And Then There Were None (1945 film) Puns

I just completed 'And then there were none' by 'Agatha Christie'. No brainer, an amazing book. The thrill sent shivers down my spine.

I just want my family to learn the murder mystery too. So I was looking for a good movie based on the novel.

There is 'And then there were none 1945' movie which got 100 from rotten tomatoes and 7.9/10 from IMDb. Does it contain nudity?

I want to know if there is any other movie which is better than this one.

I also found the TV series 'And then there were none 2015' but there are 2 mature scenes as rated by IMDb. I would be glad if any one could tell me which part has the mature scenes.

Thank you.

I’m aware of why the killer used their psychological tactics to freak the last person out (Last person is most guilty and deserves the most mental anguish) but my problem is at least one other party (The Rogers’s) also killed their victim in quite cold blood. Other killers would just get charged with manslaughter (like Martin). Does anyone have any theories or answers? Discuss:) 🤓 📚

Ten strangers, apparently with little in common, are lured to an island mansion off the coast of Devon by the mysterious U.N.Owen. Over dinner, a record begins to play, and the voice of an unseen host accuses each person of hiding a guilty secret. That evening, former reckless driver Tony Marston is found murdered by a deadly dose of cyanide.

The tension escalates as the survivors realise the killer is not only among them but is preparing to strike again… and again...

This is the story that made Agatha Christie the best-selling novelist of all time and is read the world over in more than 50 languages. “It was so difficult to do,” she writes, “that the idea had fascinated me.” It was an idea which is now the basis for many Hollywood horror films and has become a cliché to modern audiences, but it was Agatha Christie who was the first to do it and so successfully that the story has become her most adapted piece. (source: agathachristie.com)

Main adaptations (from Wikipedia)

• Movie adaptations:

  • And Then There Were None (1945 film), René Clair's cinema adaptation, was a successful US production

  • Ten Little Indians (1965 film), is George Pollock's cinema adaptation

  • Gumnaam (1965, translation: Unknown or Anonymous) is an Indian suspense thriller film adaptation

  • *Nadu Iravil *(1970, translation: In the middle of the night), a Tamil adaptation directed by Sundaram Balachander

  • And Then There Were None (1974 film), the first English-language colour version, directed by Peter Collinson

  • Desyat' Negrityat (1987, translated Ten Little Negroes) Stanislav Govorukhin's Russian adaptation keeps intact Christie's grim storyline and ending.

  • Ten Little Indians, a 1989 American version directed by Alan Birkinshaw

  • Aduthathu (2012) is a Tamil adaptation

  • Aatagara (2015) is a Kannada film adaptation

• Radio adaptation:

  • The BBC broadcast Ten Little Niggers (1947), adapted by Ayton Whitaker, first aired as a Monday Matinee on the BBC Home Service on 27 December 1947 and as Saturday Night Theatre on the BBC Light Programme on 29 December

  • On 13 November 2010, as part of its Saturday Play series, BBC Radio 4 broadcast a 90-minute adaptation written by Joy Wilkinson. The production was directed by Mary Peate. In this production, which is extremely faithful to the novel, the rhyme is "Ten Little Soldier Boys"

• Stage adaptation:

  • And Then There Were None (1943 ) is Chris

My brother built his home across the river

The door is always locked; the windows shut

People don’t come in

They don’t knock

They stopped visiting

The bridge became unstable; woods became rotten; bricks started to crumble

My brother built his home across a river

The home locked its door; shut its windows

He heard me knocking

He said, “come in”

I can’t hear him, maybe I choose not too

I stopped knocking

I stopped visiting

I became them

The bridge never got built

They started forgetting; I started forgetting.

Seriously, Paradox with his cliffhanger lines, the different Bens, the multiverse explained, Ben's origin explained, these two episodes are literally one the most well written episodes across all the Ben 10 series.

(I'm gonna describe ATTWN vaguely to avoid spoilers).

