[EVENT] Italian Air Force and Navy Aviation Procurement

The Italian Air Force has expanded its requirement for the Air Force and Navy Aviation slightly in order to meet current European defence demands, and has set about procuring a small number of vehicles in order to suit this expanded demand.


##Air Force

###Eurofighter Typhoon

The Italian Air Force currently has 82 Eurofighter Typhoons in active service, ignoring trainer aircraft. The Italian Air Force has put in an order to expand this count to 100, creating a new squadron of 20 aircraft. This procurement should take 2 years and cost the government $1.818 billion dollars at a cost per aircraft of $101 million.

###F-35B

The Italian Air Force currently has 15 F-35B JSF aircraft in active service. 5 more have been ordered, in order to complete a squadron of four flights plus a backup flight. At $110 million per unit, the fighters will cost the Italian government a total of $550 million. Procurement is expected to take two years, alongside the others ordered by Navy Aviation.

###Panavia Tornado IDS

The Italian Air Force currently has 62 Panavia Tornado, of which 16 are modified into the ECR variant. The Italian Air Force is ordering 4 more ECR and 34 more IDS aircraft in order to complete four total squadrons of the air craft. At a unit cost of $35 million per aircraft, this shall cost the Italian government $1.330 billion. Procurement is expected to take two years.

##Navy Aviation

###F-35B

The Italian Navy Aviation currently has 16 F-35B aircraft, all of which are for the Cavour. With the order of the Pisa coming through and the Trieste already procured, procurement of a flight of 6 aircraft for each vessel has been commenced. The total of 12 F-35Bs shall cost the Italian government $1.320 billion over a period of two years, alongside the Air Force order.


Total procurement costs for this run are therefore $5.018 billion over a period of 2 years - well within the underutilised Air Force procurement and research budget.

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Finally did it. I have fully spaded every single plane in the entire Italian aviation tree. It starts out fun with almost almost every prop, and ends in a nightmare with about half of the jets.
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The Italian aviation tree still exists

I know mamy of you may have forgot but it's still a thing that desprately needs any sort of new and unique addition. I get that top tier is out of the question but maybe some early jets... Or even some cas would be nice.

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The North American A-5 Vigilante was an carrier-based supersonic bomber designed and built by North American Aviation (NAA) for the United States Navy.
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BrΓ©guet Br.1050 AlizΓ© of the Indian Navy at the Naval Aviation Museum, Goa [5312 x 2988]
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Official U.S. Navy Photographs of Herbert A. Munter and his First and second plane. β€œEarly Birds of Aviation” reddit.com/gallery/s4q0fn
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Soviet Navy era Yakovlev Yak-38 aircraft & pilots on the deck of the aircraft carrier Kiev. The Yak-38 was the Soviet Naval Aviation only operational VTOL strike fighter aircraft.
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Italian Navy F-35B onboard the aircraft carrier Cavour [4096x2731]
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Should marine aviation be folded into the navy & army

In this day and age does it still make sense for the marines to have their own aviation assets when they are a sister to service to the navy and are in the same dept under the DOD? Would the marines be better suited to divest the assets to the army or navy instead?

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US Navy foreign service medal for China service, anybody know what year? Naval or Aviation? reddit.com/gallery/rerqj0
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Coming soon in NHS Kaiℒ️ [US Navy Aviation in Kai] v.redd.it/cq20jfamlb081
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Royal Australian Navy Able Seaman Aviation Support Indiana Van Arkel stands on the Flight Deck of HMAS Canberra during Exercise Talisman Sabre 21. (801x1200)
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Why did the italian navy perform so inadequately in WW2? How could it have performed better?

