Conall Cernach and Cernunnos : Real connections or wishful thinking?

In another thread I brought up Anne Ross' theory that Conall Cernach and Cernunnos may be related figures, and it caused a bit of a stir. I said I was going to bring the discussion to another thread so it could be debated. I have not had the opportunity yet to read her theory directly, but I have read about it from secondary sources and the following represents the evidence I know of that supports it :

> Exhibit A : A match in legend and imagery

In FrΓ‘ech's Cattle Raid, FrΓ‘ech and Conall Cernach dispatch from Ireland to recover FrΓ‘ech's stolen cattle. They bring with them 27 men, a hawk, and a hound, and then travel south across the English Channel, and further south into the Alps.

A shepherdess warns them of a serpent guarding the dun where the cattle have been taken. She also grabs Conall by the neck and fervently recalls a prophecy that a man would come to destroy the dun. She then essentially conspires with the group to let them in when the men are sleeping rather than milk the cows as is her duty. The story then goes:

> They attack the Liss; the serpent darts into the girdle of Conall Cernach, and they plunder the dun at once. They save off then the woman and the three sons, and they carry away whatever was the best of the gems of the dun, and Conall lets the serpent out of his girdle, and neither of them did harm to the other.

This theme of a serpent guarding cows is not unique to Ireland, but is also found in Vedic legend where Indra must vanquish the serpent Vrtra to release not only cows, but water and light. This comparison combined with the shepherdess' mention of a prophecy, suggests ancient origins and gives the story a sense of mythic significance.

Our most compelling and famous depiction of Cernunnos comes from The Gundestrup Cauldron, which depicts Cernunnos as triumphantly wielding a torc (which we know to be representative of treasure or wealth, by comparing Romano-Celtic depictions of him that feature bags of gold in its place) and a horned serpent. He is also accompanied by a hound to his right and a bull and stag to his left.

It is rare that we se

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Post Pull Depression - Tidus is so dreamy!

Hello and welcome to Post Pull Depression, the only thread that won’t make a HA HA HA HA joke… well probably not.

Ok, as is tradition now, let’s go look at the previous FFX PPDs.

OG Tidus Banner

Yuna + Lulu

Jecht + Auron

Good god there’s a lot of them. What game do they think this is FFT0? Anyways, some out of context highlights.

>Oh dear Yevon! It’s Water Lavos!!! Out of the water, EVERYONE OUT OF THE WATER!!!!

Still my best photoshop job.

>but it’s still Tidus. Why is he so good and yet the greatest FF protagonist of all time, Vaan, is shitty. There is no justice in the world.

And now Vaan is meta again. I take full credit for this!

>I’m going to assume astraphobia is the fear of thunder and not the fear of the dog from the Jetsons.

Or maybe astraphobia is the fear of having your signs stolen! Ha! Topical baseball joke!

Anyways, let’s just look at the new shit shall we?

#IsaaruIsaar...who?

Barrel: Bottom of

Wow, we are really cutting deep into FFX characters. I thought Belgimine was a minor enough character but I believe Isaaru is even less important. Still though, better than having actual prominent FF8 characters.

Why stop here though? Let’s add:

Donna
Lord Braska
An actual Blitzball
Chappu
Seymour’s Butt

TMR: ESPER ORBS FOR ALL

>Bonds with the Aeons - EVO Mag +20%, Esper Gauge fill 1-2

Combine this with a few Summer Parasols and you can get some serious esper orbs each turn. It’s probably not impossible to get a full gauge each turn with some smart slotting here and there on support units.

##Depression: FAMILY

Ok, I remember this guy now. He was the idiot traveling around with his little brothers. I can buy a lot of unrealistic shit being a fantasy game and all that, but getting along with your siblings especially on a road trip is just too much. Completely immersion breaking imo.

#KimahriMirage Spam Bot

Horn: Broken

Look at this Ronso with a broken horn! I bet his penis is broken too! Kimahri is also noticeably smaller than other Ronso. I bet his penis is smaller too! Look at the way he [holds a spear.](https://www.ffbegif.com/Kimahri/210000505%20Sta

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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Pun intended.
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The Headsmen of Chaldea (King Hassan, Charles-Henri Sanson, Salome, Hessian Lobo, etc.) and their unilaterally Evil alignment

Just now noticed that we haven't had one reputed decapitator with a "Neutral" or "Good" alignment. Is there some lore evidence that a heroic spirit who cut off too many heads in life (good cause or not) gets put into the "penalty box of evil" or something.

Cause now, I'm wondering if Conall Cernach from Ulster Cycle - should he become a summonable Servant - will have "Evil" slapped on him despite his camaraderie with none other than Cu Chulainn. Now, granted, he was kind of a dick, but the same could be said of a ton of other warriors of the great Cycles, Cu included. All-in-all it'll be interesting to see if the streak continues with new additions to the Servant roster.

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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

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I'd like to dedicate this joke to my wisdom teeth.

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Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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All dad jokes are bad and here’s why

Why

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If Korean pop is shortened to Kpop and Korean Drama is Kdrama...

What, then, is Chinese rap?

Edit:

Notable mentions from the comments:

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  • Country/Canadian rap

  • Chinese/Country/Canadian rock

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Is this sub still active?

There hasn't been a single post this year!

(Happy 2022 from New Zealand)

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