Cohabitation (government) Puns

Hi everyone. I purchased a house back in December. My boyfriend will be moving in with me in the next coming weeks and his mom has mentioned us having a cohabitation agreement. His brother has one with his girlfriend (mind you they got a house together), but I don’t see why I should sign one on my end as he isn’t on the mortgage and the bills are under my name (granted when he moves in I will have him pay half). From what I have been reading online, there are instances where he can stake a claim in my house if we were to break up. Maybe this sounds awful of me, but I have already put so much money into my house that I don’t want him to have any sort of claim to my property if things went south.

Ultimate question is, is a Cohabitation Agreement useful if only one party has the house and mortgage under their name?

Edit: His argument is that he will not be saving much during this time, but I see it as almost any other living situation that you have to pay for. Just like renting a place, if you leave, you don’t get your money back. I also don’t want a situation where I break things off (for a logical reason) and have to give him money/buy him out

Second edit: I own a home in Massachusetts!

Basically going to do different titles of these posts based on where I want the press mods to go based on what I’m writing about. Red Flag Reloaded is national. Red Plaid Reloaded is Plaid Cymru obviously. Not sure what I want for Scotland and NI yet.

When I wrote at the top of this term how I would expect the Libertarian Party to erect standards not expected of the right in the past, I can’t help but find myself reflecting on that prediction time and time again.

What I have found most troubling is the new line of attacks on my colleagues in Plaid Cymru, and the resulting attacks on the norms that devolved governments across the United Kingdom rely upon day in and day out to function.

I’d like to muse about two sets of questions in particular.

From: Cthulu

> Has the Secretary contacted the First Minister and Welsh Government? What relationship does he intend to have with the Welsh Government given he sits in opposition to it in the Welsh Parliament?

From Mr Greejatus

> In recent months, both parties in this UK Government attacked and condemned the Welsh Government, attacking the decision of that Government to shore up the Welsh Reserve. This came after weeks of attempts to split this Government, weeks of attempts by members of UK Government parties, reaching out to members of the Welsh Government, asking them to leave the Welsh Government, and cause more instability in Wales.

> Does the Secretary of State believe that this is what the UK government should be doing, especially in light of the public's support for the Welsh Government, and the commitment of its constituent parties to seeing this Government last the term?

Devolved governments have complex and dual relationships with Westminster. This isn’t new. The most recent example I can think of of what is causing this LPUK consternation is during the last last (yeah, NI politics do be like that) Executive collapse, where despite the UUP being a major part of the reason behind the collapse, FPSLover as Northern Irish Secretary still stepped in, despite being in the same party, to neutrally preside over talks. Nobody to my knowledge complained then. So one has to wonder why, at a far less politically tumultuous time, this approach is gone.

Frankly, everytime there has been a period of what I will call “cohabitation” in a devolved office, ie, the WM government side is opposing the devolved government on the devolved level, I can’t think of any major issues that occurred. All sides

So I am buying a townhouse in my name with my money. My girlfriend is currently a student and is on the same page as me with this being my place that she will live in.

Currently we have been together 4.5 years and have lived together for just over a year. My understanding is that we are not a common-law relationship until 3 years, so if we were to break I would not have to split my assets with her at any point before then.

Is it worth it to get a cohabitation agreement before moving in to the new place? Am I at risk at splitting my assets if we were to split before the 3 years living together mark?

I am not sure how true this is but I also heard that having her sign a lease for something tiny like $1/month would also work

Hello,

I am currently away from home attending school. The only place I was able to find a room was a house that has others in the other rooms, sometimes female and sometimes male. The other tenants cycle because most stay here only temporarily for work for 2-3 months. However I am here for another year.

I want to stay because I am in an accelerated program and it is a hassle to move while school is in session. Additionally I am not sharing my room with the other tenants, nor am I in a relationship with them.

