Streltsy Puns

I can think of a few.

Aztec Jaguars and Eagles: Always felt that the 10% morale bonus they're currently represented as is a bit underwhelming.

Swiss Pikemen: Italian states and obviously switzerland should get the option of recruiting these special infantry units though only in defensive wars. They could get reduced damage and extra morale.

Old Guard Grenadiers: A super elite united that any country undergoing the revolution can recruit.

There's no better feeling than fighting a bitter war with the enemy, both sides depleted of their manpower and treasury. Just when the enemy thinks they have a breakthrough you raise streltsy and have 30 fresh troops come down and beat their asses.

want to see peoples thoughts on the design and if a halfway between the original streltsi design and new design could be feasible.

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While sitting by the fireplace one day, Vassily suddenly slaps his own brow. "What kind of rotamaster leaves for three months and then forgets to check on his men when he returns?" He groans at himself as he stands up, massaging the bridge of his nose. "Come on, Wojtek. Let's go find Hegar." He gestures for the bear to follow and sets off in search of the Dragonborn general, searching first the War Room and the Medbay.

So as the mongol empire you can get Banners from your primary culture whatever one you picked.
Is it possible to get Streltsy and Banner calv in your perfect ratio.
And what would the best way to do this. form russia play get all the land needed and then release and play as great horde form mongol empire then somehow get streltsy goverment type back?

I've been playing russia a lot recently and almost never use streltsy and delete them after wars most of the time since they push me over force limit. So what is so special about them/what's the difference to normal infantry?

Is there any reason to use normal infantry as a Russian nation with Third Rome? As far as I can tell Streltsy are objectively better (10% more shock damage) and on top of it all are free to recruit. Is there a drawback to them I don't know about? Cause if not I'll probably just faze out all of my non-Streltsy infantry.

I'm asking because of pictures like this, which depict every Streltsy with a bardiche, and because Wikipedia says that "Streltsy had identical uniforms, training and weapons.", implying that every Streltsy had a bardiche.

If the answer is that, indeed, every Streltsy had a bardiche, I have a follow-up question: did the Streltsy also carry sabers? Wikipedia states that Streltsy carried sabers; a lot of pictures show them with sabers; a lot of reenactors carry sabers, but if every Streltsy carried a bardiche, then why would they need a saber as well?

Hello!

I am playing Odoyev and find myself in situation when I've won big war against Muscovy and now try to recover.

Is it a good idea to disband Streltsy unit for cheaper stab boost or every time I press the button "Raise Streltsy" debuff increases?

Or it dissapears over time if i disband all Streltsy?

COMRADES HELP.

I usually don't use mercs because they're expensive and russia has a lot of manpower. Should I use only streltsy infantry?

Is it a bug that when, playing as Muscovy, when I integrate my vassals, if I inherit Streltsy units that they raised, it increases my stability cost? If I disband the Streltsy units, does it remove the modifier? Is the modifier simply based on how many Streltsy units you have in your army, regardless of whether you raised them or not? I had not played any of the Russian states yet on the patch, so I'm pretty confused about it.

I'm reading Robert Massie's "Peter the Great", as a recommendation of this sub (it's wonderful!), and I have settled on a question about the Streltsy uprising of 1682 in Moscow, where the Strelsky (basically the Army of Moscow) slaughtered many of Peter's (soon-to-be the Great!) friends and family on the rumor that Peter's half-brother, Ivan, had been murdered. This later turned out not to be true (gasp!), and that the bloodshed was more likely encouraged by the conspiring of Ivan's sister with other Miloslavsky's who considered Ivan's claim to the Tsardom to be more legitimate (and also, surprise again, more politically favorable) than Peter's. After the 'traitors' were tortured and killed (among them, Peter's uncle and a well-respected tutor), the balance of power was in flux, and needed to be settled between the Streltsy and the royal family. The Streltsy were eager to return to their position of subservience, but wished to do so as venerated heroes. This little summary/memory-jogger is all adapted from Massie.

In the reconciliation process which followed the uprising, the Streltsy demanded that a column be erected in the Red Square to celebrate their 'defense' of and 'loyalty' to the royal family, upon which would be inscribed the names of the mob's victims, that they might be permanently labeled as traitors, who were stopped [and butchered] in their treasonous tracks by the heroism of the Streltsy. Hope the irony isn't lost here.

Massie comments that "the government dared not refuse, and the column was erected". However, it seems somewhat dubious to me that the Boyars (during the time of Peter and Ivan's joint-rule), and much less a grown-up Peter (who never really forgave the Streltsy for the utterly pointless X-rated murder of his family members) would permit this column to stand in public for very long, as an offensive reminder of noble blood spilt by the hands of a group of ultra-conservative soldiers.

I've [casually] searched online to try to find other sources mentioning this most ironic of columns, but having failed I turned here! Which leads me to ask...

Was the column ever really built? Was it ever put on display? If so, for how long? If it ever stood, then who took it down, when did they do it, and what were their reasons, if any? If it exists today, where is it held?