ATTWN was a 1939 Agatha Christie novel about 10 people who came to an island and found themselves the target of a killer. Sound familiar?

The key difference between that novel and this game is that the killing games in DR are organized by a greater party and that there are multiple killers in the game. That (or maybe it isn't, I won't spoil) is at odds with how in ATTWN, there is one killer. In ATTWN, the question is "Who is killing us all right under our noses?" While in DR it is "Who is today's killer and who is the mastermind?"

Both stories shared this interesting aspect where every chapter, there were less living characters than before, and the solution seemed to accelerate towards you with progression.

The book has been made into several movies and has seen a video game release on the PC/Wii. (Though I would strongly advise staying on a hint site/walkthrough if you play the game; the game's story, presentation, writing and voice acting is fantastic, but it is a VERY subpar adventure game with horribly convoluted and ridiculous puzzles.)

(You can read the audiobook here. And on a personal opinion, it's refreshing to hear the formalism of the 30s in today's world which is kind of culturally oversaturated with senses of immaturity and memes :P )

Has anyone ever read this book or seen one of it's later incarnations (game, movie etc.)? I've played the game and have read many parts of the audiboook, and I've seen the 1945 film. It's very very similar to DR; a select group of people trapped in a large, inescapable area fighting for their lives in a mystery story.

Am I alone here?

I've recently read Agatha Christie's And Then There Were None, and I really enjoyed how the book gave off Psychological Thriller vibes, without being scary, or "thrilling" in that sense.

I don't actually know how Psycho Thrillers work, but with this book, I liked that I was the outsider. The author didn't signal me to root for any character, and I didn't get to form a true attachment to any of them. I was simply able to observe how these people get affected by this mentally challenging situation. All while being captivated by the actual mystery.

I'd like to read more like that. Something that doesn't creep me out, but still has that element of mental terror in it. It doesn't neccesarily have to be crime/mystery.

I finished 'And Then There Were None' yesterday and, after reading through the epilogue, the crucial point of the mystery (Wargrave's fake death) doesn't make sense to me. What I don't understand is why would Armstrong think that Wargrave's fake death would help them catch the murderer? Wargrave explains the plan like this:

"It was then that I intimated to Armstrong that we must carry our plan into effect. It was simply this - I must appear to be the next victim. That would perhaps rattle the murderer - at any rate once I was supposed to be dead I could move about the house and spy upon the unknown murderer. Armstrong was keen on the idea. We carried it out that evening."

If I were Armstrong, I'd see two options:

1. The murderer is one of the guests. In this case, everyone (including the murderer) is running up the stairs to help Vera. The murderer would know immediately that Wargrave's death was fake because it wasn't him (the murderer) who killed him. He'd know that Wargrave is trying to trick him.
2. The murderer is some external person (not one of the guests). In this case, he'd also know that Wargrave was not really killed (unless we assume the unlikely scenario that there are two real murderers).

In both scenarios, Wargrave doesn't have it easier to "move about the house and spy upon the unknown murderer" whether he faked his death or not. Can someone explain if I'm missing something here?

Hi everyone! This is the official announcement of what this month's line-up is going to be. I'm planning on the general format being: two books are announced and anyone can choose which book they want to read, this way anyone who has read one of the books can read the other one.

The books are:

And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie

and

The Mystery of Edwin Drood by Charles Dickens (an unfinished novel!)

Discussion thread for each book (pre-reveal) will go up and then 2 days afterwards, a post-reveal discussion thread will appear.

We have a Discord server where we discuss which book will be picked next.

Read everything but the final chapter by August 20!

One went and choked himself, and then there were nine...

