The Giants sit at 0-2, the same spot they were in last year at this time.
Because Eli was facing similar OL problems, as well an an imposing Philadelphia DL on the road, McAdoo changed things up and put Eli in a two-minute drill/ hurry-up offense nearly the entirety of the game.
It was super successful; the Giants nearly won the game (Jake Elliott had that monster long FG in the final seconds) and Eli, OBJ and Shepard were productive and then went to TB and Eli had success agin, before losing OBJ in the next game.
I wonder if Pat Shurmur tries something similar this week. The Giants are on the road, like they were in week 3, except now they have a much more efficient feature pass-catching capable back as well as a sophomore TE.
They face a stout Houston DL, rated in the top 10, like Philadelphia was last year by most sites I've seen.
So we have to see something different from the Giants' offense in Week 3, right?
The Bills has that drive in the middle of the 4th quarter where they ran hurry-up pretty much the whole drive. Scored a touchdown, put the game out of reach, it was beautiful to watch.
I haven’t heard much mention about it on podcasts since the game, anybody hear anything from press conferences or wherever else as to why they did it then? If they can keep it going strong and feature it more often we could have our new version of the K-gun offense! 😎
Was just thinking about this after watching the game Sunday. It seems like when they go to a hurry up offense Mitch moves the ball well and the team usually gets set up for a score. We've seen it before, two minutes left in the half and all of a sudden the offense just starts working.
I just don't get it. Why doesn't Nagy run some kind of hurry up offense more often? It sure looks like it works better than whatever they normally do.
Something needs to be done about this bullshit. They did it to us last week. They're doing it to LSU now.
Anyone know how to turn this stuff off. Every team in my dynasty runs a hurry up short pass offense. I have no idea how to stop it. My 97 overall defense is ranked as one of the worst in the nation. It's not even fun to play because every offense is cheese...
From Malzahn’s press conference yesterday:
> Asked if he would go back to playing fast, Malzahn grinned. “I wrote the book!” he said.
One major argument against no-huddle offense is that it gives defense little time to rest and thus their performance plummet. Here I am going to test the theory. I use drive-by-drive data from past 3 seasons and calculate the length of possession of the previous drive. Ending drives of each quarter are excluded.
The problem here is when the length of the previous drive is longer, it means that the offense is pushing further and as a result the defense will more likely to face a better starting position. Therefore I use the drives that started from 20-25 yard line only since there are most probably starting position due to touchback rule. Then I use logistic regression to see the chance of scoring drive against possession time
Chance of scoring play vs possession time of previous drive
The plot shows a slight downward trend, but digging through the number a 10 minutes drive gives a team 3% more to score or a whopping 1-yard advantage. The p-value is 0.43 means it quite possible that it doesn't affect the defense at all.
That being said I think the problem of with or without no-huddle offense is that we still doesn't have enough sample size to tell whether it's better, or it needs a good QB to execute.
Richard and Godfrey can't seem to find the HUGE LOOMING MATCH-UP quality in the SEC title game despite LSU allowing a buncha points versus Ole Miss and Georgia winning a boring, defense-y game vs. Auburn. Also: Iowa will Iowa you at Iowa, Cincinnati is SUSPECT and Baylor led a big game by a particular margin that didn't hold.
Is it just me or did Cousins play better when the Redskins ran no huddle?
I digitally downloaded the game. (Don’t know is that has anything to do with it) but since I’ve downloaded whenever I use the hurry up offense and choose a run play, my QB keeps the ball and runs himself. It’s super frustrating in close games when I’m needs a yard or two and my QB is tackled for a loss because he never handed it off.
There are some specimen out there that just hurry up all the time. And although it's nowhere near realistic to do it all game long, I don't want to complain about being in the game. If there's anything it's the bug that sometimes (i would say 10% of the time, way too often) your guys don't line up and are called offsides. Thank you for not fixing it EA.
