Domenico Starnone Puns

I've read the BOM a couple dozen times over the years. One of the early, non-spiritual evidences to me of the BOM was the presence of very distinct authorial voices in the text. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Many studies have been done on the topic.

But as I have read the various studies over the years, and have watched the critical position evolve, I've begun to get the sense of a consensus emerging among non-believers and believers alike. Namely, that, yes, there are at least three (and possibly more) distinct linguistic voices in the BOM.

For believers, this is textual evidence that supports Joseph's claims about the BOM. For non-believers, this pricks a desire for a natural explanation.

Givens published about this in the Oxford Press (sorry you have buy the book). But here's an interesting summary, offering a non-believing explanation (contrary to the historical record, but non-believing nonetheless)

https://www.churchistrue.com/blog/book-of-mormon-wordprint-studies-2/

I'm curious. Take a gander; the blog link is very interesting and an easy read.

Do you agree that the BOM contains multiple, distinct voices requiring a natural explanation? Or not?

PS: This wouldn't be the first time a similar sort of concession was made. Dan Vogel seems to have conceded that Joseph had a set of plates and has offered fabricated tin plates as a natural explanation; Fawn Brodie speculated that JS had an instinctive ability to hypnotize people like Mary Whitmer (who saw Moroni and the plates) and the BoM witnesses, as a way offering a natural explanation for their testimonies.

PSS: I've flaired this as scholarship, but I don't vouch for the scholarship of the blog author in this area. I get the sense that he's an epistemic trespasser in this area (but it doesn't seem like rocket science either). But the link provides a lot of good information and source materials. Givens in his book simply reports on the studies and doesn't claim to be an expert in the area. And I certainly don't claim any expertise myself other than what I offer in the first two sentences of this post.

EDIT--More background on Stylometry:

To the late comer, reading the comments to this thread, you might think wordprint studies were akin to alchemy or voodoo, invented by "apologists" at BYU for the purpose of proving the BOM.

Any consumer of this sub should understand that the loudes

Marcel Proust, The Mysterious Correspondent: New Stories.  Not the very best Proust, but even so-so Proust is pretty superb.  These are fragments to be welcomed.

Andy Weir, Project Hail Mary.  At least as good as The Martian, and arguably more conceptual.

Judith Schlansky, Verzeichnis einiger Verluste [Inventory of Losses].  Conceptual German novel with roots in Borges, not as good in English.

Patrick McGrath, Last Days in Cleaver Square.  Unreliable narrator!

Karl Knausgaard, The Morning Star.  The master returns with a full-scale novel, with theology ga

È stretto e scomodo il mondo che circonda Barbie, giovane parrucchiera di provincia che non vuole più stare dove è cresciuta e dove il confronto con una madre infelice è respingente quanto l’odio che comincia a provare. Padania Blues di Nadia Busato, edizioni Sem, è un romanzo sui legami che anche quando si spezzano, continuano a chiamare, attrarre, soprattutto per il male che fanno. E l’amore di coppia, in questo romanzo, è un gioco di forza fra due parti di cui una, quando perde, perde pesantemente.

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Ric e Gian, datori di lavoro di Barbie, condividono il salone di bellezza e la casa finchè anni di vita insieme finiscono incendiati dalla rabbia, da una violenza verbale irreversibile. Ric, per il quale “se si ama, si ama al futuro” costruendo, edificando qualcosa di solido, mettendoci protezione e impegno, giorno dopo giorno, ha la “sindrome della carmelitana (…) ama solo la persona che lo tiene lontano e lo rifiuta. Il suo amore è composto da molto conforto dato in cambio di lunghi silenzi carichi di disprezzo”. Gian è un giovane inquieto che ha bisogno della fuga ed è deciso a scartare tutto senza appello.

Attorno a Barbie, che vorrebbe tentare la via del successo televisivo cedendo a facili promesse, un’altra storia va in pezzi, sebbene coperta dall’ipocrisia delle convenzioni sociali di un piccolo paese: il matrimonio dei suoi genitori è, di fatto, un legame che non esiste più. Dopo il tradimento e l’abbandono, dopo l’umiliazione e la vergogna, Teresa, la madre di Barbie, accoglie di nuovo il marito Fausto, come se da certi vincoli non fosse possibile sciogliersi. Nadia Busato costruisce un romanzo in cui, come quei lacci tenaci di cui aveva parlato Domenico Starnone nel suo romanzo divenuto anche un film, ci sono fili che si allungano fino a non vedere più cosa c’è dall’altro capo e poi ritornano cortissimi, stringenti e definitivi. Teresa è quella immobile, Fausto quello che abbandona e rientra. Barbie ha di fronte questo modello di donna e di uomo a cui non vuole assomigliare. Andarsene dalla provincia è l’unico modo per sfidare il futuro e pretendere qualcosa di diverso, migliore, libero.

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I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

Do your worst!

How the hell am I suppose to know when it’s raining in Sweden?

Ants don’t even have the concept fathers, let alone a good dad joke. Keep r/ants out of my r/dadjokes.

But no, seriously. I understand rule 7 is great to have intelligent discussion, but sometimes it feels like 1 in 10 posts here is someone getting upset about the jokes on this sub. Let the mods deal with it, they regulate the sub.

They were cooked in Greece.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

Now that I listen to albums, I hardly ever leave the house.

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

It really does, I swear!

And now I’m cannelloni

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

But that’s comparing apples to oranges

And boy are my arms legs.

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

They’re on standbi

BamBOO!

A play on words.