1. What was the name of the poison used to kill Anthony Marston? a. Potassium Cyanide

b. Arsenic

c. Chloral Hydrate

d. Strychnine

2. What weapon was used on Mrs. Rogers?

a. Gun

b. Potassium Cyanide

c. Chloral Hydrate

d. Ax

3. General MacArthur's wife's name was Juliet.

a. True

b. False

4. Where was Mr. Rogers when he was murdered?

a. Dining room

b. Woodshed

c. His bedroom

d. Outdoors

A bumble bee stung one, and then there were five...

5. How many different poisons were used on Emily Brent?

a. 4

b. 1

c. 2

d. 3

6. Armstrong died when he was walking on the beach, and the killer threw him into the mouth of a huge red herring.

a. True

b. False

7. What type of marble statue was pushed onto Blore?

a. Deer

b. Fox

c. Wolf

d. Bear

8. The killer shot Lombard.

a. True

b. False

One little Indian left all alone...

9. Why did Vera hang herself?

a. She was drunk

b. She was sick and tired of life

c. She thought Hugo wanted her to do it

d. She was addicted to drugs

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10. SURPRISE! The killer is:

a. Fred Narracott

b. Justice Wargrave

c. Doctor Armstrong

d. Vera Claythorne

e. Philip Lombard

Edit: looking for hints but don’t was to spoil the book about his end.

Edit 2: hold up. Didn’t read the very very end!

So, after I read "The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd" in 2019 I really wanted to get hold of a good book. So I did some research and found another one by Christie that looked promising.

And boy! What a journey it has been. I have never felt the way about reading mystery as I felt while reading that. I don't think I am ever going to find something to satisfy that urge.

A TRUE MASTERPIECE!

Hello and welcome to Spooktober!

I'm reading from a US Kindle edition, and the formatting is actually really terrible. I'm doing my best to work with it, so please forgive any errors on my part - they may stem from the bad edition!

Before I get into a summary, I'd like to address some things that were changed in various editions of this book. As many of you may know, the book has had a few titles - from very racist to not-very-politically-correct, to the title we have now. Furthermore, the name of the island itself is apparently different across different editions. The two names I'm aware of are "Soldier Island" and "Indian Island." My edition uses "Indian Island," so that's the name that I'll be using. If you come across any other differences, please do let us know!

In Summary...

The novel's opening chapters introduces us to the main cast of characters:

1. Justice Wargrave, a recently retired judge
   - victim - Edward Seton - Seton was on trial for murder and Wargrave sentenced him to death
2. Vera Claythorne, previously a mistress/nanny
   - victim - Cyril Ogilvie Hamilton - Vera was Cyril's governess, and Cyril swam out too far & drowned
3. Philip Lombard, a captain
   - victims - 21 men from an East African tribe - Lombard and others were lost in the bush; they took the food they could find and abandoned the natives to starve
4. Miss Emily Brent, a 65 year old righteous and prestigious lady
   - victim - Beatrice Taylor - Brent confesses to nothing
5. General Macarthur, an older military general
   - victim - Arthur Richmond, his wife's lover - Richmond was one of Macarthur's officers; Richmond sent him on a reconnaissance mission and he was killed
6. Dr. Armstrong, a doctor from London
   - victim - Louisa Mary Clees - Armstrong operated drunk and Clees died
7. Anthony (Tony) Marston, seems to be rich - drives a fancy car
   - victims - John & Lucy Combes - Marston ran over the kids in his car
8. Mr. Blore, creates a fake persona of Mr. Davis; he is apparently a detective paid to take a case on the island by the "host" Owen
   - victim - James Stephen Landor - Landor was a bank robber convicted on Blore's evidence. He got penal servitude for life and died in Dartmoor
9. & 10 - The Rogers; husband and wife who staff the house on the island
   - victim - Jennifer Brady - the Rogers worked for her and she was in ill health, they couldn't get a doctor to save her in time

Each guest or employee has been summoned to Indian Island by so

Hi! I really love the whole “stuck somewhere”/isolation mystery and there’s a murderer on the loose theme, very similar to And Then There Were None, which is my absolute favorite. Can you guys suggest any books like that?

