I am mostly of colonial Anglo American Heritage but i have many distant cousins who are fully hispanic, as we share anywhere from 14-15cm on myheritage and 7 - 8 cm on ancestry, do you think such relations are possible? what are your thoughts?

they are from latin america, mostly the carribeans, puerto rico, mexico and some being from cuba and the dominican republic, venezula, as i found some that were from such places on gedmatch, but one is also from spain, who shares the same exact small dna segment (8-9cm) with our distant cousin who is fully pueto rican, do you think we could share a spanish or hispanic ancestor? is this even accurate? they seem too be on the same dna segments as my fathers sicilian side, but none of them share any of my italian/siclian cousins nor the ones who have half of those dna segments where the hispanic cuzzos are as well. its very interesting. most of my ancestors have been in the united states from the 1600s too the 1700s around most of the area that was the british colonies, about 60% of my ancestors on both my parents sides, but my mother does not match with these people.

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A question for all of our colonial cousins - when vitisting Britain, did you venture out of London? If not, why? If so, where did you end up?
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A question for our colonial cousins aka Yanks

I've noticed there seems to be quite a few of you on this sub. What do you like about it? I'm not complaining BTW, you all seem lovely.

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Jacinda Adern does the tika thing and apologises for the racist, British Colonial Pakeha Piggy Muldoon National Party policy of Dawn Raids on our Moana Nui cousins. After Pakeha invited them in to work our stolen lands for Pakeha profit, then ran racist ad campaigns to criminalise and deport them

On the back of centuries of European Colonial theft and murder around Moana Nui/Pacifica. And ongoing Colonial exploitation. While Pakeha Right Wing Parties National & ACT continue to stoke racism with smiles on their scummy faces.

Let's decolonise Moana Nui (& the Micro/Melanesian/Macro/Mini equivalents) and stop sending colonised sellouts here, White Christianist/Royalist worshipping kupapa who continue to promote White Supremacist Right Wing, Gayhating, Womenhating, Native Hating Terrorist bullshit on our stolen fucking land & insult our hospitality i.e. send more Polynesian Panthers & informed cuzzies because we have tons of racist bs to deal with.

Ardern gives formal apology on behalf of government for Dawn Raids

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/448235/ardern-gives-formal-apology-on-behalf-of-government-for-dawn-raids

"Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today gave a formal and unreserved apology on behalf of the government for the Dawn Raids which she said left Pacific communities feeling "targeted and terrorised".

Ardern delivered the speech as part of a three and a half hour ceremony in front of more than 1000 people at the Auckland Town Hall.

She said the raids to find, convict and deport overstayers often took place late at night or early in the morning and were said to involve harsh verbal and physical treatment.

"Today I offer, on behalf of the government, a formal and unreserved apology to Pacific communities for the discriminatory implementation of immigration laws that led to the Dawn Raids," Ardern said.

"Residents in those homes were woken abruptly, physically removed from their beds and forced into police vans to be taken for questioning.

"Some were hauled to the police station to appear in court the next day barefoot, in pyjamas or in clothes loaned to them in the holding cells; others were wrongfully detained."

Ardern said the raids went well beyond upholding immigration laws and "whole communities felt targeted and terrorised".

Protests from the youth group the Polynesian Panthers, coupled with the increasingly negative public reaction led to the end of the Dawn Raids in 1976, Ardern said.

She said following an inquiry in 1986 it was found that although Pacific people only represented about a third of overstayers, they represented 86 percent of prosecutions.

"The government expresses i

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Good news my colonial cousins! Looks like cheap models are heading your way! warhammer40000imperium.co…
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Just a bit of a giggle for my colonial cousins. Yes this is in the UK. Barry O economically blackmailed my country over Brexit. But hope. I guess. This piece popped up around the time of the George Floyd killing.
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Pancake day, which should be very thin, not those thick fluffy things our colonial cousins seem to think deserve the name.
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The made up Christian Colonial Cult is still mindraping here. Made up from stolen Jewish bits for Europeans because Monotheism is easier to control. Used to erase European & then worldwide native cultures for a thieving, made up 'White Conservative' identity. Bribing Kupapa to attack 'devil' cousins

