“If you will it, there is no dream” - Theodore Herzl
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In 1903, Theodore Herzl proposed the idea of turning modern day Kenya into a Jewish state. Was this actually a viable option?
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Theodore Herzl wrote a play in 1902 about how he imagined Palestine/Israel utopian state would look like, what do you guys think of it?

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_New_Land

Plot introduction

The novel tells the story of Friedrich Löwenberg, a young Jewish Viennese intellectual, who, tired with European decadence, joins an Americanized Prussian aristocrat named Kingscourt as they retire to a remote Pacific island (it is specifically mentioned as being part of the Cook Islands, near Rarotonga) in 1902. Stopping in Jaffa on their way to the Pacific, they find Palestine a backward, destitute and sparsely populated land, as it appeared to Herzl on his visit in 1898.

Löwenberg and Kingscourt spend the following twenty years on the island, cut off from civilization. As they stop over in Palestine on their way back to Europe in 1923, they are astonished to discover a land drastically transformed. A Jewish organization officially named the "New Society" has since risen as European Jews have rediscovered and re-inhabited their Altneuland, reclaiming their own destiny in the Land of Israel. The country, whose leaders include some old acquaintances from Vienna, is now prosperous and well-populated, boasts a thriving cooperative industry based on state-of-the-art technology, and is home to a free, just, and cosmopolitan modern society. Arabs have full equal rights with Jews, with an Arab engineer among the New Society's leaders, and most merchants in the country are Armenians, Greeks, and members of other ethnic groups. The duo arrives at the time of a general election campaign, during which a fanatical rabbi establishes a political platform arguing that the country belongs exclusively to Jews and demands non-Jewish citizens be stripped of their voting rights, but is ultimately defeated.

Major themes

Herzl's novel depicts his blueprint for the realization of Jewish national emancipation, as put forward in his book Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) published in 1896. Both ideological and utopian, it presents a model society which was to adopt a liberal and egalitarian social model, resembling a modern welfare society.[3] Herzl called his model "Mutualism" and it is based on a mixed economy, with public ownership of the land and natural resources, agricultural cooperatives, welfare, while at the same time encouraging private entrepreneurship. A true modernist, Herzl rejected the European class system, yet remained loyal to Europe's cultural heritage.

Rather than imagining the Jews in Altneuland speaking

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Theodore Herzl…

“If you will it, it is no dream”

Any sober Big Lebowski fans in the house!?

5 days… the longest I’ve been sober in about 3 long agonizing years. It hasn’t been easy. Not by a long shot. The night sweats, insomnia, insane dreams, the shakes, headaches, frequent sudden visits to the bathroom. However, I’m happy to say the worst seems to be behind me now. I have a long way to go yet, I just need to keep asking myself, “is it worth getting that beer buzz on only to end up blacking out and rinsing and repeating until I have to suffer horrendously for days”? The answer, I am certain, is fuck no it isn’t!

Ladies and gentlemen, IWNDWYT!

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"If you will it, it is no dream"- Green Lantern/Theodore Herzl
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If you will it it is no dream-Theodore Herzl. #1 SEED
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Theodore Herzl be like
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David Matlow - the biggest collection of Theodore Herzl memorabilia in the world

Listen to Episode 52 of HatRadio! with special guest, David Matlow who has the largest collection of Theodore Herzl memorabilia in the world. I so enjoyed this schmooze with David, a humble and honest man, a driven Zionist, someone who readily shares the gifts he has. Like Herzl, David believes, "if you will it, it is not a dream."

https://link.chtbl.com/gwJ1ithv

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Benjamin Theodore Herzl
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Very rare video of Sultan Abdul Hamid II and Theodore Herzl, founder of Zionism when he begged for kindness and touched the feet of the Sultan to let Jews buy land in Palestine and live there. v.redd.it/5jbkangz4nh41
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Very rare video of Sultan Abdul Hamid II and Theodore Herzl, founder of Zionism when he begged for kindness and touched the feet of the Sultan to let Jews buy land in Palestine and live there. v.redd.it/5jbkangz4nh41
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"We Zionists will spirit the penniless population across the border of the Jewish state by denying it employment ... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."—Theodore Herzl on the expulsion of Palestinians thehypertexts.com/Zionist…
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Theodore Benjamin Ze’ev Herzl
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In 1903, the British Colonial Secretary offered Theodore Herzl's Zionist group 5,000 square miles of British East Africa. Imagine if Herzl had accepted the deal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bri…
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The Israel of Theodore Herzl (1904 - From the Nile to the Euphrates) marxists.de/middleast/sch…
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BookTalk: the jewish state by theodore herzl

so i know it may not be the greatest time to post right before rosh hashanah, but i want to have this discussion while it is still fresh in my mind.