Some that I’ve read are: -An Unwanted Guest (liked it) -They All Fall Down (didn’t like) -The Guest List (liked it) -Death in the Family (kind of liked it) -Castaways (was ok) -Ten (pretty good) -The Troop (liked it)

Any isolation mystery or horror would be great!

Can’t remember any more but am looking forward to any suggestions. Thanks!!

We know >!Judge Wargrave!< was responsible for the murders, and >!he!< said >!he!< did it in a particular order. The least guilty to the most guilty, IN >!HIS!< EYES. But, in which order would you have killed them, and why? Tell me in the comments! :))

As we huddled against the back wall, I suddenly remembered the big fight I had with Xavier before we graduated. We were alone in the second-floor bathroom next to the library when Xavier said it.

“Chloe knew,” he said, a smug, shit-eating grin on his face.

I spun around and grabbed the collar of his uniform. “What the fuck did you just say?”

“I told her your secret.” His mouth twisted into a contemptuous sneer, a wild look in his eyes. “Do you want me to tell you her reaction?”

“You—” I shoved him against the wall. The anger and indignation boiling within me blurred my vision.

He laughed like a maniac. “That’s what losers who steal people's girlfriends get.”

I had forgotten what happened after that. The next thing I knew, I was rushing out of the bathroom with a bruised nose, trying to stop the bleeding with a clump of toilet paper. Xavier remained in the bathroom, still smiling despite the pain he was in. I thought he would rat me out to the discipline master, but when our teacher asked about his injuries, he simply played it off.

I wondered why Xavier acted in such an odd way then. It was almost as if he just wanted to be beaten up by me as a way to redeem himself. And maybe I indulged him because I also wanted to redeem myself for that same something.

Back then, who was the real imposter? And who was the real victim?

Xavier was the first one to break the tense silence. “...what are we waiting for?”

“For?” I answered tersely.

“Isn’t it obvious?” he retorted, pointing towards Venessa. He didn’t explicitly state his intention—he likely didn’t dare to—but we all knew what he was alluding to.

Chloe merely remained quiet. I kept my mouth shut too. Perhaps this is what they mean by “silence is golden”.

Xavier let out a grunt and stood up. He grabbed a chair nearby and hurled it at the window. It slammed into the window pane with a loud crash and fell to the floor.

“FUCK!” he screamed and began kicking random tables aimlessly. Seriously, what the hell was he expecting?

“Shut up man, I’m the one who should be cursing here,” I interjected. “Why don’t you try typing long ass paragraphs on a flip phone, huh?”

He didn’t answer me as he picked up a table and jammed one of its legs into the crack, in a hilarious effort to stem the gushing blood.

“What’s he doing?” Chloe murmured.

“He’s beginning to believe.”

“Believe?”

“It’s just a joke.” I let out a small laugh. Chloe gave me a puzzled look before giggling.

“Fucking idiots,” Xavier mutt

I just finished rereading And Then There Were None after twenty years, and I was still surprised by the ending and had a question about it. >!I was really impressed at how when it seems just Vera and Lombard are left, the reader is left mistakenly assuming that Lombard is the murderer (when really he thinks it's Vera and she thinks it's him). But looking back on that scene after finishing the book, I'm confused by some of their dialogue. Vera asks: "How was it worked--that trick with the marble bear?" To which Lombard replies: "A conjuring trick, my dear--a very good one".!<

>!1) Why did Lombard not realize it wasn't Vera from her question about the bear? 2) And why did he "explain" the murder to her, if he wasn't responsible and thought that she did it? !<

I look forward to seeing what others think. I was so happy to find this subreddit--reading/rereading Agatha Christie novels has really been helping me get through the pandemic, and luckily there are a lot of novels to savor!

It's getting colder, the leaves are turning beautiful colors, and I'm craving pumpkin EVERYTHING! Who's ready for our spooky read? The winner of the spooky read is Agatha Christie's And Then There Were None.

