Researchers published a security research paper at https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293.
They found vulnerabilities in all Z-Wave chipsets and US. CERT/CC has provided an official vulnerability Note VU#142629 at https://kb.cert.org/vuls/id/142629.
They provide a DEMO VIDEO listing the possible attack at https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293 (video is below the Abstract)
Please check this and patch your devices to avoid exploits.
Seems like there are currently only 2-3 brands with Z-Wave hubs, and the Aeotec (was SmartThings) seems to always be out of stock. Is it a supply issue or a demand issue?
Is the Hubitat the best one that is also readily available now?
Afternoon all,
I'm just wondering what is a good, reliable Z-Wave controller for HA on an HA Blue? I've been using a Zooz ZST-10 700 with Z-WaveJS but been having random issues with devices not responding and lately a bunch became unavailable. I contacted Zooz Support and they said:
"Currently there is a known issue with the 700 series sticks that are causing some issues on Z-Wave networks. The community is tracking the issue here: https://github.com/zwave-js/node-zwave-js/issues/3906
As a result, your Zooz ZST 10 700 S2 may frequently drop nodes and require a network heal to bring nodes back. We are waiting for an update from Silicon Labs and will provide an update to the Z-wave stick as soon as it's available.
Here are the findings we received from the JS developers so far:
Lately we’ve been seeing an increasing number of reports with similar behavior. All of them are on 700-series sticks.
I can’t reproduce myself (so take everything here with a grain of salt), but from what I’ve gathered so far, this mostly seems to happen on networks that:
- are relatively busy (lots of unsolicited reports like motion sensor, power meters)
- are large and/or
- contain some battery-powered devices
It seems that when lots of reports reach the controller in a short time, the 700-series sticks are not able to send any messages.
There are a few inquiries submitted to the Silicon Labs about the above issue since it seems to be a problem with the 700 series protocol rather than with particular devices. "
So apparently the 700 series stick isn't quite ready for prime time. Therefore I'd like to find a plug and play replacement. Which, of course, leads me to my next question - if I replace my Z-Wave controller will I need to re-pair all my devices? I certainly hope not.
Thanks for the help!
I’m in Z-Hell.
I have 9 Z-wave devices, all working, on ZWaveJS. Today I’m unable to include either of 2 new devices. I’ve tried everything multiple times, including having devices right next to the controller.
I enter “Add device” in the ZWaveJS integration and put the device in include mode. Nothing happens. After a while the integration times out with nothing found; the device shows an LED code that inclusion failed. I’ve tried watching the ZWaveJS log in another browser window, level set to Debug, and nothing shows up relative to inclusion; I do see occassional traffic with a couple of sensors.
I’ve tried restarting HA.
I’m out of ideas, the most frustrating thing is having nothing in the logs. Since I’ve failed with 2 devices from 2 manufacturers I’m thinking either ZWaveJS or my Zooz controller is in a bad state.
Where can I go from here?
As I think more about my eventual need to replace the 140+ Insteon switches I have, I have been reading up on Zigbee and Z-Wave. As this group collectively seems to know all, I figured I'd stop in and get some group perspective on this.
It seems that Z-Wave is more proprietary to certain manufacturers, but still a fairly open standard that has wide adoption. Zigbee is an open standard with wider adoption. Zigbee also seems to be technically superior in some ways. Is this a fair assessment of these? Is one or the other going to "win" at some point and does one seem to be gaining on the other?
I have been looking at and reading up on the Leviton devices. They make nearly identical products for both Z-Wave and Zigbee. The one exception seems to be a 4-speed fan control switch that is only available as Z-Wave. Anyone have any experience with Leviton and have any thoughts? What other brands are worth considering?
I am currently moving all of my Insteon automations to HomeAssistant and plan for HA to be my primary platform for all kinds of wonderful things. My ISY-994 does all my Insteon work now and supports Z-Wave natively, also. Any opinions on hubs/interfaces? Is it common to run both Z-Wave and Zigbee devices in the same setting?
I am starting to feel like I should have done all Leviton Z-Wave instead of Insteon when I made that decision about a year and a half ago, but I really loved Insteon at the time. I didn't see it coming that they might be in trouble as a company.
I'd love to hear any advice, etc.!
Hi, I am looking to update several z-wave switches in my house. I had the Jasco 12727 switches for a multitude of things and they worked fine for the jobs I had but a lightning strike managed to fry all but one of them. Is there another basic toggle switch that looks like a regular light switch like these available some place? It seems as though these have been discontinued and my wife likes the standard up/down and on/off US light switch, not the flatter wide switches that many companies offer.
