Why do American companies manufacture products in China when the corporate tax rate in China is higher than the United States?

I noticed even some mainland Chinese companies like Fuyaou opening manufacturing plants in the United States due to the tax cuts.

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"Corporate tax avoidance has become so widespread that from the late 1980s until now, the effective corporate tax rate in the United States has dropped from 30 percent to 15 percent" nytimes.com/2014/06/16/op…
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At Walgreen, Renouncing Corporate Citizenship: "dozens of large United States companies are contemplating merging with foreign rivals in countries with lower tax rates and then reincorporate there while still enjoying the benefits of doing a large part of their business in the United States" dealbook.nytimes.com/2014…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/TheArmyOf1
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/u/absobloodylootely explains corporate "asset stripping" wherein a hostile entity takes over a company and sells the assets to create shareholder equity rather than pay debts or reinvest, ruining long term value, and how the GOP tax bill does this to the United States. np.reddit.com/r/news/comm…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Beard_of_Valor
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Apple Inc. pays an effective tax rate of 9.8% in the United States. Should we lower corporate tax rates?

Statistics: [Source]

Corporations like Boeing, General Electric, Priceline.com and Verizon, paid no federal income tax at all over the five year period from 2008-13.

Five companies β€” Wells Fargo, AT&T, IBM, General Electric, and Verizon β€” enjoyed over $77 billion in tax breaks during this five-year period.

One hundred and eleven of the 288 companies assessed by CTJ (39 percent of them) paid zero or less in federal income taxes in at least one year from 2008 to 2013.

Factoring all of the above information in, what should we do about corporate tax rates (i.e. raise or lower) and subsequent evasive measures and loopholes (i.e. enforce or do not enforce)?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/voglioscopare
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CMV: The corporate tax rate in the United States should be 0%

I believe that the corporate tax rate causes businesses in the United States to move to other countries, to shelter their money in other countries, and to create jobs in other countries. I also believe that the corporate tax rate in the United States, which is the second highest effective corporate tax rate out of all developed nations, prevents international businesses from coming to the United States.

I believe that by eliminating the corporate tax rate altogether, we will be able to give a huge boost to the economy. More goods will be produced, more jobs created, more money will stay in the United States, and more international businesses will come to the United States.

So, there you have it. I am willing to change my view, but you will certainly have to do a good job in convincing me.

CMV.


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πŸ‘€︎ u/RedditMan2048
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In the United States, the rich, not the poor, are winning big. The obscene tax break for hedge fund operators still exists. The wealthy, such as Mitt Romney, still pay lower tax rates than their secretaries. Corporate and personal tax havens abroad still shelter trillions from taxes. washingtonpost.com/opinio…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/rspix000
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ELI5:How Does Corporate Tax relate to Income tax in the United States

What I mean is, do CEO's pay taxes on the corporations money it makes and then pays income tax on the money he pays himself, or am I missing something?

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Apple Inc said none of its operations were moved from Ireland and that changes made to its corporate structure in 2015 were specially designed to preserve tax payments to the United States, and not to reduce taxes anywhere else. thestar.com.my/news/world…
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Will Donald Trump’s Corporate β€˜Tax Holiday’ Create Jobs? Not Necessarily -- Corporate boards and executives are likely to use much of the cash to acquire businesses in the United States, to buy back their own stock or to pay down debt. nytimes.com/2016/12/26/bu…
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A Big Corporate Tax Cut in the United States Will Bring more Prosperity to the Whole World danieljmitchell.wordpress…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Tnargkiller
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Apple Inc said none of its operations were moved from Ireland and that changes made to its corporate structure in 2015 were specially designed to preserve tax payments to the United States, and not to reduce taxes anywhere else.

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 28%. (I'm a bot)


> Apple Inc said none of its operations were moved from Ireland and that changes made to its corporate structure in 2015 were specially designed to preserve tax payments to the United States, and not to reduce taxes anywhere else.

> The statement on Monday from Apple comes following criticism of its tax affairs after reports based on the "Paradise Papers" showed that the iPhone maker shifted key parts of its business to Jersey as an offshore tax haven in a move to maintain a low tax rate.

> Apple said it pays billions of dollars in taxes to the United States at the statutory 35 percent rate on investment income from its overseas cash.