I have just finished reading the jewish state by theodore herzl and would like to hear you guy's thoughts on it if you have read it, because i was very surprised after reading it to find that i found the book to in fact be terrible...

For a pamphlet that is the founding document of an ideology that has had such profound and lasting effects on the world and on our people, i found it to be naive, racist, (but not in the ways you'd think) Utopian and just all around idiotic.

What were your thoughts on it? did you find similar things? did you feel the opposite? let's talk.


a bit about my self: despite my bundist flair i do actually consider myself to be a moderate zionist and i lived in israel for a year and did shana alef in yeshiva. i consider my self modern orthodox(ish i am figuring out where i am) and am a sophomore in university where i am majoring in anthropology and minoring in journalism, and have just returned from a month abroad studying Yiddish language an culture at the university in Vilna.

And i read the jewish state as part of an effort i began in yeshiva to keep my self well rounded and not get lost in the yeshiva world. that i would read fifty books which i would learn from (i.e not twilight, if you want the exact criteria just ask) 25 jewish and 25 secular, i expected to finish it by the end of my year in yeshiva, and now its over a year later and i'm only at like 45 but don't worry the siyum is coming soon. lot of yontif reading time in the next few weeks.

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“Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.” - Theodore Herzl (Founder of Zionism)
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Theodor Herzl el origen del sionismo político youtube.com/watch?v=L4SSA…
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In "Der Judenstaat" (The Jews' State) published in 1896, Theodor Herzl theorizes that if the Jewish Zionist Congress were to ask the Argentinian government for a fertile plot of land, in which they can establish a Jewish state, the Argentinian government would happily agree. Is this true?

Is this true, or was Herzl simply using this to convince Jews that establishing a Jewish state is possible?

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Theodor Herzl, considered the father of Political Zionism, mounted on a white donkey in Port Said, Egypt, on his way to visit Ottoman Palestine in 1898 [1116X1387]
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ZIONISM'S IMPERIAL BACKGROUND: "[The Jewish State] would form a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism." — Theodor Herzl v.redd.it/hpn9q2rm9pe71
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Tombstones of Simon and Rebecca Herzl, grandparents of Theodor Herzl, founder of Zionism - Zemun, Serbia reddit.com/gallery/qa1jrj
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Theodor Herzl - Father of modern ISRAEL (and my Hero) youtube.com/watch?v=wcSDo…
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Filistin mi? 🇵🇸 Arjantin mi? 🇦🇷 -Theodor Herzl

Filistin'i mi, yoksa Arjantin'i mi seçmeliyiz? Biz, kutsal kitapta bize verileni ve Yahudi halkının seçtiği toprakları seçmeliyiz. Dernek her iki noktayı da göz önünde bulundurmalı.

Arjantin geniş arazileri olan, seyrek bir nüfusun yaşadığı, ılıman iklime sahip, yaşamak için son derece uygun koşulların bulunduğu çok güzel bir ülke. Arjantin Cumhuriyeti, arazisinin bir kısmını bize bıraksa bundan mutlak surette kazançlı çıkacaktır. ancak kesinlikle Yahudilerin bu bölgeye sızması bazı sorunları tetikleyecek ve Arjantinlilerle bizim aramızda ciddi sorunlar çıkacaktır.

Filistin bizim her zaman hatırlayacağımız ve tarihi bağlarla bağlandığımız vazgeçemeyeceğimiz evimiz.

Filistin ismi halkımız için olağanüstü güç duyguları uyandırır ve son derece çekicidir. Eğer Sultan Abdülhamid Han Hazretleri bize Filistin'i verseydi, biz Türkiye'nin büyük sorunlar yaşayan maliyesini yeni baştan düzenleme görevini üstlenebilirdik.

Biz Türkler'in Asya'lı köklerinden aldığı barbarlığa karşı koyan bir sınır karakolu olurduk ve son derece güvenli bir kale oluşturabilirdik.

Biz bir devlet olarak bize varlığımızın garantisini verebilecek bütün Avrupa devletleriyle iyi ilişkiler kurabilecek tarafsız bir devlet olmalıyız. Çıkar ilişkimizi her zaman korumalıyız. Yahudi Devleti'nin hiçbir devlete karşı gönül bağı olamaz.