The survey we posted about a month ago showed a good amount of readers would prefer just weekly check-ins, instead of check-ins every 3-4 days. Figured I'd give that a try, see how it works out! With this specific novel, that means we're reading about 77 pages per week. Let me know what you think as we progress through the month - if once a week is good, or if you prefer the more frequent check-in posts :)

Schedule -- Check-ins are all on Wednesday's

October 7th: Chapters 1-4

October 14th: Chapters 5-8

October 21st: Chapters 9-13

October 28: Chapter 14 - end

Here is our marginalia!

In Summary...

Chapter 9 opens with Lombard, Blore, and Armstrong reaching the conclusion that the guests are being murdered - all of these deaths can't be accidental and/or all suicides. Everyone suspects everyone else. Lombard and Blore wonder if Armstrong didn't give Mrs. Rogers an overdose of that sedative... Of course, each man is outraged when blame points his direction. Armstrong points at Lombard and his having brought a gun to the island. Lombard reveals that he wasn't invited to the island in the way everyone assumed; instead, a boy paid him a hundred guineas "to come down here and keep my eyes open--said I'd got a reputation for being a good man in a tight place." He's kept this secret because he was anticipating some trouble.

The guests gather for lunch, but General Macarthur is still out sitting by the sea. Armstrong offers to fetch him... but finds him dead. His body is carried inside, and Armstrong proclaims the cause of death is blunt force trauma to the back of the head. The guests try to eliminate some of themselves from suspicion based on evidence, but one's profession, character, and gender don't count as proof of innocence... But no one can be completely and indisputably proven innocent. They must all suspect one another and be alert at all times.

Lombard and Vera chat, contemplating who could be the killer. Lombard says he would only kill someone for personal gain, not for vengeance. Lombard most suspects Justice Wargrave, and Vera thinks it's Armstrong. At the same time, Armstrong and Wargrave are discussing getting off the island and how impossible it would be to do so in the current weather conditions. Wargrave has no intention of being murdered in his bed: now that they all know what's happening and have been warned, they can be on alert. Emily Brent is alone in her room and reading the Bible, but decides to write instead. "Her eyes grew vague and filmy. The pencil straggled drunkenly in her fingers. In shaking loose capitals she wrote: THE MURDERER'S NAME is BEATRICE TAYLOR..." As the storm rages outside, the guests gather for dinner. Emily Brent mentions losing two skeins of grey wool. Rogers then asks if anyone has seen the scarlet bathroom curtain, for it has disappeared.

The next morning, the guests sleep in late... for Rogers has not come to wake anyone or brought any tea. Rogers is nowhere to be found. They find that one of the Indian figurines is missing before they find Rogers dead in the wash-house out in the yard,

Hey there, I just finished ATTWN, and I'm really sad because I was deeply unsatisfied. I really liked the prose, and the characters. I was so involved that I read it in one night, but when I got to the end I felt cheated.

It's been hard for me to express why, but I think it comes down to the intent of the author. I guess for me, the joy of a great murder mystery is determining exactly why it could've only been the murderer who committed the crimes, but when it came down to it in ATTWN, nobody even discovered who the murderer was, and it was only after two epilogues that we were given any explanation.

All of it felt deeply unsatisfying to me. In my head I feel like Agatha Christie only wrote the book to trick the audience. It's not that I'm upset I didn't figure it out. I just don't think any average reader would figure out who it was.

What average reader would come to the conclusion that the doctor and judge worked together to fake the judge's death? I can't picture any character doing that for a moment because it accomplishes nothing. Wouldn't the murderer immediately sniff it out and do something about it?

What are your thoughts on the ending? I feel like I wouldn't be upset about the ending if it had been any of the "final four" or if the author had foreshadowed more, maybe using the poem or the China figures to hint that the judge never died.

Does the ending feel cheap to any of you?