I recently read an article that coed housing is wrong, https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/cohabiting-chastely-is-not-enough

Am I guilty of this coed housing situation, and is what I am doing wrong?

Thank you for your time.

P.S. If it is wrong, please keep me in your prayers that I find new housing.

Hi guys! Can you recommend dramas where female character for some reason has to live/stay/sleep at male character's place and they don't end up together? They can be leads or secondary characters. They can be in relationship with someone else.

It'd be nice to see how they do some usual things like return together from work, watch TV together, buy grocery, cook have a dinner.

Some possible situations:

She has to go to his place because of some problem at home, something broken;

She stayed there because she doesn't have place to go and his place is her only option;

She hides there to be safe;

They work together and it's convinient to live together;

Man has some problem at night (nightmare, for example) and need her to help.

Possible rommates: friend, co-worker, brother.

Dramas like that: Player, Doctors, Love With Flaws.

Hey all, hoping to get some feedback on this, I’m not sure if I am over thinking things or if we do need more evidence.

Background: I’m on a YMS, my partner is on a student visa, both from Canada, both visas expire in October.

The plan: Apply as a dependent (unmarried partner) under my partners visa ASAP so I can retain that status when she applies for the graduate route later this year. Her university seems to think this won’t be an issue, if anyone has thoughts why that might be a problem I am open to hearing them.

Evidence of cohabitation: My understanding is that we need to prove we have been living together for the past 2 years. We have been living together since June 2018, but there are a lot of gaps in proving this for various reasons.

If we apply now, it seems we would need to show proof from June 2019 forward, which just lands at a very liminal phase in our lives. From May to October 2019, there is more or less no proof of my existence on paper. We were living with her family to prepare for our move, and did some traveling around the country before we left. I had no bills in my name, and had been unemployed since January. We have paystubs and bills from before that, and nearly every month covered from November 2019 to now.

If we got a letter from her family verifying I lived there during this time, provided some photos, and some of our evidence from earlier in the year at a previous address, would this possibly work to fill in this gap?

Thank you

I have personally noticed that a lot of korean bl series often used a cohabitation (living together) plot as a device to make the characters grow closer and I kinda dislike how they use it in a repetitive and somewhat nonsensical way.

For example, in "You Make Me Dance" a debt collector lives together with the debtor, like that's really almost impossible to happen. And in "Wish You" a music producer lives together with a newly-signed musician just to make sure he's obeying the company rules or whatever. And in "Mr. Heart" a pacemaker kinda forced the runner to let him live with him (okay, this one's kinda acceptable bcs it's in a sport college dorm setting)

However, I don't hate all bls with cohabitation plot like "To My Star" bcs it just hits different somehow and at least some bls tried to make it kind of logical like living together with your bodyguard in "Where Your Eyes Linger" or living together with your unexpected male wife in "Nobleman Ryu's Wedding" but despite all that I still stand with my opinion of it being overused

And recently I tried watching "Lovely Writer", a thai bl I know and I immediately don't wanna continue it when Nubsib asked to live together with Gene, like a lead actor moving to a writer's house, there should be other places for you to live honey.

All and all I understand that they're all a work of fiction but I'd still prefer a more realistic way of telling the story

Hello, this is my first post and am unsure if this is the right platform / use of this but here goes.

I am a first generation Indian, coming to the US when I was young. I recently graduated and started a job, and things seemed to be going well for me. I made plans to move in with my SO, but when I told my parents of my decision, they were furious. They demanded that I do not move in with her, and rather wait until marriage because that is their expectation.

Months later, I have now returned home for a week and relayed that initial conversation was me making my decision, not asking for permission, and that did not go well. My father sees me as a failure for not following his cultural/religious expectations, even after I've tried to state that I have not been raised in the same culture and do not have the same religious ties. I have tried to understand what his concerns may be or why he believes it's so important, but he keeps saying the same things about respecting marriage. I made it clear that I am committed to my SO and have full intention to marry her down the line, but am not ready for that step yet.