I have enough of the enbrighten z-wave dimming switches to replace all three dumb-toggles in the bathroom: primary light, red lamp light and then the third switch runs a fan.
Hoping to be able to automate all three, but I'm anticipating a fun buzzing noise from the fan if I throw a dimmable switch on there (which I'd like to avoid)....
Do I need to find a non-dimmer version? Or am I overthinking this?
I'm currently using the HUSBZB stick for both my zigbee and z-wave controllers. I'm strongly considering moving to an ethernet based zigbee coordinator that I saw in a thread on here the other day.
I was just wondering if there is an ethernet based z-wave coordinator as well as I would love to ditch the stick entirely. I use the zwavejs integration for my zwave devices.
I'm a current user of a SmartThings hub for my zwave lights and locks and have this integrated to my Harmony Elite hub. I can set a "watch tv" which will dim my lights, close my shades etc.
I'm setting up this automation for my dad and given SmartThings no longer sells hubs can someone recommend another zwave hub that I can add to Harmony Hub so it can control the lights/shades? Or should i just buy a used SmartThings hub off ebay and roll with that?
My concern is i want it to be a long term solution that just works (i hate having to always be tech support!)
Thanks!
Completely new to most "Smart Things" aside from a few smart plugs.
We bought a house, and the previous owners were big in to home automation (the guy worked at Honeywell). We don't have a hub yet (and are contemplating getting one at all). Our power went out the other day and we haven't been able to turn our outside lights on. I've tried resetting the switch by turning on three times then off three times quickly, but no dice. Is there a way I can use the switch as just a normal switch or do I have to yank the thing in favor of a 69 cent mech switch until we decide if we want a hub?
Edit: ZW4003 Switch
I have a Honeywell z-wave thermostat. I have it setup via zwavejs2mqtt. When I change the temperature in Home Assistant, it appears to change at first, but then after like 15 seconds it goes back to the old temperature. But if I do it again, it sticks and doesn't change back. I'm guessing that since it is on battery power, it is in sleep mode and the attempt to change is being lost while it wakes up and then it "updates" back to its last state.
Is there any way for me to prevent this?
This is not the typical "do I have to re-pair everything" question.
I'm moving a bunch of Inovelli switches from a Nortek to a Zooz 7 stick. I'm trying to re-set up my Inovelli Scenes ZWaveJS subflow using ZWaveJS2MQTT.
This is the architecture:
- Supervised HomeAssistant, ZWaveJS2MQTT add-on (original instance), Nortek stick all installed on a NUC using HASSOS. ZWaveJS2MQTT is using the legacy ZWaveJS integration for the front end. The topic in MQTT is set as zwave.
- ZWave2MQTT (new instance), Mosquitto, Node-Red, and Zooz stick installed on bare-metal Ubuntu server. The topic in MQTT is set as zwave7.
The MQTT broker is the same for both instances of ZWaveJS2MQTT. The bare-metal Ubuntu server.
Currently, the original instance of ZWaveJS2MQTT works just fine. I can specify the Node IDs in the subflow and they work as expected. example payload: zwave/Bedroom/status: {"time":1640680308313,"value":true,"status":"Alive","nodeId":25}
I migrated one switch to the new stick. I have it running on a Node-ID that is not being used by the original instance and the Node-ID ("nodeId": 3) shows up in the MQTT payload. zwave7/Theater/status: {"time":1640557367063,"value":true,"status":"Alive","nodeId":3}
The migrated switch shows up in HA as a device and responds to toggles in the Dashboard.
Everything up to this point is as expected.
However, when I add the nodeId to the Inovelli subflow, I get no results. I put a debugger on the trigger events: all node using event type: zwave_js_value_notification. I see events for switches on the original instance but not the switch on the new instance.
I assume my issue is related to the HA configuration, but I'm pulling my hair out trying to find it.
What step am I missing?
Hi guys - would like to create automations that react to my dog barking if my wife and I are not home. Any suggestions on how to go about this? I was thinking that the easiest could be to integrate a z-wave sound sensor of some kind; any recommended products? I was also thinking I could set up a webcam and pull sound data via ffmpeg / RTSP stream, but would rather not put cameras in the house. Any suggestions or approaches appreciated. Thank you
Last night I was trying to turn off a light from my HA app and I kept getting an error: Z-Wave error 202: Failed to send the command after 3 attempts (Status Fail) (ZW0202) . I tried a different light and got the same thing. I restarted HA and it worked.