Unlike the Italian army, the italian navy had some of the most poweful and technologically advanced warships in the world, with decades of experience, great esprit de corps, and having performed exellently in WW1. The Zara, Bolzano, Montecuccoli cruisers surpassed the obsolelscent and poorly armed cruisers of the royal navy such as the Arethusa and Leander class, and their destroyers were similarly state of the art compared to the often WW1 era british destroyers. However, before US involvement, the italians suffered severe losses with very little gains. Why was that? Lack of radar seems to have been a tactical disadvantage, but that didnt stop the japanese navy from decisively defeating US warships with superior fire control like in the battle of savo island. The raid of taranto is said to have knocked the italian navy out of the war, but that raid only sank 1 and damaged another modernized but obsolescent dreadnought, leaving the italian cruiser, submarine and destroyer force intact. Moreover, the italian navy more easy access to ground based air support, softening the edge the british had in aircraft carriers. What made the italian navy such a non factor that a handful german U boats caused more damage to the royal navy than it in the mediterranean?

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Beechcraft Model 73 Jet Mentor. A jet engine derivative of the T-34 Mentor, it competed against the Cessna T-37 Tweet, which the Air Force adopted, and the Temco TT Pinto for the Navy. However, the aircraft was never ordered into production, and the sole Jet Mentor is in the Kansas Aviation Museum. reddit.com/gallery/psm4ei
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Super fast way to do the aviation starts with the Italian tech tree

A super fast way to do the starts for aviators with the Italian Tech Tree is:

12 tons of bombs - use the F-104S, F-104G and G.91 in air arcade and should be done in 3/4 matches

4 kills in a match - get the R3T20 FA-HS and the A129 International or the A129 CBT, cap a point with the R3, die, spawn in the A129 and with 8 hellfire you should be more than capable of killing 4 enemies

Get 40 kills - if you play in Realistic battles all your kills worth 2 instead of 1, again, take the R3 and the A129, if you do 4/5 kills with the A129 a match in 4/5 matches you got it

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Vought F-8 Crusader of the Aeronavale (French Navy Aviation) clearly showing its distinctive variable incidence wing design.
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The Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero (Italian for sparrowhawk) was a three-engined Italian medium bomber developed and manufactured by aviation company Savoia-Marchetti. It may be the best-known Italian aeroplane of the Second World War. **That exposed dorsal gunner though.
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A flight surgeon is a military medical officer practicing in the clinical field of aviation medicine. They are physicians (MDs or DOs) who serve as primary care physicians for a variety of military aviation personnel. In the USA, the Army, Navy, and Air Force all train and utilize flight surgeons. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fli…
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Made for my brother and his squad mates for their Navy Aviation Wings ceremony reddit.com/gallery/pyk7nb
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Discrimination anyone? β€œItalian Navy” reddit.com/r/memes/commen…
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Vought F-8 Crusader of the Aeronavale (French Navy Aviation) in final approach to its carrier.
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Main guns and quarterdeck view of the French cruiser Algerie. She was the last Treaty cruiser of the French Navy, built as a response to the Italian Zara class. (1237x1266)
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Navy to Army Aviation Warrant Officer

I've been in the Navy for 2 years as an MA - I've wanted to be a Pilot as long as I can remember, but I'm too old for the Navy and Air Force. I can go to flight school for Helicopters when I get out, but won't have enough flight hours to get a job. Thus, I've been interested in switching from the Navy to Army Warrant Officer. I've been on the sister service applicants page, and a few Q&A pages, but I'm getting conflicting information for certain questions I have. Those who've gone blue to green, I have a few questions:

Will I have to repeat boot camp?

Do I still need atleast 3 LOR's? What avenues did you take to obtain yours? I asked my chain of command what I could do to volunteer on my off time for a squadron in Jacksonville, to help out however I could, but was told there was nothing I could do.

How does the SIFT test and WOSB work for me? Do I need to travel to Fort Rucker for either?

The site states that if you don't complete Warrant Officer candidate school, you will have to complete the remainder of your service obligation; Is that the 10 year service obligation for Warrants? Or for example, if I switch after 3 years in the Navy, am I only obligated to serve the last year in the Army?

What is your quality of life going from the Navy to the Army? The difference in rank can affect your point of view - but is it better? Or worse?

How are things different, in terms of flight hours and work life, between Active Duty and National Guard?

