Remainer Murdo Fraser in a right old state: blames fishing crisis on Scottish Govt, pleads ignorance over Victoria Prentis’ failure to read Brexit deal then says it’s better than Common Fisheries Policy Tories negotiated. [fair play to Geissler - more please] @ScotTories twitter.com/PhantomPower1…
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British fishermen have not escaped the Common Fisheries Policy - Despite their displeasure, remaining in its net is good news for their future economist.com/britain/202…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/blackmagic70
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Fishermen, Lies and the Common Fisheries Policy

This was originally written as a reply, but it comes up enough times I figured it deserves a post. I'm not seeking to advocate one party over another, they all deserve a share of the blame for their action or inaction on this and at this point Brexit is just a thing, so arguing the whys and wherefores is kinda redundant.

Mainly, my point in raising this is highlighting that:

  • policy is generally really complicated when you get down to it,

  • the long term economic impacts of policy are even more complicated, and

  • it's both easy and common for politicians of all stripes to be disingenuously reductive about the complex issues surrounding policy and where it comes from, to shirk blame for their fuck-ups.

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#TL;DR β€” The impact of the EU Common Fisheries Policy is actually a red-herring in the causes of the decline of the UK fishing fleet. We fucked that up all by ourselves, and very comprehensively.

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It's successive UK governments policy decisions on the implementation of the CFP, which have driven the small owner-operators out of the UK's fishing fleet.

By creating a market first for the sale and then to allow speculative trading of quota as a kind of financial instrument, all the while simultaneously refusing to take steps to claim back seemingly misallocated old quotas or to issue quota for new vessels to join the fleet; UK governments hailing from both sides of the house have effectively driven the concentration of quotas into the hands of a few dominant players...

The EU actually considered this management of fishing quotas to be exerting such a perverse effect on the UK fishing industry, that the European Commission started infringement proceedings against the UK over it, effectively taking the side of the small owner-operators whom successive governments have effectively shafted whilst disingenuously implying it was caused by the CFP.

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Make of that what you will.

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Petition: Ban Supertrawlers from UK waters after leaving the EUs Common Fisheries Policy petition.parliament.uk/pe…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/AmatuerNerd
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EU vessels will no longer have automatic access to UK fishing waters - The automatic right of EU vessels to fish in British waters, in accordance with the EU’s common fisheries policy, is to be ended under the fisheries bill introduced to parliament today. theguardian.com/business/…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ManiaforBeatles
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M351 - Motion to pull out of the Common Fisheries Policy immediately - VOTE NOW!

Order, order!


Motion to pull out of the Common Fisheries Policy immediately

The House recognises:

If the UK does not abide by CFP rules during the transition period, it will lose the voting rights it has now.

Staying in the Common Fisheries policy for another 2 years would be a further disaster for the UK’s already shattered fishing fleet, particularly for the inshore fleet, further eroding prosperity in vulnerable coastal communities.

The CFP has caused significant damage to the British fishing industry and therefore should leave the CFP with haste, so that the British fishing industry may rebuild.

Under the CFP Britain is only allowed to keep 40 percent of the fish in our exclusive economic zone and that hat 40 percent is worth about Β£940 million.

During the transition the European Union could implement detrimental legislation to clobber what’s left of the UK’s fishing industry.

The National Federation of Fishermen's Organisations opposes transitionary arrangements.

It is possible to move smoothly and seamlessly into a pattern of annual (bilateral or trilateral) international agreements with the countries with which we share stocks, to replace the CFP’s decision-making processes. If there are transitional arrangements , they should apply only to the trade regime.

The House urges the government to:

That the government of the United Kingdom pulls out of the CFP as fast as possible and takes the steps necessary in order to regain control of its EEZ. This can be done via leaving the European Union smoothly within the Article 50 deal or negotiating with the European Union to ensure that the CFP is not included in transitionary arrangements.


The motion was submitted by /u/Eriktherod, MP for Humberside on behalf of the Libertarian Party UK.

This division will end on the 27th of October.

Please vote Aye, No or Abstain only.

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David Mundell threatens [to resign again] if UK remains bound to common fisheries policy scotsman.com/news/david-m…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/yohanfunk
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May implying govt will try to leave Common Fisheries Police and Common Agricultural Policy during transition - won't be easy... EU view is transition is absolutely sticking to status quo, UK view is sticking more or less to status quo - first big fight of next year twitter.com/bbclaurak/sta…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/MiloSaysRelax
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Common Fisheries Policy map?