Then I went to bed and I have a Google Home routine (Time For Bed) to turn off lights, set an alarm, etc. It turned off all lights except my under cabinet lights. Told GH to turn off that light, it said OK but light stayed on. Went back into the HA app and tried and I kept getting that same error. I restarted Z-Wave JS, restarted HA - same error. Light would not go off. I finally had to go turn the switch off myself. This morning I woke up, asked GH to turn the light on and it worked fine. Obviously I did nothing overnight - so what changed? Why did it work this morning but not last night? This isn't the first time it's done this. Most times (probably 90-95%) it works just fine, but that remaining 5-10% I get this error.
I've included the error from the logs. Any help would be appreciated.
"Logger: homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection
Source: components/zwave_js/switch.py:83
Integration: Home Assistant WebSocket API (documentation, issues)
First occurred: January 10, 2022, 9:38:35 PM (6 occurrences)
Last logged: 7:37:44 AM
[281473149216368] Z-Wave error 202: Failed to send the command after 3 attempts (Status Fail) (ZW0202)
[281472914657344] Z-Wave error 202: Failed to send the command after 3 attempts (Status Fail) (ZW0202)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/websocket_api/commands.py", line 185, in handle_call_service
await hass.services.async_call(
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/core.py", line 1495, in async_call
task.result()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/core.py", line 1530, in _execute_service
await handler.job.target(service_call)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity_component.py", line 209, in handle_service
await self.hass.helpers.service.entity_service_call(
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/service.py", line 663, in entity_service_call
future.result() # pop exception if have
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity.py", line 896, in async_request_call
await coro
*File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/service.py",
... keep reading on reddit ➡I am planning on upgrading from the AeoTec Z-Stick 5 to the Zooz ZST10 700 stick this week. It will be arriving on Tuesday. I have a stock install on HassOS with Z-Wave JS, is there an easy way to migrate to the new stick or do I need to completely redo everything? I know you can download a backup from the stick now, but its a completely different stick with a different chipset, can I restore the backup on the new stick?.. please say yes.. haha.
Not asking for help, just kinda venting. Yesterday we had a power outage. Preceeding the power outage, there were like 5 brownouts within like 2 minutes. I noticed after them, before the blackout that on my dashboard, 5 of my lights were missing. All of my GE/Jasco on off z wave switches (46201) switches lost their device and entity names. So now I have to go through and locate and rename them all.
Does anyone know why this might have happened? The raspi HA is on is protected by a UPS.
ETA: For more info. I am using HA OS on a Raspberry Pi 3B, using the zooz z stick 7 and Zwave js integration/add on. All of my devices stayed connected, with S2 security. Just the names were reset. The only devices affected were the GE on/off switches. I have 2 GE dimmers, which were unaffected, a GE Outdoor plug switch, a zooz ZEN76, and a ZEN77, all of which were unaffected.
I'm curious what the community feels are the best options in 2021/2 in this space for home assistant? I'm going through a "home security" kick at the moment and oddly enough my non-maker SO would rather I look into a DIY solution as opposed to paying for some 3rd party service.
All of the "you should/n't pay for an outside service" debating aside, does anyone have any glass break sensors they'd recommend? I'm ready for a zwave/zigbee/wifi solution as I have devices already set up with HA.
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
my homeasssistent pi is in the basement. When I put a z wave usb stick in it in order to control z wave devices, how can I make sure, that I also can control devices in other floors? Is z wave strong enough through floors? Or should I put an additional z wave usb stick in the floors, but how do I connect them to the homeassistant pi? Do you have experience with it?
Edit: thanks to the comments below, I gave it another try, without worrying about the key. I decided to first update both the HA OS and the HA core instance first, however. Since I had so few integrations/devices already, I figured if a bunch of stuff broke, I’d be fine starting over anyway. So after that, in the integrations tab, the HA was detecting something (maybe the zigbee/z waveusb stick?) and I tried to integrate the z wave one. It asked for my S0 key and a few versions of my S2 Key (doesn’t exist yet?) and I left it blank and hit submit, but it said it failed. I then went to add a new integration, chose Z Wave JS, and it installed exactly how I expected, detecting the USB stick as well as the outdoor smart plug! It also detected a 3rd node, which might have been the old lock, that was never properly excluded. I deleted that node as a “failed device” for now. I did not attempt to integrate the Zigbee part of the stick yet, so we will see how that goes later. Looking forward to getting better at this, I hope soon!
