm writing about it because
A) I haven't taken a lot of trips in the last few years because of both that big weird flu going around the world and a small personal tragedy; and
- we could use some not-so-negative messages here.
I went a few days early to see family, and settled into the hotel Friday afternoon. About a week beforehand I had looked around for a good shul to visit; this being a pretty well-populated Jewish area I was expecting a variety of options but it turns out the hotel was not actually in the big Jewish area, just around a Chabad and a Reform temple. I've spent enough time with Chabad that if I have other options I'll go to them first (all about that diverse experience) and Reform just isn't my speed.
I called a few synagogues a few miles away, including a few Sephardic and Persion institutions because, aside from just wanting to meet new people, I haven't had the opportunity to spend much time in those communities and like to take the opportunity when it arises for me. My first experience in a Sephardic synagogue, in Jerusalem when I was 16, helped orient and define my view of Judaism as a global community and I've always held that memory close to me.
Unfortunately, no one called back. Not unexpected, but I also am not one to just show up to a synagogue unannounced, especially during these times of ________ (choose your tragedy).
I did finally get in touch with an Orthodox shul who welcomed me to join them, but also said, "if you're going to have to be driving, why don't you not drive so far to us and instead go to Rabbi X." This rabbi was about half the distance, which was convenient.
Spoke to him and he welcomed me for Shabbat services on Saturday morning, but then also for ma'ariv and Kabbalat Shabbat at his house. I got a feeling he might just be a wayward Chabad shaliach (again, love my time with Chabad but I was looking for some diversity) but wasn't going to decline out of unconfirmed judgement.
Everyone else in the havurah wasn't arriving until later that evening and the katan v'kallah were going to have dinner with their families, so I went all by my lonesome.
There were a bunch of dudes in the backyard (in coats and even scarves, despite to me the weather of southern California in December is like summer) and they welcomed me as their tenth for minyan - which only reminded me of the father of a rabbi of m
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been debating 1000+ MUSLIMs ..not a single one proved ISLAM is true ..
π΅their only arguement is :
πΉ1.quran is perfect
( which is not true cause there are many books superior than quran like book of mormon and kitab i akdas , QURAN's false numerical miracle claim has been refuted and numerology exists in many texts both non religious and religious + quran's ring composition or something like that is not a proof of GOD's word as ring narrative existed in various other religious and non religious text ..heck even book of mormon has a lot of ring composition structure )
πΉ2. no one can write a book like quran
( we did write " true furqan " but MUSLIMS will keep screaming it is not like QURAN and if we write a book similar to quran they will say we copied the quran ..so )
πΉ3.quran contains scienceitific facts
(this is the most foolish claim as all the science of quran actually existed in arabia , egypt , mesopotamia and muhammad actually used to do trade there for 30 years + most of those science can be easily known by a normal person . for example : Embryology is the quran is same as galen and talmud which existed in various parts of arabia which Muhammad and muhammad's companions can gather easily , there is a verse which talks about fresh water and salt water mixing/estuary which actually can be seen through naked eye and ships and muhammad and his companions used to used to trade too ..so they could easily know it from there)
πΉ4. Muhammad was a the perfect person
(this is the most absurd claim as muhammad is a pedo , he literally wrote verses so that he could marry more wives , he wrote verses regarding spoils of war , sex slavery and meccan + medinian verses prove ISLAM is a farce + when he was in mecca , he wrote verses with philosophy and fear of hell and in medina he wrote verses which are political )
πΉ5. QURAN has no scientific mistakes
( this is one of the biggest falsehood as Some apologists will contest these numerous scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or phenomenological interpretations of the text. Even if we suppose that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the Qur'anic verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were recorded. The author of the Qurβan makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common f
... keep reading on reddit β‘As the first decade of the 20th Century grew older the signs of the coming storms multiplied. In 1903 the British Government had offered Uganda to Zionism and Max Nordau had publicly foretold "the future world war," in the sequence to which England would procure Palestine for Zionism. In 1905 the Protocols prophetically revealed the destructive orgy of Communism. Then in 1906 one Mr. Arthur James Balfour, Prime Minister of England, met Dr. Weizmann in a hotel room and was captivated by the notion of presenting Palestine, which was not his to give, to "the Jews."
The shape which "the future world war" would take was then determined. Mr. Balfour stood guard over the new century and yielded the pass. A different man, in his place, might have saved it; or another might have done the same, for by 1906 the hidden mechanism for exerting "irresistible pressure on the international affairs of the present" (Leon Pinsker, 1882) had evidently been perfected. Rabbi Elmer Berger says of that time, "that group of Jews which committed itself to Zionism β¦ entered a peripatetic kind of diplomacy which took it into many chancelleries and parliaments, exploring the labyrinthine and devious ways of international politics in a part of the world where political intrigue and secret deals were a byword. Jews began to play the game of 'practical politics.β" The era of the malleable "administrators" and compliant "premier-dictators," all furthering the great plan, was beginning. Therefore any other politician, put in Mr. Balfourβs place at that time, might have acted similarly. However, his name attaches to the initial misdeed.
His actions are almost unaccountable in a man of such birth, training and type. Research cannot discover evidence of any other motive than an infatuation, of the "liberal" sort, for an enterprise which he did not even examine in the light of duty and wisdom. "Hard-boiled" considerations of "practical politics" (that is, a cold calculation that money or votes might be gained by supporting Zionism) can hardly be suspected in him. He and his colleagues belonged to the oldest families of England, which carried on a long tradition of public service. Statesmanship was in their blood; understanding of government and knowledge of foreign affairs were instinctive in them; they represented the most successful ruling class in recorded history; and they were wealthy.
Why, then, did instinct, tradition and wisdom suddenly desert them in this one question, at the moment
... keep reading on reddit β‘Hello, fellow DLS fans! Still enjoying the update? It has been over a week since our reunification with the DLS gang and I am back with a DLS theory/speculation/rambling---honestly whichever is more appropriate--post. I know this is probably the absolute worst time for a theory post taking into account the diamond rush just began and you all have glamorous outfits and no diamonds required love, or other, scenes to try out and absolutely no time to read my over excessive DLS theory posts which I planned to get up days ago, but *coughs* I'm a procrastinator *coughs* and have only managed to do so now and also because it's been up on my laptop for a while now and I want it gone! lol. But...enough rambling as this post will already be filled with enough of that.
After the latest update of "DLS", there were no fewer mysteries, but on the contrary, more; A modern day maidservant with a pretense? lack of knowledge of cat cuisine, our embarrassed historian with (now) questionable roots, a bumbling amateur magician with an interesting name, Vlad's "daughter" and a slew of other newly garnered mysteries. Suffice to say, I spent the entire update with my face like this....
The latest update has slightly opened the veil of secrecy that envelops Vlad and our beloved and not so beloved characters of this air-tight mysterious vampire story. β CAUTION! This one's probably going to be lengthy, so if the diamond rush doesn't interest you...you don't mind wasting your precious minutes reading my ramblings...or you just enjoy DLS essays--not assigned, but written for the hell of it...here goes!
NOT SO MYSTERIOUS ANYMORE
While the story garnered a slew of new mysteries, it didn't leave all mysteries unanswered. Over a year after it's inception, DLS mysteries from the wee beginning of Season 1 are starting to become front and center again. Among them
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Looking for an English index to English material in Malinowitz The Schottenstein Edition The Jerusalem Talmud Tractate Berachos Volume 1
Looking also for an English concordance!...
Do your worst!