IO, Jesus, Jehovah, Ihowa, Ihu Karaiti, Heaven/Hell etc etc just White Power Terrorist bunch of bullshit. Yet still they're at it, indoctrinating with Eurocentric hatreds, racehate, womenhate, gayhate etc. Catholicism, Anglicanism, Mormonism etc etc. 200 years of their cheap, psy-ops Missionary tricks here. Marsden was hated by OZ colonisers, but he figured Maori hadn't been worked over yet and Missionaries get land and power by conversion numbers. So they lied their way in to Nga Puhi lands. Coercing with promises of heavenly & institutional loot. Teaching the world is divided into good, pro-white blocks against bad, black Devil blocks that their ancestors and cousins now belonged too. Then supplying transport and firearms and colonial institutional positions to screw over their cousins. The oldest, cheapest European Colonial trick in the book. So millions of European opportunists could pour in and thieve and destroy and rewrite everything in to fit their history. Then puts on a show of apologising to itself, perhaps a new Saint and then re-abusing those who don't play along. Plenty of Europeans and Non-europeans have understood this dynamic and denounce it easily. Yet the made up Charlatan Christian Cults that undeniably backstabbed and deceived Maori and native people around the world, still operate freely. Still converts our communities to self-hating Kupapa. Free to attack and harrass for Christian conartists. While living off swindled native land, given in trust, having raped and abused native children worldwide in their churches. While we wait for the Royal Commission in to Church and State Child Abuse to punish at least 1 Colonial Christian Child Rapist before they die without consequence. The Anglicunts deliberately shopped the Maori version of the Treaty of Waitangi around, while practising the 2-faced English version. George Grey lied to Kingi Potatau te Wherowhero that Christian bs represented the true wealth of 'the west', then began murdering Kingitanga Christians to thieve land for the British Race, after his 'friend' died. Anything with Christian ideology in it is compromised, even the native responses that happened worldwide. You cannot have Tino Rangatiratanga if you've outsourced the highest philosophical, spiritual thoughts to made up Eurocentric Christian Colonial Cults which continue to exploit. To some charlatan white guy in a magic nightie. MP Elizabeth Kerekere and others have fought against the criminal colonial Christian Cult

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British Colonial Kupapa Cousin Killer Traitor World Over

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/26/china-to-overtake-us-as-worlds-biggest-economy-by-2028-report-predicts

" China will overtake the US as the world’s biggest economy before the end of the decade after outperforming its rival during the global Covid-19 pandemic, according to a report.

The Centre for Economics and Business Research said that it nowexpected the value of China’s economy when measured in dollars to exceed that of the US by 2028, half a decade sooner than it expected a year ago.

In its annual league table of the growth prospects of 193 countries, the UK-based consultancy group said China had bounced back quickly from the effects of Covid-19 and would grow by 2% in 2020, as the one major global economy to expand.

With the US expected to contract by 5% this year, China will narrow the gap with its biggest rival, the CEBR said. Overall, global gross domestic product is forecast to decline by 4.4% this year, in the biggest one-year fall since the second world war.

Douglas McWilliams, the CEBR’s deputy chairman, said: β€œThe big news in this forecast is the speed of growth of the Chinese economy. We expect it to become an upper-income economy during the current five-year plan period (2020-25). And we expect it to overtake the US a full five years earlier than we did a year ago.

β€œOther Asian economies are also shooting up the league table. One lesson for western policymakers, who have performed relatively badly during the pandemic, is that they need to pay much more attention to what is happening in Asia rather than simply looking at each other.”

China’s share of global GDP has increased from 3.6% in 2000 to 17.8% in 2019 and will continue to grow, the CEBR said. It would pass the per capita threshold of $12,536 (Β£9,215) to become a high-income country by 2023.

Even so, living standards in China will remain much lower than in the US and western European countries. In the US, the average per capita income is just over $63,000, while in the UK it is just over $39,000.

The CEBR said departure from the EU would not prevent the UK

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Murderously irresponsible Colonial French Occupiers of our cousins lands in Tahiti & Moananui continue to invite in infected America for profit. Exploiters like Trumpcunt Christianist Libertarian Peter Thiel wait in the wings with his Seasteading fantasy islands dream.

https://twitter.com/MichaelFieldNZ/status/1298120088600502275

"BREAKING - France tells colony of French Polynesia (pop 278,000), as #Covid19 sharply spikes, that people must "learn to live with Covid19". They will keep keep border open to tourists."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/424403/latest-covid-outbreak-in-french-polynesia-tops-300

Latest Covid outbreak in French Polynesia tops 300

25 August 2020

"Seven people with Covid-19 in French Polynesia are now in hospital, including three in intensive care.