I am new-ish to HA (started setting it up in summer/fall 2020, then stopped) and I want to jump back in, but already messed up, I think.
I have my HA instance on an R Pi with the Nortek stick for Z Wave/Zigbee. I had installed Z Wave only so far, the old way (not the beta way), to use with a Z Wave smart lock that came with the house. We later took out that lock and replaced it with the Nest smart lock, but I didn’t bother taking it out of my HA because I was considering installing it on the detached backyard studio.
Well, when the X Mas lights went up this season, which have a Z Wave outdoor smart plug that I used with them, I was reminded that I needed to update the HA to the new way to do Z Wave.
I went in and uninstalled the Z Wave the way that seemed intuitive to me, in the integrations page, and then went into the yaml file and deleted the couple lines of code. Then I followed instructions for the new way to install Z Wave. It didn’t seem to work, and it asked me for a security key. Only then did I remember that because I had a smart lock, I had set that key up, and I realized I might need it. Because my yaml was so incredibly short, I don’t think I saved a copy of it. I thought I might have the key saved somewhere, but can’t find that either.
What’s the best course of action? I’m looking to reinstall Z Wave to use this smart plug ASAP, and also be able to purchase and install future smart home devices that use Z-Wave.
After reading up, I decided that going with Z-wave or Zigbee sounded more reliable, but after looking at prices, the wifi switches are significantly less expensive. For example, I can get a Z-wave switch for like $45 to $60, or I can get this switch for $12 that has almost a 5 star rating:
Why should I go for a Z-wave or Zigbee switch? Can someone explain why they are better to the point that it's worth spending $30 or more extra dollars per switch? Or should I just go with these wifi switches? Or am I missing the really good deals on Z-wave/Zigbee switches?
I purchased a GoControl CECOMINOD016164 HUSBZB-1 USB Hub
And want to try z-wave / ziggsbe light switches. I feel a bit overwhelmed with the available options , as I’m coming from tasmota flashed Tuya devices.
I simply want light switch on/off. Nothing fancy
Edit : looks like people are suggesting using newer , separate z-wave / zigbe sticks so for now I’m going to cancel this. I don’t want to buy this $45 dongle and then end up buying newer stuff anyway.
i'm running HA on an unraid VM.
When i plug in my zigbee stick and edit my vm, the usb stick shows up as Cygnal Integrated Products CP2102/CP2109 UART Bridge Controller (10c4:ea60).
Unfortunately, this is the exact same handle as my z-wave usb stick.
When i ignore this and open ha and try to add ZHA as an integration, i get 3 options:
/dev/ttyS0 - ttyS0, s/n: n/a 2. my z-wave usb stick 3. manually (ezsp, xbee, znp, z8gate, and deconz)
Any suggestions on the best way to integrate this into HA while also using my z-wave stick?
I've decided to bite the bullet and switch from Insteon to Z-wave. Like most people, I started with X-10 then switched to Insteon, where I've been using it since 2005. The reason I'm switching is the lack of replacements and new Insteon products for the last 3 years. The "big" announcement last July from Smartlabs of the Nokia stuff is a joke. I love Insteon, but can't keep scrambling to find replacement devices as they crap out one by one.
I've decided to go with the ISY-994i ZW+ as I can replace Insteon devices with Z-wave slowly over time. The ISY unit supports both Insteon and Z-wave (and in the same scenes).
I'm new to this, but can't seem to find Z-wave equivalents of some of my modules. I have a ceiling light (that used to be a fan with a pull cord) that is hardwired with power on all the time. I use the Insteon "InLineLinc" for that, which is a inline dimmer module. Can't find this in Z-wave. I also use several of the Insteon mini-remote tabletop keypads in 4 and 8 switch versions. Can't find anything like this either.
Can anyone point me to some sources or sites where these types of devices might be found?
Hi all. I have a fireplace stove with a rather plain thermostat. It's a basic looking gizmo with a physical slider for adjustment.
Wondering if there's such a means to incorporate a Zigbee or Z-Wave style thermostat in its place. There's only 2 wires, considerably less than my actual furnace thermostat that I replaced recently, and as a result I'm not sure if I would need something different for a case like this. Any hope?
Living in Denmark i dont have access to the Ring Smoke Listener or the First Alert Smoke Detector.
