What will happen to the red book of westmarch when the new season hit? Wil it remain unchanged? Reset (rewards and all) or maybe change to another story, like "The hobit" series?
So yesterday I had an idea that I am super psyched to start. My plan is to make a legitimate Red Book of the Westmarch. As in, rewriting the Hobbit and LOTR with ink on some replica parchment paper and wrapping it up in a red leather cover. I'm looking for some things I should definitely include in it. For one, I want to put notes from Sam, Frodo, and Bilbo in the margins of the pages. I also want to trace original maps and such, as well as use the original version of Riddles in the Dark instead of the newer edition version. My plan is to buy the Annotated Hobbit. Any thing you people think I should keep in mind before I start this?
I've been practicing my Bilbo-font writing and I have an idea in the back of my head to write out the "discovered" version There and Back Again as Bilbo would have written it, instead of just copying The Hobbit as we have it written by Tolkien. Is there a way to guess or figure out how Bilbo would have written the story after his adventures?
does anyone happen to have a template for just the "floral" looking design of the front of this book? would be greatly appreciated thanks!
The Hobbit written by Bilbo and the LotR written by Frodo (maybe Sam as well) as well as what Bilbo translated from the elves. Did he translate the entirety of the Silmarillion? Just the Great Tales? Maybe Unfinished Tales as well?
I'll try to explain what I mean. Bilbo wrote a large portion of the Hobbit and LOTR and passed it on to Frodo, who then passed it on to Sam when he went to the grey havens. I think I recall Frodo using notes and other settings to finish the book. I have a few questions of the "writing" of the Red Book.
Did Tolkien write in slightly different styles to indicate a switching of hobbit authors? There would have to be a very in-depth analysis I imagine of his prose to substantiate this.
Pippin had some solo doings in Minas Tirith with Beregond and his son. Those stories must have been recounted by Pippin to someone for Frodo/Bilbo/Sam write in the book. The time in Minas Tirith itself seems very much a Pippin told story (/r/thathappened). He is greated into the mess hall as a Hobbit Prince and given as much food and ale as he wants. Then, he has a very grandiose encounter with Beregond's son where he acts tough and thoughtful, very opposed to his previous demeanor in the other books.
This part of the story feels very much told as a grand story by Pippin because no one was there to call him out on it. What do you all think? I've been rereading the lotr thinking of the perspective of the writing of the Red book, so this question intrigued me enough to ask online.
Thanks!
Tolkien always intended for the Lord of the Rings to be set on our earth in the distant past. An example of this is according to canon the Silmarillion was translated by Bilbo. The Red Book of Westmarch is occurring to canon where all the stories of middle earth come from.
Now Aragorn was known while as King Elessar to have made many copies of Bilbo's Red Book.
Now when Aragorn became king he founded the house of Telcontar (meaning Strider in elvish), taking the name King Elessar Telcontar.
Over thousands year the family name Telcontar lost its last syllable, making it Telcon. This then evolved into the spelling of Tolkien.
This would make Tolkien descended from the ancient kings, and from Beren and Luthien giving him distant elven and maia blood.
He then inherited the Red Book of Westmarch, and published it into 'The Lord of the Rings' and other works.
NOTE: I am not trying to say that middle earth is in any way real, just that Tolkien purposely gave Aragorn the name Telcontar to create a in univerise explanation of how the Lord of the Rings were published.
EDIT: the spelling of Aragorn in the title in wrong, damm spell check.
My fiance and I finished a Lord of the Rings marathon over the weekend, and she said the one thing she wants is an authentic copy of "There and Back Again". She said it absent mindedly, so I know she's not expecting anybody to get it for her, but I KNOW that would be the perfect christmas gift. However, here's my problem.
Everywhere I have looked is either just a blank journel with a replica cover of the book, or the Lord of the Rings Trilogy with a replica cover. What I'm looking for is an authentic replica of the book, with 3 different authors (Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam), with the maps, with Sam's elven poems, the works.
I completly expect to pay several hundred dollars for one, and I'm okay with that, but I just need to find a damn copy. Does anybody know where I can find one? Thanks!
Has anyone seen a purchasable copy of this http://www.indyprops.com/pp-rb.htm
I am asking in the literary sense. Is Tolkien literally pretending he obtained his own character Bilbo's journals of histories? Just to add an additional flair of believability? Remember, I am new to this.
Hi, never been here before, wanted to ask you guys for some help. My boyfriend is a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and so I'm hoping to surprise him by getting him the Red Book of Westmarch for Christmas this year, but all I've been able to find was this collectors edition of the Lord of the Rings. Does anyone know if I'd be able to find an actual recreation of the Red Book anywhere? Thanks so much.
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/111-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-i-the-return-of-the-shadow
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/112-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-ii-the-ring-goes-south
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/124-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-iii-the-treason-of-isengard
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/125-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-iv-the-journey-of-the-ringbearers
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/144-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-v-the-war-of-the-ring
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/145-lord-of-the-rings-the-book-vi-the-end-of-the-third-age
I have been searching for somewhere to watch these, but all links have been deleted. If someone who knows where to get them could message them to me, I will be eternally grateful.
Hi, never been here before, wanted to ask you guys for some help. My boyfriend is a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and so I'm hoping to surprise him by getting him the Red Book of Westmarch for Christmas this year, but all I've been able to find was this collectors edition of the Lord of the Rings. Does anyone know if I'd be able to find an actual recreation of the Red Book anywhere? Thanks so much.