The government said 310 infections were recorded this month and 119 of them were considered recovered.

11 cases relate to tourists who had to self-test four days after arriving in Tahiti.

Three Covid-19 cases were reported on Raiatea.

Because of the worsening outbreak, the government and the French High Commission further tightened distancing measures.

Masks must be worn in urban areas and busy places, while any gathering involving more than 10 people must have official authorisation.

Several schools in Tahiti are also affected.

A lockdown is not being considered, with the High Commissioner Dominique Sorain saying the collateral damage of it would be substantial.

The first Covid-19 wave from March to June infected 62 people.

The second wave followed after the border was reopened in July to boost tourism."

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UK spumoni looking better than it's colonial cousins over the pond! πŸƒπŸ€€πŸ€―
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Looking for research paper from 1 or 2 years ago that concluded that colonial Americans' average genetic distance from their spouse was 4th cousin -- Did Ancestry publish this? I can't find it.

Looking for research paper from 1 or 2 years ago that concluded that colonial Americans' average genetic distance from their spouse was 4th cousin -- Did Ancestry publish this? I can't find it

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One of my favourite indie duos, The Colonial Cousins
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I see your "cousin marriages" and raise you actual colonial-era historical accounts of the degenerate shitshow that is native Ganga culture where Incest and rape have been an integral part of life since Ganga was populated by early humans. AKA BobVegana phenomenon
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French Colonials open up our Tahitian cousins stolen lands to pandemic deaths from an unstable and infected America, and elsewhere. No quarantine.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/421101/french-polynesia-launches-online-system-for-arriving-travellers

" Colonial French Polynesia has launched an online registration system as it plans to open up for international tourism this week with flights from Paris and Los Angeles.

Anyone arriving in Tahiti is required to comply with the terms outlined in the Electronic Travel Information System.

These include a negative Covid-19 test no more than three days before departure as well as travel insurance covering costs in case of a Covid-19 infection.

The online declaration, which must include an itinerary, has to be supplied to the airline.

The system launch came just shortly after the French government decreed a stop to flights from and to several of its overseas territories.

The decree exempts travel in urgent cases and stipulates that the High Commissioner in French Polynesia can alter the terms of the decree.

On 15 July French Polynesia will become the first destination in the South Pacific accepting travellers without imposing a quarantine.

However, they will be given a kit to self-test for Covid-19 on the fourth day of their stay

French Polynesia updates economic relaunch plans

Meanwhile, French Polynesia's government has outlined part of its economic recovery programme to counter the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic.

The president Edouard Fritch said a total of $US 575-million would be made available.

Mr Fritch said $US 200 million had already been committed to be disbursed before the end of the year, with the housing ministry in line for the biggest allocation.

He said he hoped to raise the figure to $US 300 million by year's end.

The government said funds would be released for projects drawn up by an interministerial commission and a committee made up of communes, the territorial and the French government which would last up to five years.

A general relaunch plan is expected to be presented in early August.

The Covid-19 outbreak collapsed French Polynesia's tourism sector, which was a key pillar of its economy."'

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In today's messed up world, maybe it's time that this song by the Colonial Cousins gets popular again with the new generation. A strong message indeed in 'Krishna'. youtu.be/CJvK0dox0_M
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"Sooner or Later Your Cousin’s DNA Is Going to Solve a Murder" NYT Colonial Parkway Murders

This article in the New York Times on forensic genealogy mentions the Colonial Parkway Murders.Β  You can read a certain number of articles for free even if you are not a subscriber.

"Sooner or Later Your Cousin’s DNA Is Going to Solve a Murder"

www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/us/golden-state-killer-dna.html

Thanks.

Bill Thomas, Brother of Cathy Thomas, Colonial Parkway Murders

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Our Hawaiian cousins protesting more land thefts and illegal building on Mauna Kea by the colonial American State and science built on racism. youtu.be/_Ucr7Y9db6Q
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11 Aug 1894 European Colonial bombardment on our Samoan cousins "Their mission, other than to kill civilians, was to prevent Sāmoans from ruling their own country: Berlin and London wanted Sāmoa for themselves. To do this they wanted to kill Mata’afa Iosefa and his men." - Michael Field

https://www.facebook.com/mjfield/posts/10158939846233066

We're still learning the true racist colonial history behind their myth-making and erasure.