My mother is caught in between because she understands the modern culture and path, but cannot convince my father of anything and does not want to burden him additionally.

My family has been through a lot recently and in the past with family, especially my father, so I hate being a burden, but I have a hard time changing my mindset on this.

Is it unfair for me to follow my heart here? What else can I do? Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I bought a house by myself in the summer. I asked my real estate lawyer if he could also draft a cohab agreement for me as well, and he did. Despite trying to get some information about it and the timeline of receiving it, his communication was poor. I ended up receiving it less than 24 hours prior to possession. Here’s where it gets complicated. I wasn’t able to have my BF sign it PRIOR to moving in as there was no reasonable amount of time for him to meet with his lawyer to review it and sign. We were already living together in my apartment before the house (1yr). Now we’re in my house and while he initially agreed to sign it, for months claimed to forget to address it. And more recently just laughs at the mere suggestion of it. I’ve asked him to leave when we’ve had huge fights and he claims i can’t kick him out bc he “has rights”. But what about mine?? I tried to do the “smart” thing by getting a cohab agreement, but never imagined a grown adult could be so immature and ridiculous about it. I was very clear that signing it was a condition of living here with me, but he now refuses to sign it or leave. Had I known he’d refuse BEFORE I took possession I could have avoided this mess.

What are my options here? Does he have to leave when I ask or is he really allowed to just refuse?

(Secondary question, is that normal to receive a cohabitation agreement very close to possession? Or is it generally a couple weeks prior?)

Anyone know of any predators that can cohabitate or of any herbivore carnivore cohabitations?

Almost every source i found online only spoke of herbivore cohabitation.

And while playing around in sandbox, i've learned that cheetahs and lions don't mix, the grizzlies and himalayan brown bears don't mix, but both can coexist with siberian tigers.

EDIT: BEARS HUNT THE TIGERS, WHO KNEW?

Hippos can coexist with saltwater crocs, but the crocs will eat gharials.

I imagine that healthy adult giraffes and elephants are probably immune to predation as well, but i figured it's probably easier to ask this subreddit than try every single combination in sandbox.

Hi everyone,

I have been reading a lot in this subreddit recently and I want to thank you all for everything you shared; Everything here is really informative and it also encourages one to ask their questions! So here is mine:

I am currently pursuing a PhD in the US but I will transfer to UofC to continue my research this fall. My partner left his PhD program with a MA degree and he will be accompanying me there where he can look for a work. Since we are not married, we will try the common-law partnership route and we have some questions in this regard. Before that though, let me give a brief background on our timeline:

• We have been together for the last 6 years but we'd lived in different countries until we came to the US in 2018:
  • We visited each other and can prove this via visa stamps, visa sponsorship documents we had by then, etc.
• Right before coming to the US, we got engaged in the presence of our families but we thought we can get married later since it sounded like a distraction at that point (couldn't get married since our plans got smashed by the pandemic):
  • We have the photos and all of that to prove that our relationship is genuine rather than a convenience one.
• Until last March, we were living in separate states but since then we have been living together:
  • We lived in my place from March to September (2020) where my partner has no name in my lease, in the utility bills and so on,
  • Since September, we have been living together with both our names on the lease but there is no shared account of us since we never thought we'd need it.

The last bullet point and its sub points are where we are hesitant.

First, for the time period we lived together between March and September, he didn't have his name on anything; Yet my previous housemate, whose name was on the lease, is willing to provide us with a notarized document stating that he has lived there with us. Since proof of cohabitation has this strict 12 months minimum requirement, we are worried that this can be a problem for us when we submit our application. Can you recommend any other ways we can prove we cohabitated together for this time period or would you agree that this notarized document is good enough?

Second, for the tiem period from September to now, as I said above, we have our names on the lease but we don't have any joint account. However, we have our internet on his name while the electricity is on my name and so on. **I know I can push the utility

Hi Fathers,

I am currently living with a girlfriend (in her parents house) for the summer between college semesters. We are not sexually active and I am very clear about my boundaries. Living here was both the cheapest option for me, and the most convenient.