> Last month, Apple responded to questions from the ICIJ and others revealing that when Ireland changed its tax laws in 2015, the company complied by changing the residency of its Irish subsidiaries and informed Ireland, the European Commission and the United States.

> Apple is the largest taxpayer in the world, paying over $35 billion in corporate income taxes in the last three years, according to the statement.

> Tax reduction strategies have been employed for decades by companies including Microsoft Corp and Amazon.com Inc..


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H.R. 3217: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for the identification of corporate tax haven countries and increased penalties for tax evasion practices in haven countries that ship United States jobs overseas, and for other purposes.

Introduced: Sponsor: Rep. Jerry McNerney [D-CA9]

This bill was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and House Committee on Ways and Means which will consider it before sending it to the House floor for consideration.

Govtrack.us Summary

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France urged the United States on Tuesday to drop reservations toward an OECD reform of decades-old international tax rules and proposed setting a minimum corporate tax rate of 12.5%. reuters.com/article/us-oe…
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The Coca-Cola Company, General Motors, Google, Walt Disney Co., McDonald’s Co. or Goldman Sachs... More than 50% of all publicly-traded companies in the United States including 63% of the F 500 have chosen to legally avoid taxes in Delaware. Tax Havens and Corporate Havens just at your hands... corp.delaware.gov/aboutag…
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H.R. 3812: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for the identification of corporate tax haven countries and increased penalties for tax evasion practices in haven countries that ship United States jobs overseas, and for other purposes. govtrack.us/congress/bill…
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To Justify Corporate Fearmongering, Sen. Kirk Falsely Calls Illinois’ Corporate Tax The World’s Highest. Even with the increase, Illinois doesn’t have the highest corporate tax rate in the United States, much less the entire world. wonkroom.thinkprogress.or…
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Giving Away Corporate Tax Cuts Is Not How to Make the United States More Competitive americanprogress.org/issu…
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Hundreds of protesters in Los Angeles have taken out to the streets of Hollywood to rally against loopholes in legislations on corporate tax in the United States presstv.com/detail/223139…
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CMV: The United States should lower or even abolish the corporate income tax.

This is an old article (2008), but it sums up my views well. It's written by head of the Harvard econ department Greg Mankiw. Not that I want to make an argument from authority, but this idea has some weight behind it.

Summary of my reasoning:

  • The incidence (burden) of corporate income tax mainly falls on labor (one CBO study suggests 70%), decreasing wages. So decreasing the tax will increase wages, which is good both for the individuals and the economy.

  • Encourages corporations to stay in and move to the US, or at least reduces the incentive to dodge taxes.

  • Leads to economic growth, both through helping the stock market and reducing distortions in the free market. Most taxes tend to mess with the free market and are inefficient (other than Pigovian taxes on externalities), especially the corporate tax.

  • Won't mess with the deficit TOO much. The money that corporations aren't paying won't just disappear. It will go into stock transanctions (taxed via cap gains), salaries (taxed via payroll and income), etc. etc. If it drives economic growth, the tax base will also grow, which could actually make this tax cut self-funding. If we do need to fix the budget hole it makes, maybe slightly raise capital gains tax on higher incomes/transactions, and/or raise the gas tax?

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Welfare, But for CEOs - A new report shows how the United States is lining corporate executives’ pockets with tax dollars. jacobinmag.com/2018/08/be…
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Time for all them rich tax loopholers to demonstrate how much they love the American worker. President Obama plans to close corporate tax loopholes on U.S. multinational corporations and crack down on overseas tax havens to help create new jobs in the United States and make the tax code fairer. money.cnn.com/2009/05/04/…
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In other words, if the WSJ editorial page had even a smidgen of intellectual honesty, they could have plotted a curve that was at least colorably defensible and would have made their same point, namely that the United States might benefit from lower corporate tax rates. washingtonmonthly.com/arc…
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"Instead if giving huge tax breaks to corporations who shut down in the United States and send jobs abroad to low-wage countries, we must invest in creating worker-owned companies." Bernie, June 2018
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Welfare, But for CEOs. A new report shows how the United States is lining corporate executives’ pockets with tax dollars. jacobinmag.com/2018/08/be…
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The Obama administration is weighing plans to circumvent do-nothing Congress and act on its own to curtail tax benefits for United States companies that relocate overseas to lower their tax bills, seeking to stanch a recent wave of so-called corporate inversions nytimes.com/2014/08/06/bu…
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Report: on GTA V sales, "Rockstar North has apparently not paid any corporate tax in the United Kingdom and has claimed 42 million UK pounds in tax credits" from a fund meant for β€œculturally British” games and "small and medium sized businesses" ip.finance/2019/08/tax-cr…
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I've read Bernie's website and learned about the reasons for closing the corporate tax loop holes (and totally agree that it needs to be done). How will Bernie make sure those companies don't just leave the United States rather than pay the taxes?

