According to ironborn legend, Nagga was the first sea dragon, able to feed on krakens and leviathans and drown islands when angry. The Grey King, helped by the Drowned God, managed to slay her on the shores of the island Old Wyk and built there his hall out of her bones. Her jaws became his throne and her teeth made his crown. He warmed his hall with her living fire. However, when the Grey King died, the Storm God drowned out her fire and the sea took the throne. Only her bones that made the pillars and beams remain.
The thing, if she was a sea dragon, why fire? We have been said that ice dragons spit ice, the dragons we know are connected with fire and they spit fire, so why Nagga had fire? And how was she drowning islands if she had fire? This is where I first thought of Grey ghost.
Grey Ghost was a wild dragon that dwelt in a smoking vent high on the desolate eastern side of the volcano called Dragonmont. He was a pale grey-white, the color of morning mist. He was a notably shy dragon who avoided men and their works for years at a time. He preferred to feed on fish and was often glimpsed flying low over the narrow sea, snatching prey from the waters. If they hadn't see a dragon before, but knew stories about them, when they saw Naggs were like: "Oh, a sea dragon!".
We already know that Hightowers and other figures from the Reach had slayed dragons so in this part of Westeros at this point of the timeline for sure we had dragons. The second question came after though, why there? Nagga, maybe, like Grey ghost was shy and didn't like people and up to this point iron islands didn't have humans or other creatures, but we know there were other dragons in this part of the world, why? Wild dragons, tend to go in volcanoes. Canibal, Sheepstealer and Grey Ghost was in Dragonstone, in fourteen flames again there were dragons even before Valyrians. Other stories say about Asshai and islands on the jade sea and again it makes sense, Marahai is an island there and it has two volcanoes, so why there are so many Legends about dragons in Western Westeros? The dragons killed in Tarth and in Craclaw it's logical, Dragonstone is really close and the dragons were flying there too. We know that Nagga, most likely, was visible from sea dragon's point, thus she was flying over the sea and areas around, so we don't need many places for them to stay, we need one that is easy for them to fly either North (since she was visible there when she was flying over the sea and eating
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Also as a bonus thought, in the Bronze Age, very few people had access to tin to make bronze, as it was much more scarce than copper. Making those with tin mines exceedingly rich. So was there a time the iron islands (or whatever they were called back then) were crazy rich merchants? Maybe there was a huge flip in their philosophy when they became raiders and thatβs why they have such disdain for buying things. Just a fun lil bonus theory
I need suggestions for what to do with certain Lord Paramountcy titles after the war.
Iβm gonna let the Martels keep Dorne but revoke the title of Prince.
Iβm of course gonna let the Tyrells keep the Reach.
Iβm gonna give the Stormlands to Shireen.
Iβm gonna let the Arryns keep the Vale but execute Littlefinger.
Iβm gonna let the Tullys keep the Trident.
Iβm gonna let the Starks keep the North and the title of King.
So who should I give the Westerlands and Iron Islands to?
Of all the regions of Westeros only these three kingdoms have been spared from the fights and devastations brought by war so far in the present story, with no battle of the War of the Five Kings or any civil war having taken place in their lands so far, the Vale and Dorne because of Lysa Arryn and Doran Martell having kept their armies inside their borders, while no enemy fleet has come into conflict with the Iron Fleet yet, and that there is no invasion fleet ready to land an army on the Iron Islands for now.
But for how long can these kingdoms be spared from suffering bloodshed and destruction ? Will this continue or will war eventually come to them during TWOW or ADOS ?
If the latter then who will come to try to invade these kingdoms ? How much destruction and many casualties the Iron Islands, the Vale and Dorne suffer in case of war coming to them ?
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Theon can still rule the isles if all these things happen.
A little info going into this :Theon latecomer is the theory that theon will return to the iron isles and force another kings moot because a kings moot is unlawful unless all candidates are present which he wasnβt.
1. Theon has to survive or break a deal with Stannis Stannis is theons best chance at getting back to the isles as Stannis gives him a way to get there and a ally off shores in return Theon can provide Stannis with control of the isles and ultimately reunification into the 7 kingdoms
2.He needs to get Asha to back his claim (we already know sheβs willing to let a male sit the throne and rule threw them Theon is the perfect puppet leader for her ) The biggest problem in Theon winning his kings moot is the iron born donβt like him , the biggest problem in asha winning hers was sheβs not a male, if Theon can get asha to back his claim this covers for the iron born dislike of him and covers ashas female problem
3. Euron has to die obviously Team Theon/Asha doesnβt have to do much here the chances something kill him before the end of the series are high
4. Theon needs to find the captains daughter from ACOCK When going to the iron isles Theon has relations with a captains daughter , Theon tells her that he bedded her so often sheβs likely pregnant and that her father should be pleased to raise a kings bastard, this means Theon has a heir which covers his infertility problem.
