Reformed Esperanto Puns

One of the great unexplored auxlang vectors is to design a language specifically to be a destination for machine translation in order to get over the hump of having materials in the language. Esperanto II looks to be mostly cosmetic changes(thus translation could be accurate forwards and backwards) and I'd be nice if someone could get his "Twelve lessons of Esperanto-II for beginners". I'd like to look at other similar proposals too.

Hi, first i want to say that I am very interested in learning Esperanto though the one thing that puts me off is that the gender issue is not resolved in Esperanto. I found this Wikipedia article about a proposal to solve that issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_reform_in_Esperanto Is there a discussion about a possible reform in the Esperanto community? Are people using the proposed suffixes? I would be happy if someone could give some information on this

I've seen several post and comments these last days advocating for a reform of esperanto. I found a really good answer on lernu on the topic. I can't link directly to the comment, so I copy it here :

> It's true that language reformists aren't generally welcome in Esperanto. Every serious Esperanto speaker will acknowledge that the language isn't perfect, and if you ask nicely, they'll usually tell you which parts of the language they'd have done differently if they were Zamenhof. However, Esperanto speakers have also seen the schisms of the past, and stability is highly prized today. The prevailing view is that since everyone's view of a "perfect" language is different, it is counterproductive and pointless to try to "fix" Esperanto, since everyone's idea of perfection is different. It is generally agreed upon in the community of Esperanto speakers that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Since the language works very well for its purpose in its current form, most Esperanto speakers agree that we should keep speaking it as-is and let it evolve naturally within the rules of the Fundamento (new vocabulary additions are ok, modifications in use of grammar are ok within the limits set by the Fundamento). Anyone interested in comprehensive reform projects, even reforms of relatively "minor" asepcts of the language (like the gender system) has come 100 years too late and should not expect a positive reception.

> Furthermore, I should add that a general rule of thumb of these forums that dicussions of reform proposals are heavily frowned upon in the national language subforums. Anyone who wants to discuss changing the language (an idea that is in itself a nonstarter in most of the Esperanto community, but leaving that aside for a minute) should direct herself or himself to the Esperanto subforums. I'll put it this way - if someone isn't even capable of intelligently discussing their ideas on how to 'improve' the language in Esperanto, then this person's knowledge of Esperanto is not considered to be good enough to have a properly informed opinion on what supposedly needs 'improving'.

> Most people speak Esperanto because they want to use the language and enjoy it, not spend countless hours dickering over how to improve it. Such Esperanto speakers get quite annoyed by those who keep insisting on changing the language to some untested version (today's Esperanto has worked for more than 100 years). It's going a bit far and I agree that it's a bit

I decide to provide a guide on what reforms of Esperanto is acceptable as an Europe auxlang. This should also help decide which Esperanto-inspired auxlang should be selected.

On the phonology, the complex phonotactics do not need [much] reform due to the ease of production by adult learners; [possible reforms include the neutralization of sibilant contrast outside of simple onset and the monophthongization of vowels after a coda sonorant]. Reforms in suprasegmental features is not needed except for some possible simplification of the intonation rule. For the consonant inventory, some sibilant contrasts and /x, h/ contrast could be neutralized preferably to /s, tʃ, z, x/. The diphthongs could be reduced to /ai, au/.

On the grammar, most of the inflections should be omitted and replaced with function words; the word class markers could be exceptions. The function of case marker could be omitted and the word order should be more fixed.

The vocabulary should be more open to borrowing and lexicon variation by registers could be allowed to meet the demands of different social context. The orthography do not need any reform but reform to more faithfulness to IPA is acceptable.

When talking about languages in a Pan-American federation, the most sounded option might be a trilingual state, with Spanish, English and Portuguese, but also having English as the language of education and business for it's role as the international lingua-franca.