I'm working on a research project that involves looking at global fisheries policy, and I'm getting confused about exactly where in the world the EU's Common Fisheries Policy is applicable to member states, especially concerning overseas territories. Does anyone know where I can find a map of where the CFP is officially in place?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/dorftrottel94
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Nick Eardley on Twitter: Hearing MPs from fishing areas have raised concerns about Malthouse Compromise - fearing it could mean an extra year in the Common Fisheries Policy. One source says there's "panic" among MPs who have said leaving CFP at the end of 2020 is a red line. twitter.com/nickeardleybb…
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Theresa May promises Scottish Tories UK will be out of Common Fisheries Policy by end of 2020 telegraph.co.uk/politics/…
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Your plaice or mine: Why are people talking about the Common Fisheries Policy? - How the CFP works in practice, how it affects Ireland and why the policy has proved controversial. iiea.com/featured-analysi…
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EU Bans Fish Discards – The wasteful practice of discarding perfectly edible fish is part of a historic deal to reform the Common Fisheries Policy. β€œThe long fight to end the shameful practice of perfectly good fish being thrown dead back into the sea has been won.” ens-newswire.com/2013/12/…
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[Stage 3/12][Commons, Committee stage] To make provision about policy objectives in relation to fisheries, fishing and aquaculture; to make provision about access to British fisheries; to make provision about the licensing of fishing boats; to make provision about the determination and distributio.. services.parliament.uk/bi…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/UKbills
πŸ“…︎ Dec 06 2018
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[Stage 3/12][Commons, Committee stage] To make provision about policy objectives in relation to fisheries, fishing and aquaculture; to make provision about access to British fisheries; to make provision about the licensing of fishing boats; to make provision about the determination and distributio.. services.parliament.uk/bi…
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#GEX[Humberside] Eirik hits the pub after a long day of campaigning and speaks to fishermen about the common fisheries policy.

[Eiriktherod enters a pub and sits down. She orders a beer and relaxes after a hard day of campaigning in Hull and Grimsby. Suddenly she overhears someone talking behind her. Something about... the EU. She listens in on the conversation]

Fisherman: Arr shiver me timbers. We've really been having some trouble with ye old common fisheries policy.

[Eirik spins around on her chair and faces the fisherman]

Eirik: Excuse me sir, did you just mention the common fisheries policy?

Fisherman: Yarr.. The EU bureaucrats are a bunch of landlubbers, they be given us catch limits and regulations that be ruining the art of fishing ye see!

Eirik: I completely agree with you sir. That's why the LPUK has promised to exit the common fisheries policy as soon as possible. Unlike my labour opponent who has stated in a recent debate with our party-leader that he would prefer to stay two more years in the CFP rather than exit now. The LPUK realises the importance of freedom from the CFP. Crooked Lannister however, would prefer to have regional investment banks controlled by Labour in order to 'regrow' the fishing industry.

Fisherman: Blimey matey! I didn't know labour were such scally wags!

Eirik: I know, I know. It's dreadful, isn't it? Don't worry though. The LPUK knows of the regional importance that fishing has in Humberside. We will tear down the quota system of the Common Fisheries policy and take away EU access from our waters. We will take control and negotiate an EEZ that will revitalise Grimsby and bring back the glory days.

Fisherman: Ohoy, that sounds smashing! I had been thinkin bout' voting for another party but now this old seadog is going to scuttle ship to the LPUK!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/igeldard
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[Stage 3/12][Commons, Committee stage] To make provision about policy objectives in relation to fisheries, fishing and aquaculture; to make provision about access to British fisheries; to make provision about the licensing of fishing boats; to make provision about the determination and distributio.. services.parliament.uk/bi…
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[Stage 5/12][Commons, 3rd reading] To make provision about policy objectives in relation to fisheries, fishing and aquaculture; to make provision about access to British fisheries; to make provision about the licensing of fishing boats; to make provision about the determination and distribution of.. services.parliament.uk/bi…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/UKbills
πŸ“…︎ Dec 20 2018
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[Stage 3/12][Commons, Committee stage] To make provision about policy objectives in relation to fisheries, fishing and aquaculture; to make provision about access to British fisheries; to make provision about the licensing of fishing boats; to make provision about the determination and distributio.. services.parliament.uk/bi…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/UKbills
πŸ“…︎ Dec 17 2018
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M351 - Motion to pull out of the Common Fisheries Policy immediately

Order, Order!

Motion to pull out of the Common Fisheries Policy immediately

The House recognises that:

(a) If the UK does not abide by CFP rules during the transition period, it will lose the voting rights it has now.

(b) Staying in the Common Fisheries policy for another 2 years would be a further disaster for the UK’s already shattered fishing fleet, particularly for the inshore fleet, further eroding prosperity in vulnerable coastal communities.

(c) The CFP has caused significant damage to the British fishing industry and therefore should leave the CFP with haste, so that the British fishing industry may rebuild.

(d) Under the CFP Britain is only allowed to keep 40 percent of the fish in our exclusive economic zone and that hat 40 percent is worth about Β£940 million.

(e) During the transition the European Union could implement detrimental legislation to clobber what’s left of the UK’s fishing industry.

(f) The National Federation of Fishermen's Organisations opposes transitionary arrangements.

(g) It is possible to move smoothly and seamlessly into a pattern of annual (bilateral or trilateral) international agreements with the countries with which we share stocks, to replace the CFP’s decision-making processes. If there are transitional arrangements , they should apply only to the trade regime.

The House urges:

That the government of the United Kingdom pulls out of the CFP as fast as possible and takes the steps necessary in order to regain control of its EEZ. This can be done via leaving the European Union smoothly within the Article 50 deal or negotiating with the European Union to ensure that the CFP is not included in transitionary arrangements.

Submitted by /u/Eriktherod, MP for Humberside on behalf of the Libertarian Party UK

This reading shall end on 23rd October 2018.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/pjr10th
πŸ“…︎ Oct 20 2018
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