I recognize that the Church disapproves of cohabitation, but I was wondering what the specifics on it are. That is, are there exceptions, do certain factors diminish culpability. Is it inherently sinful, and even moreso, mortal? Further, I have no intention of moving out until school starts back again and I can move back onto campus. Would I be in a state of mortal sin the entire summer until I move?

Thanks for your time.

I’m wondering if it’s worth it to do a cohabitation agreement. So basically my partner (of 5 years) and I are both poor. LOL like we both have no savings. Don’t judge. Life is hard. We’re common law, not legally married. Don’t have the money to get married, don’t really care to get married without a nice wedding. Whatever, that’s that.

I recently came into 100g through my inheritance. I plan to use this on buying my family a house. We have 1 child together.

Would it be worth it to get a cohabitation agreement solely for this money? Can I write up an agreement myself and have him sign it? What if I talk to him about getting a cohabitation agreement and he says he doesn’t want to sign it?

Be kind.....

EDIT: What if we don’t get a cohab agreement and we split? Would I get my 100g back from the down payment?

I have a question about proving cohabitation with my fiancee. We have been living in Moscow since March 2020 (so, roughly 15 months). However, we do not have any shared bills or bank statements because my fiancee has been unemployed this entire time.

However, we do have local residence permits. Every 3 months, we go to the registry office to declare where we live – which is the same apartment. If these residence documents are translated into English, would this be sufficient evidence for the visa?

Hello reddit It's my first time posting on this site, but I have been lurking for a few months.

As the title said, my(37F) ex-husband (39M) and I are trying to work it out. We were married 5 years and together 5 prior.

Relevant background:

We have two elementary aged kids.

We separated at the end of 2017, and our divorce was final in January 2019. We did not use lawyers, and the process was not at all contentious. No one was trying to win. Custody was a no-brainer 50/50. Financial split was also beyond fair and easy.

Coparenting after separating has been mostly good. 90% of the time- though both of us have had some low points. We have spent every holiday together as a family.

We both want to try to make it work- both for our kids and ourselves. We were never super "in love" at any point of our relationship, but we have been each other's best friend and greatest supporter. Sex was and is fire. I cannot imagine loving someone more.

We have started some counseling- as that seems prudent. We obviously have some things we need to work through and figure out a better way to approach the big issues that come around.

We split due to something we thought was irreconcilable. We reconciled it during separation. We both regret having gone through with the divorce.

All that said, I am terrified of breaking the kids hearts again. We have been officially trying for a couple of months, but not letting kids know. The younger one is noticing stuff though.

The present:

Due to a lease ending in June, the topic has come up.

I think we need more time. But I also just want him here with us. We know the worst of each other. We know there aren't any lifestyle surprises or incompatibilities. I don't know anyone who has reconciled post divorce in real life- so yeah.

TL;DR How long does one need to date someone that they were with for 10 years before making the jump to cohabitation?

As I understand it, a man and woman cannot live together prior to marriage. This said, my girlfriend (soon to be fiancé) and I will be living in an apartment with two other friends, all in SEPARATE rooms. (4 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms)

Is this still considered "cohabitation" and therefore a sin?

Hi team, my partner and I are buying a home together but aren’t married yet, so we are looking into setting up a cohabitation agreement for now stipulating who owns how much of the property should we ever split up or one of us passes.

Do you guys recommend any lawyers who have helped you with a similar (or the same) document? Usually this sees to fall under family law.

Hi all. This question may have been posted before but I'm hoping to get an answer concerning our exact situation.

The details: My partner is a US citizen and I'm an Irish citizen (ROI). As an Irish citizen I have equal rights to a British citizen under the Common Travel Area (CTA) - We've been living together in a relationship for nearly 5 years and have plenty of proof - Financial support and English knowledge are not issues.