So i bought a Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector with z-wave plus.
I have added it to the Ring app. And when i use the test button on the detector, it shows as sensor failure in the Ring app.
I dont get any notifications.
I was hoping to receive a notification, so i would know if smoke is detected, when im not at home.
Have anyone tried connecting a similar smoke detector? Or know how to control the unit/notification through Ring?
I am researching adding smart locks to my home. I already have a smartThings hub and use it for all my z wave light switches. So I am looking at z wave versions. Is there any smart lock on the market that allows temporary codes to be set via the smart things app? Seems like this is limited to the wifi versions.
If not can the wifi version be added to smartThings for automations?
Last option would be the yale x nest lock, but again could smart things be used for automations?
I use zwavejs2MQTT (not using MQTT though) with the z-wave js integration. Unfortunately when I upgrade to the latest core it tells me that my zwave server does not support the 12 api schema. The integration is then broken and none of my devices show in HA. I know I saw other people ask about this on Discord but I never saw an answer. Can anyone please point me in the right direction to getting the integration to talk to the add-on?
I'm currently running a mini desktop with a Conbee II and was wondering if I wanted to add Z-Wave would it be best to go with a HUSBZB-1 and return the Conbee II or would it be better to add the Zooz 700 or Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5 and keep what I have? Or is there another option I might have missed?
When I migrated from the original Z-Wave integration, I decided to use the new "Z-Wave JS to MQTT" add-on. I followed a guide (can't find it now) that said I need to set up the "Z-Wave JS" add-on first, before installing the "Z-Wave JS to MQTT" addon and stopping/disabling the "Z-Wave JS" add-on.
The problem is that even though I have "start on boot" and Watchdog disabled, the "Z-Wave JS" add-on occasionally turns itself on, which causes an issue/conflict with the "Z-Wave JS to MQTT" add-on and my Z-Wave devices all become unavailable.
Do I still need the "Z-Wave JS" add-on installed? Did I ever really need it?
I'm trying to find a way to view (1) the Z-Wave signal strength of Z-Wave devices connected to Abode, and/or (2) whether the device is connected directly to Abode or connected through a Z-Wave repeater? Is there a way to do so either using the Abode app/website or through an integration such as Home Assistant?
To be clear: The Z-Wave devices are connected to Abode, with the Abode Gateway as the Z-Wave hub. I'm just trying to view more details about the connection. (Specifically, I'm trying to determine whether one of my Z-Wave switches that randomly disconnects from Abode for several minutes to up to 3 hours at a time is doing so because the switch is defective or because it has a weak signal that is getting disrupted for some reason. All my other identical Z-Wave switches are working fine.)
Anybody using the newer Ring extender for a Z-Wave+ network which needs a stronger mesh?
We'd prefer Aeotec Range Extender 7, but they're mostly out-of-stock (and nearly twice the price), plus and it isn't clear that a 700 chipset extender will be a huge improvement for a network of mostly 500-chipset (and some OG "zwave" pre-plus) devices?
Anybody know what is actually different that Ring calls this a "second generation" range extender?
So I have a few battery devices and I've followed the directions to wake the devices but for some reason it doesn't register with zwavejs (no biggie).
I recently had a storm roll through and it knocked out 3 of my light switches. I've since replaced them but noticed a slow down in multi-device requests on my network.
To fix the issue I tried healing the network but that doesn't work because these battery devices don't wake up. Can I just heal one device at a time? Is there any real difference doing this vs a whole network heal?
I'm an idiot and bought zwave instead of zigbee. Bought from u/riddlerthc from this sub, hence his timestamp and not mine. Everything works and is as expected unless noted otherwise. Take it all for $250 shipped.
Hub
1x SmartThings Hub IM6001-V3P01
Plugs
1x Leviton DZPA1
5x Leviton DZPD3 (one might not work, trouble pairing so will throw it in)
Switches
4x Leviton DZS15-1L
1x Leviton DZ15S-1BZ
1x VP0SR-1LZ (bought for 3-way i think)
Outdoor Plugs
3x GE ZW4201
Researchers published a security research paper at https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293.
They found vulnerabilities in all Z-Wave chipsets and US. CERT/CC has provided an official vulnerability Note VU#142629 at https://kb.cert.org/vuls/id/142629.
They provide a DEMO VIDEO listing the possible attack at https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293 (video is below the Abstract)
Please check this and patch your devices to avoid exploits.
