It was determined that a part of the Luwian hieroglyphic inscription belonging to the Hittite King IV Tudhaliya period was used on the door jamb of a house in KaraΓΆren village of Emirgazi district of Konya. arkeonews.net/3-300-year-…
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Hittite deity Ala (Luwian goddess) - VOTE for your GOD today! Check thousands of mighty Gods on RELIGER and VOTE for them! Religer - biggest religion poll on-line religer.org/vote-for-your…
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What cultural and religious similarities did the Hittites, Luwians, Lydians, Phrygians and Trojans (indo European speaking bronze age civilizations in Anatolia generally ) share with the Mycenaeans and later archaic Greeks which trace back to a pre-indo European substrate? reddit.com/r/AskHistorian…
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Petra Goedegebuure | Luwian Hieroglyphs: An Indigenous Anatolian Syllabic Script youtube.com/watch?v=fOd_h…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/JuicyLittleGOOF
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Luwian Studies

Hello, first post on this lovely subreddit.

I went off into the deep end lately with the Bronze Age and its collapse and eventually stumbled upon the "Luwian Studies" seemingly headed by a Dr. Zangger since 2014. I am not a historian but I love reading and learning about history. The only book I possess on the subject is 1177 written by Eric Cline, but reading some of the sections on that site left me scratching my head and I have a feeling that their explanations are just too tidy and in some cases counter-factual.

I have searched for Zangger on here already just to see what the general opinion of him is, and it seems mixed. I have not seen any post about this site/foundation specifically so I apologize if it has already been discussed. Also I am aware that the texts clearly separate "current state of knowledge" and their suggestions, but suggestions/educated guesses are what build history until we reach some better explanation so I don't think that can be used a shield against critique.

My general feeling reading is that their explanations are very one-dimensional, usually Luwians did X -> led to established fact Y. Some examples: Luwians colonised Etruria (and seems to cite the Aeneid as a fact), Luwians destroyed Hittites, Alashiya and northern Syria, Luwians influenced Phoenician development, Luwians attacked Egypt, etc. It paints the picture that a king in Mira single-handedly set the events in motion that led to the Bronze Age collapse, an explanation that ignores much else that we appear to know now, such as ongoing environmental and social factors. If I did not know better I would guess that the authors were Luwian fanboys, but it feels so weird to talk of such in academia.

So what's the take among professionals? I understand that there is no, and can likely never be a, consensus regarding this period in history, but I would like to see if some of the more outlandish claims are as easily debunked as I suspect they are.

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The Sun, the Moon, and the Stars as seen by Hittites and Luwians youtube.com/watch?v=5950z…
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Luwian/Trojan soldiers around the time of the Trojan War
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What was Luwian and who were the Luwians youtu.be/m2Kt90QoTYA
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TIL about Santa, the Luwian death-bringing god, who was called upon in curses to feed an enemy to his dogs or to eat the enemy himself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luw…
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Archaeologists decipher 3,200-year-old stone telling of invasion of mysterious sea people | The 29-metre limestone frieze, found in 1878 bears the longest known hieroglyphic inscription from the Bronze Age. Only a handful of scholars worldwide, can read its ancient Luwian language. independent.co.uk/news/wo…
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The Sun, the Moon, and the Stars as seen by Hittites and Luwians youtu.be/5950zu32n9E
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πŸ‘€︎ u/This_Is_The_End
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Ancient Anatolia: A Captivating Guide to Ancient Civilizations of Asia Minor, Including the Hittite Empire, Arameans, Luwians, Neo-Assyrian Empire, Cimmerians, Scythians, Persians, Romans, and More amazon.com/Ancient-Anatol…
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New inscription found in Luwian phys.org/news/2020-02-arc…
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An Overview of Luwian Civilization youtube.com/watch?v=1DNyA…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ByzantineBasileus
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Luwians role in the Agean civilisation?

The Luwians, while the bronze age collapse, where a significant population. With the century old fixation on the Minoan city-states and the Hatti empire there is hardly to come by of information.

What is presently known of how the Luwians fit into the Agean civilisation? How many scriptures has been found and how much of this been translated and evaluated?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Hubertus_Hauger
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In what ways does the grammar of Luwian differ from that of Hittite?

I’ve not been able to find any relevant sources on the differences between Luwian and Hittite - at least none both trustable and comprehensive. I am somewhat familiar with Hittite, but I am curious to how Luwian is different in regards to grammar.

