When does guilt by association stop being a fallacy?

I think about this a lot. Is there a line you can draw where association becomes a valid argument for, for example, moral or ethical conclusions?

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Average conversation about Islam with somebody who appeals to emotion + burden of proof + argument from ignorance + association fallacy + non-sequitur + all the other logical fallacies reddit.com/gallery/p9qqrl
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Guilt by association fallacy
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Its called Association Fallacy
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Association Fallacy much?, How is that relevant or a rebuttal to the Injury argument, Am I missing something?
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Is this an association fallacy?

Let’s say there is a political candidate. This political candidate gathers alot of support from groups with questionable beliefs. Is it fair to judge this political candidate by the fact that they appeal to an audience with questionable beliefs or is this an association fallacy?

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The Bedfellow Bind (Or why "Guilt by Association" isn't always a fallacy.) youtube.com/watch?v=ntapK…
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Dasset's CEO is presenting Bitcoin and Blockchain Fallacies this Friday in Auckland, hosted by the Blockchain Association meetup.com/blockchain-auc…
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We now return you to "What Are Guilt By Association Fallacies?" courtesy of The_Donald np.reddit.com/r/The_Donal…
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Association Fallacy at it's finest
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Critical Thinking #9: Ad Hominem Fallacy (frequently used): guilty by association, poisoning the well, inconsistencies. [clarification: It is a fallacy to attack one's character or circumstance in order to refute one's argument (instead of questioning the person's character or credibility)] [7:37] youtu.be/w35MXghMLX8
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Ibec Concerned With Piecemeal Brexit | The CEO of Irish business association Ibec has said that it is a fallacy to think that the UK leaving the EU customs union "will deliver massive new trade opportunities." tax-news.com/news/Ibec_Co…
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If excessive appeal to authority is a fallacy by association, then how can anyone argue about anything they've not experienced personally?

I was just browsing through some fallacies to watch out for and I came across the wikipedia page for "Argument from Authority." By using a source outside of your own personal knowledge, you are lending credence by association; "This source is reliable, therefore this evidence I am presenting is true," when really there is no connection between the authority of a source and the truth of the evidence it produces. How, then, can modern argument and politics exist when such a fallacy is present? You always need to rely on outside sources to prove a point!

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Is Guilt by Association always necessarily an Ad hominem fallacy? [logical fallacy]

These two articles (as well as some others) argument that guilt by association is considered as an ad hominem attack, because it targets the opponent by associating him with some negatively known third parties or figures.

But should it always be that way? What if the user of this fallacy targets the presented idea itself and not the person who tries to present\defend it?

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Is "Liars think everybody lies" a association fallacy?

I clearly remember it being another word/phrase describing that kind of fallacies better, but I'm not sure.

Sorry if this is the wrong subreddit to post this to!

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"Feminists Threaten Vancouver Debate Organizer/MRAs Get Blame & Association Fallacies" - shitthatneverhappened.txt reddit.com/r/MensRights/c…
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Is there a fallacy associated with lucky and unlucky numbers?

Maybe someone has beliefs or makes decisions around "lucky number 7" or tries to avoid "unlucky 13" etc.

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"Whataboutism" is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. It is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wha…
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Fallacies & Biases Associated With Falsely Cycling Back To Conclusions (Diagnoses)

It would be best if people in the mental health field avoided these at all cost:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_justification
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_effect_(psychology)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocertainty_effect
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-saving_bias
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automation_bias
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_effect
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
  • https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/One-way_hash_argument
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_guilt
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Circumstantial
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_intimidation
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_consequences
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What is to keep municipalities and governments from pursuing the oil industry for recompensation for the plastic recycling lie they have perpetuated since the 80s- similar as the tobacco industry lawsuit, but for costs associated with the recycling fallacy? [Serious]
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"They don’t hate everything associated with us, because they love what we create, and that’s the paradox that fuels this fallacy of equality and post racial times." -@arching_gold instagram.com/tv/CA8XR-PH…
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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without refuting or disproving their argument, which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wha…
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"They don’t hate everything associated with us, because they love what we create, and that’s the paradox that fuels this fallacy of equality and post racial times." -@arching_gold instagram.com/tv/CA8XR-PH…
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