TIL the Mark 12 5"/38 caliber gun mounted on battleships and cruisers comprised the main anti-air defense of American WW2 ships. The guns with the Mark 37 Gun Fire Control System consumed 1000 rounds per aircraft kill.
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Ship gun fire-control system: are we sure that the current implementation is correct?
It just started bugging me why some destroyer from the 1920's and an other from the 1940's has the same targeting and aiming regimes in the game. What I mean is that for example the Frunze has sort of the same abilities when it comes to long range fire in comparison with a Fletcher.
I started looking around as I have really zero idea how fire-control worked in reality and fast read through the wikipedia article about the topic, and I came to the conclusion that there should be some key differences when aiming. The Fletcher is equipped with GFCS while the Frunze isn't, still they gunnery follow the same acquire target, dial the range and care for the parallax.
It just feels like our Russian ship is performing better than it should be, or the situation reversed the ships with more modern systems are not reflected enough in game. (Radar, director, range keeper, etc.)
I imagined that this could be corrected, and this will probably seem like cheating, with an "X" along the line an enemy ship is moving. If WOWS players are familier with, this is what the earlier "AIM Assist" looked like.
In all fairness, it feels like that when engaging ship vs. ship we expand a lot of energy finding the perfect range and parallax, while many of these on most modern ships would be available for use "immediately". I would love to see GFCS simulated in game if it is possible in any way, each nation having their own flavour.
TL;DR: GFCS are not reflected in enough detail in Naval battles currently to my own understanding, how could we improve or translate any of the real system in game as a user-friendly solution?
Is a tank's coaxial machine gun used mostly for infantry suppression or main gun alignment with tracers? Has this changed with improved fire-control systems?
How did fire control systems like the Soviet 130mm B-13 Naval Gun work?
I'm just asking. If you're a naval enthusiast, how did the FCS of the B-13 work?
P.S if you play WoT, please explain how such an FCS would work in a tank destroyer like the SU-100Y.
We heard that our game was boring. So, instead of our old auto-target system, we added an aiming system that lets you direct and fire your ship's guns at enemies to give players more agency. What do you think of this new mechanic? How could we improve it? [Playable demo + details in comments]
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[5348 x 6048]Prinz Eugen looking aft from the forecastle, showing 8" guns, bridge and main battery fire controls. Taken while ship was in a floating drydock, probably at Bremen, soon after V-E Day, May 1945
Indian MoD approves procurement of an unspecified number of Lynx U2 fire control systems for frontline warships from Bharat Electronics Limited. The Lync provides air defence with long, medium & short range gun mounts.
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Issued Gear, circa 1980. 4 x .50 cal machine guns. ASG-15 Fire Control System, B-52G. 😎👍
The Naval arms race prior to WWI led to rapid advances in naval guns and fire control, but to what extent did the ship designers anticipate such developments and how did they design around them?
In 1874 the Russian Navy launched the circular battle ship Novgorod. It was thought it would be revolutionary providing stronger armour and better turning and firing... it turned too well and would sometimes spin out of control when caught in currents or from firing it's guns
In 1874 the Imperial Russian Navy launched the circular battle ship Novgorod. It was thought it would be revolutionary providing stronger armour and better turning and firing... it turned too well and would sometimes spin out of control when caught in currents or from firing it's guns
In 1874 the Russian Navy launched the circular battle ship Novgorod. It was thought it would be revolutionary providing stronger armour and better turning and firing... it turned too well and would sometimes spin out of control when caught in currents or from firing it's guns
In 1874 the Imperial Russian Navy launched the circular battle ship Novgorod. It was thought it would be revolutionary providing stronger armour and better turning and firing... it turned too well and would sometimes spin out of control when caught in currents or from firing it's guns [1260x691]
The T-54M is a Vietnamese modernization of the T-54 that include: second-generation ERA blocks on front hull and turret, a new fire control system, laser rangefinder system, thermal imaging camera, and a thermal sleeve for the 100mm main gun
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In 1874 the Russian Navy launched the circular battle ship Novgorod. It was thought it would be revolutionary providing stronger armour and better turning and firing... it turned too well and would sometimes spin out of control when caught in currents or from firing it's guns
Heavily upgraded M3 Stuart tank, created after Brazil needed superior tanks but was unwilling to waste the large amounts of WW2 surplus they still operated. Armed with a 90mm gun and heavily modernized with a new engine, fire control system, armor scheme, suspension, radio, etc.
The AHUS Thot Slayer, a modified Bonker-class battleship, will be joining the BONK fleet soon. The AHUS Thot Slayer differs from its sister ship in the fact that it will be armed with brand-new bonknium missiles and a new state-of-the-art fire-control system.