Though I can see the reason behind this proposal I really think it would be important to look towards others directions, for instance, this three languages are really regional, wich means that it could spur a sense of social discontent, and ethnical tension. Wich in a so pluricultural state, is the last thing you want, therefore i suggest that a better solution would be a neutral lingua-franca inside the territory.

Esperanto.

Probably its a good bet, and I'm sure that some of you though about it, it's the colang with the biggest community and it's a neutral language, but there is where I personally find the flaw in it, Esperanto it's a language that most people have to learn from scratch, it was intended in that way for no advantage in a international or European scenario, but I don't find that kind of problem in the Americas, French, Portuguese & Spanish are all from the same family, and English has a lot of loanwords from French, for this and the fact that most of the people are reluctant to learn another language, I find Esperanto, feasible in a Pan-American situation but not the ideal.

Interlingua.

I personally think that Interlingua it's a better option for this matter, it's often heard the motto: “Interlingua, The language that every latin language speaker and highly educated English speakers can speak”, though i find it's orthography the problem here, it has certain ambiguity that to a English or Latin speaker might not be inconvenient, but for a native American or a Migrant could be a problem, therefore i think that a orthography reform would beneficial but don't know if it could affect it's recognisability with the other languages.

Papiamento.

It's a creole language between Spanish and Portuguese, with Dutch English and African loanwords, i can see it working because creole languages tend to have a very straight forward grammar, but don't know how the American francophony would receive it, it has two way of spelling it, the Aruba way, more related to how Spanish and Portuguese are spelled, and the Bonaire & Curaçao way, more related to its phonetics, i personally incline more to the last one, for the whole point of being a neutral language.

New languages.

I also could

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

Do your worst!

How the hell am I suppose to know when it’s raining in Sweden?

Mathematical puns makes me number

Ants don’t even have the concept fathers, let alone a good dad joke. Keep r/ants out of my r/dadjokes.

But no, seriously. I understand rule 7 is great to have intelligent discussion, but sometimes it feels like 1 in 10 posts here is someone getting upset about the jokes on this sub. Let the mods deal with it, they regulate the sub.

We told her she can lean on us for support. Although, we are going to have to change her driver's license, her height is going down by a foot. I don't want to go too far out on a limb here but it better not be a hack job.

They were cooked in Greece.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

He lost May

Now that I listen to albums, I hardly ever leave the house.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

It really does, I swear!

And now I’m cannelloni

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

And boy are my arms legs.

But that’s comparing apples to oranges

Put it on my bill

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

They’re on standbi

BamBOO!

###Underwhelmed

 

The relative underperformance of certain nationwide agricultural initiatives demonstrates that the country had spread itself too thin. With the portions of the plan concerning specific projects having found much greater success, a more individual focus will be adopted in future. Projects and developments will be carried out on a provincial level, under a Provincial Development Scheme to haul the primary and secondary sectors out of the 19th century.

 

###Like Drinking Castor Oil

 

With the Cultural Revolution in full swing, Chinese-language literature once again prospers. However, there dawns a Sword of Damocles, hovering over all of Chinese language and culture. With the continued advancement of the computer, significant pressure continues to be put upon the Chinese character. There have even been whispers of the computer as the “executioner” of Chinese language - and perhaps our venerable culture would follow. The Language Reform Committee of China, already responsible for developing a massive simplification of existing characters to extend their viable lifetime, is coming under increasing pressure to divine a computer-compatible Chinese.

 

Some have suggested that following Turkey’s example and latinizing may be required, in order to save precious bytes and make it possible for printers with limited detail to print the Chinese language. Discussion has gone beyond just pinyin, including the possible necessity of adopting English, or even Esperanto, so that the age of computerized administration does not leave China behind. Others suggest finding a pinyin-like compromise system in line with Japan’s “kana”. Generally, the language debate continues on, with no champion of the Chinese character having yet materialized.

A play on words.

Calcium, nickel, neon

My daughter, Chewbecca, not so much.

Pilot on me!!

Christopher Walken