" HELL IN HEAVEN - BOMBARDING SAMOA

On Sunday 11 August the people of Lufilufi should pause for a moment or two, at around 9am. That time will recall the moment, exactly 125 years ago on 11 August 1894, when a German warship fired high explosive shells into the village, killing and wounding many people. The Imperial German Navy cruiser Bussard was firing into Lufilufi at what was then a Saturday morning. A British cruiser, HMS Curacao was further along randomly bombarding Luatuanu’u.
Their mission, other than to kill civilians, was to prevent Sāmoans from ruling their own country: Berlin and London wanted Sāmoa for themselves. To do this they wanted to kill Mata’afa Iosefa and his men.
The wounded were in such an appalling state, Scottish author Robert Louis Stevenson opened a hospital. He wrote to Mark Twain: β€˜I wish you could see my β€œsimple and sunny heaven” now. War has broken out, β€œthey” have long been making it, β€œthey” have worked hard, and here it is – with its concomitants of blackened faces, severed heads and men dying in hospital.’
Stevenson wondered why the foreign powers did not leave β€˜and the natives be let alone, and allowed to govern the islands as they choose.’
Sāmoa has mostly forgotten this tragedy and in a perverse way, honours what the Germans did from the decks of SMS Bussard. So many civilians were wounded that the Germans sent their medical staff ashore, led by Bussard’s surgeon. The doctor treated the victims created by the gunfire of his own ship, and yet he remains an unchallenged arbiter of fa’a Sāmoa. His name was Augustin Friedrich KrΓ€mer, destined to play an uncommon role in Sāmoan life - to this day.
Another local doctor, Bernard Funk, assisted.
He was remembered with a Pacific wide cocktail … and the goldfish in Lake Lanoto’o."

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Giant prokaryote Beggiatoa spears through a colony of its smaller bacilliform cousins (2.5x speed) v.redd.it/w3nnotoysie81
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Ongoing French Colonial persecution of our Tahitian cousins, after stealing their land and testing Nukes on them.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/369669/french-polynesia-party-lashes-out-at-france-after-court-ruling

" French Polynesia's pro-independence party says President Macron's France has declared open season on its opponents and has done so without shame.

The Tavini Huiraatira party has reacted to the decision by France's highest court to declare the party leader Oscar Temaru ineligible for his assembly seat for a year because of election campaign finance irregularities.

Mr Temaru disputes the facts and says the experts advising the court found that he complied with the rules and should not be disqualified.

His party says in 99 percent of cases the court follows the expert opinion.

However, it alleges that Paris decided to punish him for recently announcing at the UN that all living French presidents were being taken to International Criminal Court for alleged crimes against humanity over France's 193 nuclear weapons test.

On his return to Tahiti at the weekend, Mr Temaru said he filed the case with the ICC for the friends he had seen die and for those still suffering poor health as a result of the weapons tests.

He was met by a crowd of supporters as well as his long-time rival Gaston Flosse, who described the move against Mr Temaru as bizarre.

Gaston Flosse added that at the same time Paris approved the campaign accounts of the ruling Tapura Huiraatira party although it had patently overspent the prescribed limit.

Mr Temaru's party likened the latest development to the case of the late nationalist leader Pouvanaa a Oopa whose 1959 conviction was quashed last week.

The Maohi Protestant Church, which called for court action for two years, told the UN tis month that knowing of the impact of nuclear testing before 1963, France proceeded with the tests in French Polynesia, in what it said was a crime against humanity.

Last week the French overseas minister Annick Girardin said Mr Temaru had denigrated France and accused him of lacking a vision for Polynesia."

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Well this sucks donkey balls as our Colonial cousins would say.

Very unimpressed with WW1 ops - clear as mud as to what you get and what you have to do. Boring as all crap too - oh just rush forward - sit there and shoot - repeat.

Once again I wonder if the people who think up this crap ever actually play the game.

On the plus side the Chieftan M60 abomination is very easy to kill - the tumour on top of it's turret sticks out like pimple on the arse of a Victoria Secrets model.