Yahudi Devleti - Theodor Herzl

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This Day in Victorian History Theodor Herzl arrives in Jerusalem (1898) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The…
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Sultan 2. Abdülhamid ve Theodor Herzl ilişkisi

Theodor Herzl Osmanlı’nın dış borçlarını üstlenmesi karşılığında Filistin’e Yahudi göçüyle toprak verilmesi için, Sultanla ortak arkadaşları olan Newlinski aracılığı ile bir mesaj gönderdi.

1896-Herzl, anılarında Abdülhamit’in Newlinski eliyle ilettiği cevabı paylaşıyor: “Eğer Sayın Herzl sizinle benimle olduğunuz kadar dostsa ona bu konuda başka girişimde bulunmamasını telkin ediniz. Bir adımlık toprak bile satamam, zira bu topraklar bana değil, milletime aittir. Milletim bu imparatorluğu savaşarak ve kanıyla sulayarak kazandı. Bizden ancak kanla koparılabilir… Yahudiler milyarlarını saklasınlar. İmparatorluk bölüşüldüğünde Filistin’i bedavaya alabilirler. Ancak cesedimiz paylaşılabilir canlıyken parça koparılmasını kabul etmeyeceğim.”

Herzl, anılarında, bu söylem karşısındaki hissiyatını şöyle ifade ediyor: “Sultanın samimî ve yüce sözleri beni duygulandırdı ve sarstı. Bütün ümitlerimi söndürmesine rağmen ölümü ve parçalanmayı tahmin eden ama buna rağmen son nefesine kadar pasifçe de olsa mücadele etmeye kararlı kaderciliğinde trajik bir güzellik vardı…”

Saray Herzl’e Üçüncü Dereceden Mecidiye Nişanı verilmesine karar vermiştir.

Daha sonraki yıllarda Herzl Abdülhamidin huzuruna çıkma fırsatını buldu. Sultan ona, “Ben daima Yahudilerin dostu olmuşumdur, daima da öyle kalacağım. Gerçekten ben sadece Müslümanlara ve Yahudilere dayanmaktayım. Diğer tebaam hakkında aynı emniyeti besliyorum diyemem” dedi. Abdülhamit zulüm gören Yahudilerin iltica edebilmeleri için imparatorluğun bütün sınırlarını Yahudilere açık tuttuğunu söyledi. Bu da Sultan’ın 1896 yılındaki meşhur tutum beyanının aralarındaki dostluğu zedelemediğine işaret ediyor.

Saray Herzl’e Birinci Dereceden Mecidiye Nişanı verilmesine karar vermiştir.

Herzl İstanbul’dan ayrıldı ve günlüğüne Abdülhamit’e ilişkin şu notu düştü: “Sultan’ın benim üzerimde bıraktığı intiba onun zayıf, gevşek fakat tamamen iyi bir insan olduğudur. Onun korkunçluğuna da inanmıyorum, sinsiliğine de. Onu daha çok soyguncular ve reziller, dejenerelerden müteşekkil bir çemberin içinde derinden bedbaht bir mahpus gibi görmekteyim. Bu çevredir ki her türlü rezilliği yapmakta ve onun namına yapmış gözükmektedir. …Yıldız Sarayı kliği tam bir mücrimler çetesidir. İcra ettikleri her cürümden sonra şuraya buraya dağılıyorlar ve sanki her şey hükümdar adına yapılmış gibi hiç kimse mesul olmuyor.”

26 Aralık 1901 – İsviçre’nin Basel kentinde 5. Siyonist Kongre başladı. 1902 yılının ocak ayındaki Kongre’den Sultan A

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TDIH: May 14, 1948. Israel is declared to be an independent state and a provisional government is established. Immediately after the declaration, Israel is attacked by the neighboring Arab states. Photo: David Ben-Gurion declaring independence beneath a large portrait of Theodor Herzl.
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Were Theodor Herzl and David Ben-Gurion Atheists?
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Were Theodor Herzl and David Ben-Gurion Atheists? /r/Zionism/comments/njmhg…
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Theodor Herzl was the OG chad
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I started to make rings out of these 1984 Theodor Herzl coins. I really love how they come out.
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Part one: It all started during the Ottomans Era, and the jewish “Theodor Herzl”. He had the ideology of creating a nation and country of Jews across the globe. Herzl demanded a land in Palestine from “sultan Abdulhamid ||” who was the guardian of Palestine and he rejected his request for sure.
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Actual quote of Theodor Herzl ז''ל
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Theodor Herzl Stars in a New Turkish Series - The Last Sultan youtube.com/watch?v=dPp2n…
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