We have a question concerning the cohabitation requirement of 24 months.

We have been in a relationship for 5 years and have plenty of supporting evidence. We have lived together for the best part of the last 3 years, however we have not lived together for a continuous 24-month period. We do have plenty of evidence to show that we have lived together for well over 2 years (cohabiting for a total of 29 months). To be even more specific, in the past 30 months we have cohabited for 25 months. There was a 5-month period where we were doing long distance as I was in the process of obtaining a US visa. I visited my partner once, and we also travelled for a month together. Does anybody know how this will affect our eligibility? Is the consecutive 24-month requirement quite strict, or would they take into account the length of our relationship, cohabitation extending past this period, etc.?

A separate question: Given the cost of the visa application process, and the couple of uncertain areas we have, we have been considering paying for some legal assistance. Something like an immigration law firm who could file the application on our behalf with a higher chance of approval. Can anyone advice on how necessary this might be, and an idea of the associated costs? Also, if you know of any places where we might obtain such legal advice for free (we were thinking US embassy..).

Previous posts with more details on our situation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/n2swoa/unmarried_partner_visa_accommodation_questions/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukvisa/comments/m2s50s/eligibility_question_family_visa_for_unmarried/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This has been a very stressful time for us both so any guidance is greatly appreciated!

First post here so I hope it will be well received. I have been dating my girlfriend for a year now and it’s a long distance relationship but every time I’m with her, it feels like my half is a whole. She is absolutely the person God made for me. I’m graduating from nursing school here in May and accepted a job in her town and I would love to ask for her hand after I arrive and I know she is .

Now that Thats established, to my question - I want to see what the consensus is - is cohabitation with the intent to marry a sin since we haven’t truly made our vows? I don’t expect the engagement to last more than 4 months or so but because it’s a small town and rentals are really few and far between, it just makes a lot of sense for us to live together but neither of us want to live in sin, even for 4 months of course! Thanks for helping me through this!

Hi all,

First of all thank you for taking some time out of your day to read this!

I wanted to get some information on how to bring up to a borfriend/girlfriend the topic of living separately again when you've been cohabitating for some time.

For context, I went to confession yesterday and was warned that the act of cohabitating with my boyfriend, even in the absence of sex or behavior that's inappropriate before marriage, is a mortal sin, and can even cause scandal for others. This was something I was unaware of when I moved in with him about 6 months ago. We've been dating for about 3 years now. I've been worried about my situation and understanding this sin since yesterday.

My concerns are: How do I tell him I may need to move out without inadvertently breaking up with him? How do I not hurt him emotionally in the process? And how do I help him to not think negatively of Catholicism as a result, to appreciate the true reason we'd be separated? Any advice at all on what I can do is appreciated.

I (F54) and my partner (M58) met 15 months ago and decided to be exclusive 8 months ago. We love each other dearly, are committed to only seeing each other, plan vacations together, spend time together ... all the things couples do - except we never plan to live together. We have both been burned financially by previous relationships, we are both introverts and appreciate having our own space.

There are times I think I’d like to live together, but then I think, “Why ruin a good thing?” For me, it was the living together that seemed to be the beginning of the end of other relationships. Even if we do end up staying at the other’s place for a few nights, we see this as us each having our own investment/equity in real estate... and the possibility exists of Airbnb for one place while staying with the other. I think we both need to feel we have a place that’s our own...no financial entanglement.

In many ways, I feel more connected to him than anyone else. I think it’s because we work at our relationship and can’t become complacent over time.

Do others feel the same way?

I’m fairly new to isopods and inverts in general. I have three small groups of isopods: dairy cows, magic potions, and porcellio laevis orange (kept separately). I’ve been considering getting an ivory millipede. Would it be possible to cohabitate the millipede with a group of isopods? If so, what group should I keep the ivory with? And is there a group that millipedes would not do well with?