I've been getting stuck in conversations with people about Bernie and about the corporate regulation. Most people tend to agree that it's wrong from companies to avoid taxes with these loopholes. However, the argument that I keep hearing is that If they are asked to pay, they will just leave the United States rather than complying. From here, the argument goes that our entire economy will collapse because of the lack of jobs. On Bernie's website, I've read all about how the taxes are being avoided and how wrong it is and where the money would go if collected and it's all great. As a Bernie supporter, what do I say about Bernie's plans to make sure the companies actually pay the tax rather than just up&leaving?

EDIT:

So, I just did some (research.)[https://home.kpmg.com/xx/en/home/services/tax/tax-tools-and-resources/tax-rates-online/corporate-tax-rates-table.html]

Australia: 30%

Belgium: 33.99%

Canada 26.5%

China 25%

Finland 20%

France 33.3%

Germany 29.65%

Greece 29%

India 34.61%

Israel 26.5%

Italy 31.4%

Japan 33.06%

Mexico 30%

Netherlands 25%

Poland 19%

Russia 20%

Spain 28%

Sweden 22%

Switzerland 17.92%

Taiwan 17%

UAE: 55%

UK: 20%

US: 40%

Venezuela: 34%

So, actually it seems that the US is the second-highest on the list, after United Arab Emirates.

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Democrats Ask Obama to Act Alone to Stop Tax Flight: Obama Studying Administrative Action on Corporate Inversions "The Obama administration is weighing plans to circumvent Congress and act on its own to curtail tax benefits for United States companies that relocate overseas to lower their tax bills" nytimes.com/2014/08/06/bu…
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It's Time to Do Something When a Corporation Like WalMart Won't Pay a Living Wage - getting tax preferences and limitations on liability to do business in the United States is a privilege, not a right, that we as a society offer to big business in exchange for goods, services, and jobs. alternet.org/corporate-ac…
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"Instead if giving huge tax breaks to corporations who shut down in the United States and send jobs abroad to low-wage countries, we must invest in creating worker-owned companies." Bernie, June 2018
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A Tidal Wave of Corporate Migrants Seeking Tax Shelter : Johnson Controls, a corporation that implored Congress for a bail out and has aggressively sought β€” and received β€” a series of tax breaks said on Monday it was renouncing its United States citizenship and moving to Ireland nytimes.com/2016/01/26/bu…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/marcus_goldberg
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Where has all the surplus gone? (United States loses almost 60 billion € to tax havens, which amounts to about 25 percent of the corporate tax revenue it currently collects) mronline.org/2017/11/20/w…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/GenosseMarx
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Discussion: If we had a 0% corporate tax rate on profits overseas, would that create a constant inflow of cash into the United States?

My question centers around the idea that if companies didn't have to pay taxes on overseas profits, what percentage of that sum would come back into America? Having a steady inflow of cash from other nations would be good. Also would it bring down the trade deficit?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/IdeaSnob
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The Obama administration is weighing plans to circumvent do-nothing Congress and act on its own to curtail tax benefits for United States companies that relocate overseas to lower their tax bills, seeking to stanch a recent wave of so-called corporate inversions nytimes.com/2014/08/06/bu…
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Billionaires in the United States don't like Democratically-elected socialist governments, so US intelligence agencies are coordinating with corporate media to make us accept escalated intervention in Nicaragua
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[todayilearned] TIL half of all public corporations in the United States are incorporated in Delaware due to its lax tax laws. One address alone, 1209 N Orange St in Wilmington, is the legal address of over 285,000 businesses. nytimes.com/2012/07/01/bu…
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