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Colonial Cousins - Indian rain [Indifusion] youtu.be/jrhDijafzVg
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Fall Fest -Reno Sparks Indian Colony My cousin sells blankets, hats and lots of other goodies . Check it out
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Get your tails up and bring it, my colonial cousins! Bring it hard!! youtube.com/watch?v=ORIhj…
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Colonial Cousin here, question about how having Royalty in the military works

How does that work? Does rank actually supersede royalty, or are the Royals just expected to act with the proper discipline expected as an Officer and a member of the Royal Family? What would happen if, say Captain Wales had a flat out disagreement with a General over something, and he just kind of said "Fuck customs and courtesy, I'm Royalty!" would he be in the right or wrong?

And I just chose Capt Wales at random, I respect that he actually led troops on the ground in combat. He did lead patrols, right? Or was he in the wire at all times? If he led patrols, did he ever take contact?

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Krishna Nee (Colonial Cousins) Cover- Masala Coffee | Music Mojo youtube.com/watch?v=zI8pA…
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Our last foster kitten happened to be the cousin of one of our forever cats (same feral colony), and you can see the resemblance! Apparently big ears run in the family!
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Centuries before inventing proper FTL humans launched dozens of deep sleeper generational colony ships to distant stars and planets. And aliens keep wondering why the hell they keep discovering the same damn species everywhere! Humans are just happy to meet their newly rediscovered cousins.
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Free bees in Fulerton, California! I'm visiting my cousin and he was going to exterminate them in his yard. Anyone willing to remove this easy-to-reach colony? reddit.com/gallery/omi7k9
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Why do women in South India have more freedom than their northern sisters? Examining the effect of colonialism, matriliny, cousin marriage, invasion, cultivation and ancestral crop yields on gender divergence. scroll.in/article/975151/…
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name this patriotic duo (wrong answers only)
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My colony is running on pure rabbit petting reddit.com/gallery/rlwmtu
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Two related countries
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Sir Thomas Dale, Deputy Governor of the Colony of Jamestown, sounds like the capitalist cousin of a certain VVitchfinder General.
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For about six months in 1769 two Irish cousins, Hugo O'Conor and Alexander O'Reilly, were the governors of Texas and Louisiana respectively. Between them they governed an area bigger than the original 13 colonies, all on behalf of Spain. shitetalkhistory.libsyn.c…
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How long did the Romulan government know about the pending supernova?

To my recollection, Star Trek: Picard is noticeably mum on the cause of the Romulan Supernova, likely in order to leave open future story possibilities. Some, including the writers of Star Trek: Online, have suggested that the supernova may not have been naturally occurring. (STO suggests it was the Iconians, if memory serves.) For its part, Picard (and to a less extent 2009’s Star Trek) vaguely imply that it was a natural catastrophe.

We know that Captain Picard left the Enterprise and was promoted to admiral expressly in order to deal with the pending Romulan Supernova. Background materials date his departure to 2381, although the show itself does not specify, and the tie-in novel The Last Best Hope actually does a couple of small acrobatics to likewise avoid specifying a date for his departure (which suggests an editorial directive to leave that part of the story vague and open for future stories), although it is clear that it is sometime in the early 2380s.

We may assume that the Federation learned of the Romulan Supernova shortly before they promoted Picard. The Last Best Hope makes clear that Romulan officials knew about the Supernova by that time as well, although the on-screen material is a bit less precise on this point.

In short, we actually have very little evidence to draw on to answer my title question. But I think it’s worth further consideration, and an examination of the possibilities.

One conceit I will draw on here – I will consistently assume that β€œthe Romulan government” refers to the individuals and groups in the Romulan power structure who were both senior enough to know top-secret information and influential enough to direct Romulan political and cultural forces alike. It is of course possible that the supernova was known by marginal scientists (for example) long before word made its way up to the Praetor. But for simplicity’s sake, I will operate under the simplifying conceit.

So: how long did the Romulan government know about the pending supernova?

#A) Only once the Federation told them.

Under this interpretation, we have a pretty damning indictment of the Romulan scientific community – an ultimate case of Romulan society reaping what it sows, perhaps prioritizing the military above all else. Picard also deepened the depiction of Romulans as deeply secretive and suspicious. This interpretation could also be used to comment on that secretiveness: β€œThe Federation was able to detect this collapse throug

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