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Varpalava(king of Tuyana)'s praying in front of Tarhunt,late Hittite,8.cen. BC,İvriz/Konya Ereğlisi,İstanbul Archaeological Museums. Weather god called as Tarhunt by Luwians who were extinct native people of Anatolia,Tarhunt name appears in Hittite&Assyrian records,1400-612 BC. [Turkey]
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πŸ‘€︎ u/universal_native
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The Ethnicity of the Sea Peoples - Dr. Woudhuizen, independent scholar who studies ancient Indo-European languages, hieroglyphic Luvian/Luwian, and Mediterranean protohistory (2019) youtube.com/watch?v=e9cvx…
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The Luwians: A lost civilization comes back to life youtu.be/1DNyA90f_aw
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πŸ‘€︎ u/JuicyLittleGOOF
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An interdisciplinary team of Swiss and Dutch archaeologists announced the rediscovery of a 29-meter-long Luwian hieroglyphic inscription that describes the events at the end of the Bronze Age in the Eastern Mediterranean. phys.org/news/2017-10-luw…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/God_Wills_It_
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Luwian hieroglyphic inscription explains the end of the Bronze Age - One of the greatest puzzles of Mediterranean archeology can thus be plausibly solved. phys.org/news/2017-10-luw…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/anutensil
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How could the newly translated inscription about the sea-people be fake if mellaart could not read luwian?

Historically, what methods would have existed in his time to create a forgery in a language nobody on earth understood at that time?

Also why is this more likely than it simply being legit?

Why does the thread on /r/history overwhelmingly support the forgery theory despite every single article on the matter saying it would have been impossible to fake?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/KryptonianCrawdad
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Varpalava(king of Tuyana)'s praying in front of Tarhunt,late Hittite,8.cen. BC,İvriz/Konya Ereğlisi,İstanbul Archaeological Museums. Weather god called as Tarhunt by Luwians who were extinct native people of Anatolia,Tarhunt name appears in Hittite&Assyrian records,1400-612 BC. [OC]
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A 3,200-year-old stone slab with an inscription that tells of a Trojan prince and may refer to the mysterious Sea People has been deciphered. The inscription is written in an ancient language called Luwian that just a few scholars, no more than 20 by some estimates, can read today. livescience.com/60629-anc…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/God_Wills_It_
πŸ“…︎ Nov 02 2017
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Varpalava(king of Tuyana)'s praying in front of Tarhunt,late Hittite,8.cen. BC,İvriz/Konya Ereğlisi,İstanbul Archaeological Museums. Weather god called as Tarhunt by Luwians who were extinct native people of Anatolia,Tarhunt name appears in Hittite&Assyrian records,1400-612 BC.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/tismuma
πŸ“…︎ Oct 14 2018
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Geoarchaeologist Proposes There Was a "World War Zero" - Could an alliance among the "Luwians" have helped caused the collapse of eastern Mediterranean civilizations 3,200 years ago? smithsonianmag.com/smart-…
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Luwian Hieroglyphs found in barn in Cappadocia dailysabah.com/history/20…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/E_G_Never
πŸ“…︎ May 25 2019
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Inspection of archaeologist Mellaart's apartment provides evidence he faked Γ‡atalhΓΆyΓΌk murals and the recently published hieroglyphic Luwian text mentioning Troy and the Sea Peoples livescience.com/61989-fam…
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Where's the best University to learn Luwian Hieroglyphs and the Luwian Language?

Ever since reading about Eberhard Zangger and his AMAZING theories, I've been totally hooked as far as Anatolia being my main specialty. I've heard the University of Chicago has an EXCELLENT looking program, but it seems to place emphasis on Hittite. Any programs, or series of classes I can take when I make it to the Graduate school level that would give me a good knowledge of the Luwian script and language?

I'm thinking of becoming one of the thirty-or-so people in the world that can read Luwian hieroglyphs! XD

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πŸ‘€︎ u/ScaphicLove
πŸ“…︎ Aug 13 2018
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Lukka Lands trying to overthrow the Hittites be like (Ultra-rare Luwians-as-Sea-Peoples Meme!) imgflip.com/i/2gbph7#41Mr…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ScaphicLove
πŸ“…︎ Aug 22 2018
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Archaeologists decipher 3,200-year-old stone telling of invasion of mysterious sea people | Only a handful of scholars worldwide, can read its ancient Luwian language independent.co.uk/news/wo…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/positivesource
πŸ“…︎ Oct 12 2017
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Luwian–Aramaic princedoms ca. 600 B.C. [1309x953]
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πŸ‘€︎ u/tenaciousTyrant
πŸ“…︎ Oct 10 2014
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Archaeologists decipher 3,200-year-old stone telling of invasion of mysterious sea people | The 29-metre limestone frieze, found in 1878 bears the longest known hieroglyphic inscription from the Bronze Age. Only a handful of scholars worldwide, can read its ancient Luwian language. reddit.com/r/worldnews/co…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/rotoreuters
πŸ“…︎ Oct 11 2017
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One archaeologist believes that digging west of the ancient city Troy may result in the discovery of traces of the long-forgotten Luwian civilization dailysabah.com/history/20…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/nt337
πŸ“…︎ Jun 03 2015
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How could the newly translated inscription about the sea-people be fake if Mellaart could not read Luwian?

1: Historically, what methods would have existed in his time to create a forgery in a language nobody on earth understood at that time?

2: Also why is this more likely than it simply being legit?

Bonus: Why does the thread on /r/history overwhelmingly support the forgery theory despite every single article on the matter saying it would have been impossible to fake? Should I avoid this subbreddit if I want accurate history in the future?

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