5. The pyke bastard needs to be legitimized Thereβs already precedent for pyke bastards succesing lords on the iron isles , Dalton the red kraken was succeeded by Toron pyke(Greyjoy)
And is there anything saying that a weirwood needs to be intact to function as one?
What was Ygg, if not a weirwood?
The Grey King also taught men to weave nets and sails and carved the first longship from the hard pale wood of Ygg, a demon tree who fed on human flesh
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If someone is willing to help, Iβd greatly appreciate it. Let me know and I will share my DoDo code. Many thanks.
All in like new condition.
EDIT: I forgot to add I'm also looking for Veilwrath + expansion.
Of the great houses that have once ruled over Westeros I always had a special interest for house Hoare of Okmont that ruled the Ironborn between the arrival of the Andals and Aegon's conquest. Already one of the most powerful and prestigious families amongst the Ironborn, with the Ironborn empire having been at its peak under Qhored I Hoare during the Age of Heroes, the Hoares truly showed a sense of pragmatism, progressism and cleverness after the arrival of the Andals with them marrying with the Andals, adopting the Faith of the Seven and getting the Andals' support to win the Seastone Chair and become the new kings of the Iron Islands after the end of house Greyiron.
During their reign the Hoares, who had obviously realized the obsolecence of the Old Way, encouraged the spreading of the Faith over the Iron Islands and protected it from Drowned Men and traditionalist Ironborn, fought reaving and thralldom, built strong ties with the mainland (especially the Westerlands and the Reach) as well as the Free Cities and strongly developped trade with them which greatly enriched and empowered the Iron Islands, with the Ironborn using their boldness at sea to take quicker and riskier ways to sail and transport merchandises, as well as them maintaining their fighting skills and power by being paid as corsairs or mercenaries by the Free Cities against each other in their countless trade wars, proving that the Ironborn didn't need the Old Way and reaving to make a living. The Ironborn
This New Way and the Hoares belief in and protection of the Seven of course enraged the Drowned Men, who deemed them as heretics with black blood and black hearts and constantly opposed them, with the Hoares violently fighting and often repressing them. The most infamous and violent case of this was the drowned priest called the Shrike who led the Ironborn into revolting and overthrowing Harmund III for having outlawed reaving and the taking of salt wives and trying to do the same to thralldom, with poor Harmund being mutilated of his nose, eyes and tongues and thrown in a cell alongside his Lannister mother with the complicity of his brother Hagon the Heartless, until his Lannister relatives came and crushed the rebels though did give him the mercy of death as the ordeal has driven him insane.
The best Hoare king was possibly Qhorwyn the cunning who developped trade the best, greatly expanded his family's wealth and avoided wars as he knew that they were bad for trade, though he d
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What internal and external policy measures and reforms would she make ? How much of a reformist would she be ?
Whose rulers would she likely take as models or examples to guide herself ? Could she, ironically, be influenced by the northmen and the Starks in her ruling and political style following her journey in the North following her capture by Stannis ?
According to ironborn legend, Nagga was the first sea dragon, able to feed on krakens and leviathans and drown islands when angry. The Grey King, helped by the Drowned God, managed to slay her on the shores of the island Old Wyk and built there his hall out of her bones. Her jaws became his throne and her teeth made his crown. He warmed his hall with her living fire. However, when the Grey King died, the Storm God drowned out her fire and the sea took the throne. Only her bones that made the pillars and beams remain.
The thing, if she was a sea dragon, why fire? We have been said that ice dragons spit ice, the dragons we know are connected with fire and they spit fire, so why Nagga had fire? And how was she drowning islands if she had fire? This is where I first thought of Grey ghost.
Grey Ghost was a wild dragon that dwelt in a smoking vent high on the desolate eastern side of the volcano called Dragonmont. He was a pale grey-white, the color of morning mist. He was a notably shy dragon who avoided men and their works for years at a time. He preferred to feed on fish and was often glimpsed flying low over the narrow sea, snatching prey from the waters. If they hadn't see a dragon before, but knew stories about them, when they saw Naggs were like: "Oh, a sea dragon!".
We already know that Hightowers and other figures from the Reach had slayed dragons so in this part of Westeros at this point of the timeline for sure we had dragons. The second question came after though, why there? Nagga, maybe, like Grey ghost was shy and didn't like people and up to this point iron islands didn't have humans or other creatures, but we know there were other dragons in this part of the world, why? Wild dragons, tend to go in volcanoes. Canibal, Sheepstealer and Grey Ghost was in Dragonstone, in fourteen flames again there were dragons even before Valyrians. Other stories say about Asshai and islands on the jade sea and again it makes sense, Marahai is an island there and it has two volcanoes, so why there are so many Legends about dragons in Western Westeros? The dragons killed in Tarth and in Craclaw it's logical, Dragonstone is really close and the dragons were flying there too. We know that Nagga, most likely, was visible from sea dragon's point, thus she was flying over the sea and areas around, so we don't need many places for them to stay, we need one that is easy for them to fly either North (since she was visible there when she was flying over the sea and eating)
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