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[WTS] Hamilton Khaki Automatic 40mm Aviation H50 - 80hr Movement Navy Blue Ref. 703050 πŸ”₯FLASH SALE! $250 ShippedπŸ”₯ reddit.com/gallery/pe5xg5
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Goodyear C-49 Control Car at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center. Originally flown as Enterprise in 1934, it was assigned to the US Navy during WWII as L-5. After the war, it returned to Goodyear, and renamed Columbia. Donated in 2011, it was restored while on display in the Boeing Aviation Hangar. reddit.com/gallery/qvrdwj
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F4U-1A Corsair fighters of US Navy squadron VF-17 in flight, Southwest Pacific, 1944; seen in Feb 1969 issue of US Navy publication Naval Aviation News
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[1200 x 800] Japanese aviation destroyer Kaga dressed overall in provision of Japan's Navy Day
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US Navy and Naval Aviation in the cold war youtube.com/watch?v=1YDS3…
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Indian Navy's Video on Naval Aviation v.redd.it/lk5mkhxzhvl71
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China Bought Italian Military-Drone Maker Without Authorities’ Knowledge: Sale illustrates Europe’s weak rules on purchases of sensitive technology. Italy β€œinvestigating the 2018 takeover of Alpi Aviation Srl by a Hong Kong-registered company that they say is a front for the Chinese state.” wsj.com/articles/china-bo…
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Coat of Arms of the Italian Navy
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To GSMs, GSEs, or anyone with who is knowledgeable in the aviation side of the Navy

Hello! I am someone who is interested in joining the Navy, because after some veteran asking, I found out the Navy has the most aircraft (or at least variety). I am currently a car mechanic, but I’m interested in expanding my knowledge beyond cars and making more money. I found the GSM rating (I think that’s how it’s categorized? Apologies if I’m wrong) and I love the description of it and it appears it’s very beneficial after the military (financially wise and civilian job finding wise). As of now, my plan is to only service my required five years and work for an airport as a aviation mechanic with a veteran status under my belt. But after doing some research on Navy COOL, it seems that the GSM positions are mostly recommend towards power plants, nuclear, and engineering careers after your service. I never pictured that for myself. I wanted to lead myself more towards working on airplanes (mechanically wise). Would anyone here recommend other ratings that will lead me towards aviation mechanics or could GSM still work for the career I’m trying to get into? Thank you in advance!

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A Fleet Air Arm Hawker Nimrod is hold by sailors while in the elevator of a RN aircraft carrier, possibly HMS Glorious. Although replaced by the Sea Gladiator at the outbreak of WW2 the Nimrod was still in service with the Royal Danish Navy Aviation in 1940.
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Marine Corps aviation strength at the beginning and end of World War I. #marinehistory #usmc #SemperFi #militaryhistory #americanhistory #Veterans #Military #podcast #Navy #navalhistory #WWI #aviation #aviationlovers #AeroSpace https://ift.tt/3bDbG76 buffer-media-uploads.s3.a…
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21.11.21 F-35Bs of both Italian Navy and Air Force finally together aboard carrier Cavour (C550), followed by two planes of the US Marine Corps deployed on HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08). During the joint drills the Italian aircrafts also landed on the British carrier for the first time [Album] reddit.com/gallery/qznd5h
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Merry Christmas from the Italian Navy reddit.com/gallery/rojsvn
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The Italian submarine Archimede under attack by PBY Catalinas of the US Navy off the coast of Brazil, 15 April 1943. She will sink shortly afterwards, leaving a sole survivor.
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A stern view of the unfinished former Regia Marina (Italian Royal Navy) aircraft carrier, Aquila, (nearly completed (90%) before the Armistice of Cassibile on September 3rd, 1943, during the Second World War). Anchored in the Port of La Spezia, Italy, c. 1950 - 1953.
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LTJG Madeline G. Swegle. US Navy's first Black female Tactical Aircraft pilot. She received her Wings of Gold on July 31, 2020, marking a historic milestone for Naval Aviation.
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