I would like to know what the negatives are from a offense point of view. So that I can work on those as a defense. Do OLine men get exhausted faster? I guess it either depends on their fatigue stats or the defense rushers get exhausted faster. The same is probably true for all other positions. So what is the thing to take advantage of / care less about the more hurry ups happen?
Currently I think our passing game isn’t where It needs to be, but everytime we switch to hurry up offense or “2 minute drill” we consistently have no issues moving the ball downfield and getting first downs. So I guess my question is why don’t they incorporate it more in the game, before It’s too little too late like I’ve been noticing. Especially vs the bears that was evident. I understand that Pete wants to be a run first team and “beat down the defense” but wouldn’t hurry up offense make It difficult for defenders to switch out of the game, thus making them more tired?
I’m just trying to understand the benefits/downfall of using It more and the reasons pete has consistently avoided It early in the games until we are behind or going for a 4th quarter winning drive. If I recall correctly I remember Wilson talking about how he loves it when we play that style.
Any info from someone that can explain to me. Would be greatly appreciated! Remember this is just a discussion.
Go Hawks!
Can someone tell me why I just had a 12 second runoff on a 6 yard gain on a pass followed up on the next play by a 10 second run off on a 30 yard gain on a pass? In real life, you can substitute the whole team and put the kicking unit on the field in about 12 seconds so why is the runoff ever close to 12 seconds on plays that don’t gain 20+ yards
The way that it skips the players running up to the line and just runs the clock off is bothersome, enjoying the game otherwise just wondering if it’s possible to change this? Thanks
I feel like Eli loves it, and we move rather well when using it.
Thoughts?
With Kubiak coming on board, we knew there were going to be major changes on offense. But why did the offense have to change? It wasn't broken, so why fix it? Kubiak certainly could've conformed to the offense of years past, rather than the other way around. The coaching shakeup was probably necessary, if for no other reason than to bring some fire to the team's demeanor. The defense was usually the weak link, and Wade Phillips has been awesome. I'm wondering if there is a more practical reason for the changes on offense (e.g. fewer weapons for Peyton to target, learn how to control the clock more often, etc) other than "because that's not how Kubiak's system works". Thoughts?
Last year, our offense was tearing opposing defenses up with the no-huddle. Is it just me or is this almost completely absent from our offensive scheme this year? I feel like I rarely see it anymore.
When we go down big and are forced to increase the tempo and go no-huddle, our offense has always been better. Luck can do great things, and that seems to be the environment where he shines the most.
However, the coaching staff has never committed to this style of play. I thought things would change with the monster contract Luck got, but it seems that they are still set on making him play on hard mode. Sitting at home, it doesn't make any sense to me.
I guess what I'm asking is, does anyone know what the coaching staff sees as far as offensive philosophy goes? Since this has gone on with both Pep and Chud, does that mean that it's a Pagano thing?
I feel like I could at least stomach the decision better if I understood why things are the way they are.
It seems like the team (especially over the past two games) has given up on their trademark/bread and butter hurry up offense which has worked for so long. I feel like they should have utilized this tried and true tactic and if they did, I believe the Eagles defense would have been more worn out and maybe just maybe a few of those defensive plays that they made late wouldn’t have happened and things end up different.
There were so many big stories in the NFL yesterday that I think this one is getting overlooked. TO and Palmer had some sort of altercation during the game and Palmer stopped throwing balls in his direction all together. At the end of the game they had a chance to run hurry-up and score and TO mailed it in.
With all the shit that TO has done to his teams in his career, I've never seen him quit on the field like he did yesterday. I wish more people were talking about this, because I really think that its the beginning of Team implosion number 4. If they don't start winning now, it's only going to get worse.
Just happened to me about 10 times in one game, it's insanely ridiculous. I know it's EA, but come on, this is a glaring issue.
The offensive statistics from last year prove how effective it was - what is the main difference this year? How have we only scored 10 points this year in the second half?
I'm new to H2H and just wondering if there's an overall consensus of whether it's a douchey move to always do hurry-up offense.
Also, bonus question - what would you say is your ratio of pass to run plays?