As a side note -- thank you, this is my first post here, but I've lurked for a long while! Many thanks for all the good reads :)

edit: very brief summar

For those unaware, a leaker posted screenshots and details about Warhammer 3 on /twg/ on 4chan that were rather swiftly deleted. Since it might be a pain to scroll through the comments, I thought it would be easier just to compile what leaker anon wrote here in one spot. If you wish to see one of the screenshots, please check this thread.

Mighty thanks to /u/lemonsofliberty for finding most of these. Please give them a mighty pat on the back for scrounging around for these. I'm just a dummy who copy and pasted it to one thread for everyone's convenience.

>The battle was called Assault on the Brass Citadel and the map is said citadel.

>It was a battle with Kislev vs. Khorne Daemons. It was apparently part of the campaign, but the formula was a bit different than in other TW titles.

>Basically, you had to go through the map with your forces and secure capture points, while being assaulted by waves upon waves of chaos. Kinda reminded me of some historical battles from other games, like Teutoburg in Rome 2, but with actual mission objectives. Battle was wild af, by the time my first units got to the last objective, I was still skirmishing near the first one.

>I didn't play all of WH1&2, so not sure how these work, but the mission reminded me of Dawn of War for some reason, with the map being structured very similarly. It was more of a "siege" since each of the capture points was also part of a bigger fortress, which you could reinforce by spending supplies/points. You could also use them to buy new units mid-battle, upgrade units you already have and build shit like towers etc. They literally use words tower defence in the PR. Also, enemies were coming in waves with the clock showing you how much time you have until next attack.

>In general it's supposed to be something entirely new, for boss battles in the campaign.

>There wasn't a "LL" for Chaos, just a boss at the end which I think was a random bloodthirster (similar to the one from the trailer, called Exalted Greater Champion). For Kislev it was Katarina (she's literally surfing on ice she's creating like iceman from xmen and she cute). There was also lower-level lord, Vitali Slekta or sth like that - a guy riding big bear with tusks/horns. Bear Cav is op as fuck and they have a lot more type of bears in general, including big one that pukes ice. .

>Katarin has thick accent "The Peopl

Most of the KCCO and Paradeus/white faction enemy units follow a themed naming scheme. Entities and elements of Greek mythology in the KCCO's case and European warriors/soldiers in Paradeus' case.

 

KCCO Theme Naming

• Cyclops: The one-eyed giants of Greek mythology; perhaps the most famous one, Polyphemus, was blinded by Odysseus in Homer’s Odyssey
• Aegis GA: Athena’s shield often depicted as bearing the head of Medusa
• Cerynitis: Giant deer with golden horns; was captured as Hercules’ third labor
• Hydra: Seven-headed dragon/serpent; lived in the swamp of Lerna; slain as Hercules’ second labor
• Typhon: Massive serpentine/draconic abomination; battled Zeus for supremacy of the world and was defeated
• Dactyl: Race of male beings related to Cybele or Rhea; associated with smithing, healing, and knowledge
• Centaurus: Half-men, half-horse beings associated with archery; likely originated from encounters with horse-riding nomads
• Orthrus: A two-headed dog that guarded a giant’s cattle; slain by Hercules; brother of Cerberus
• Minotaurus: Giant bull-man and son of King Minos of Crete; lived in a labyrinth; slain by Theseus
• Argonauts Armored Train: Group of warriors accompanying Jason on his quest for the golden fleece; named after their ship the Argo which is also the namesake of the constellation Argo Navis
• Argonauts Train Segments: The constellation is made up of smaller constellations named after ship parts

>>- Carina: hull/keel
>>- Vela: sails
>>- Puppis: poop deck

• Kratos: God of strength; often associated with tyrannical authority
• Acheron: The river of woe; one of the five rivers of Hades/Greek underworld
• Coeus: Titan representing the heavenly axis that the skies revolve around; often associated with wisdom, rationality, and intelligence
• Ares (Sinner): The Greek god of war

 

Paradeus Theme Naming

• Strelet & Strelet+ (Gunner): Named after early modern Russian arquebusiers/musketmen; they also used swords, pikes, and poleaxes; also called streltsy; translates as “shooters”
• Rodelero: Early modern Spanish infantry; wielded a sword and shield; their namesake is the rodelero's shield called a “rodela”
• Doppelsoldner: Type of German landsknecht named for the fact they were paid double for doing a more dangerous job; supposedly used zweihänder swords to disrupt pike formations; also used pikes, arquebuses, and crossbows
• Uhlan: Polish-

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So, I know it's kinda early, but I couldn't help but notice that Kislev units cards seem to be made by the same artist, who did all recent DLCs ones. Meaning, bland background, units sometimes too small and indistinguishable, washed-out colors.

For example, I cannot understand what's going on in the cannon card and Ice Guard has a completely weird pose. I must admit, they are getting better, but it's still not up to WH1 and WH2 vanilla ones.

What do you think?