The Grosskampfwagen/K-Wagen. Germany’s MASSIVE WWI tank weighing 120 tons (originally 165!) It has a 28 man crew, a fire control system of a destroyer, and so many guns the crew had an artillery commander. It’s the literal Landship. 2 prototypes were nearly finished by armistice.
Heavily upgraded M3 Stuart tank, created after Brazil needed superior tanks but was unwilling to waste the large amounts of WW2 surplus they still operated. Armed with a 90mm gun and heavily modernized with a new engine, fire control system, armor scheme, suspension, radio, etc.
A vietnamese t-54M firing it main gun during a testing trial , the t-54M is a vietnamese modernize version of the t-54 with add on armour on the hull and turret, laser range finder, morden fire control system, thermal imaging system, new round and a new engine
A USN LSM(R) -Landing Ship Medium (Rocket)- fires a rocket salvo on a beach target in the Pacific. In addition also had a single Mark 12 5"/38 (127 mm) gun turret.Not to confuse with the similar Bristis vessels known as Landing Craft Tank (Rocket) or LCT(R) popular in D-Day images. (1550x1246)
Leclerc MARS. It is a towing tank, designed from Leclerc tanks with manufacturing defects. It has been transformed into a recovery tank; the gun, the optics and the fire control systems have been removed [800 x 563]
Gunner’s Primary Sight and Fire Control System including TC’s extention and override grip from M1 abrams. Probably early variant with 105mm gun.
TIE Adv' Weapon / Engine System TIP - Transferring your TIEs system power is like switching shields from front to back in Rep' Ships- combine that with the secondary engine and weapon system (dpad system controls) is what makes the Empire Ships more deadly - Unlimited Boost and OC Laser Fire
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[5348 x 6048]Prinz Eugen looking aft from the forecastle, showing 8" guns, bridge and main battery fire controls. Taken while ship was in a floating drydock, probably at Bremen, soon after V-E Day.
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USS Trippe (DE-1075) underway off Newport, RI, 22 Dec 1971. Visible are the Basic Point Defense Missile System (BPDMS) launcher on her fantail and the related fire control director atop her helo hangar. She was the first destroyer-type ship to be fitted with the system. USN photo. [3875 × 5705]
[5348 x 6048] Prinz Eugen looking aft from the forecastle, showing 8" guns, bridge and main battery fire controls. Taken while ship was in a floating drydock, probably at Bremen, soon after V-E Day
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Jordanian M60 Phoenix MBT: An Upgraded M60A3; Armed with a 120mm L/50 Stabilized Gun + Raytheon's Digital Fire Control System. Up-Armored with Lvl III/IV Upgrades+ERA, Laser Warning Reciever, Automatic Fire Supression, and a 950HP Engine.
[r/ItHadToBeBrazil] Heavily upgraded M3 Stuart tank, created after Brazil needed superior tanks but was unwilling to waste the large amounts of WW2 surplus they still operated. Armed with a 90mm gun and heavily modernized with a new engine, fire control system, armor scheme, suspension, ra...
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3M47 Gibka, an attempt to improve the “dudes with Iglas” ultra-short-range SAM system with infrared vision and centralized fire control; small enough for riverine craft (e.g. this Gepard cruise missile boat), crowsnests of capital ships (e.g. Vice Admiral Kulakov), or even Tigr jeeps [925x628]
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Commissioned in 1890, USS Vesuvius was the first and only U.S. ship outfitted with dynamite guns. Vesuvius’ three pneumatic guns could fire 550-lb high explosive shells at targets a mile away and were used during the Spanish-American War in 1898 to bombard enemy emplacements in Cuba. [3465x1824]
Is it worth it to upgrade the Gun Fire Control System module?
Almost every ship has a better Gun Fire Control System module to be upgraded, but it's never required to get to the next ship. Is there ever a case where a 10% increase in range is worth it or should you just skip it?
I've been skipping it almost always in ships below T8.
USS Iowa (BB-61) Commissioning ceremonies at the New York Navy Yard, 22 Feb 1943. Note: Mark 38 main battery director with Mark 8 fire control radar on top, 16/50 triple gun turret, freshly raised National Ensign, & incomplete condition of some features of the ship's aft superstructure. [5735x4545]
Okay, so I'm happy (mostly) this ship isn't for sale right now. As, I have little self control - but is it normal for all the stations to fire at you when you try to gas up a Glaive?
I present to you: The ''Exterminator class Waffenträger'' with a planet destroying gun. This 11km ship has one purpose, carry the gun and keep it together when it fires. The 2 side parts hold the reactors and hangers for not only fighter crafts but mainly industrial equipment.
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A USN LSM(R) -Landing Ship Medium (Rocket)- fires a rocket salvo on a beach target in the Pacific. In addition also had a single Mark 12 5"/38 (127 mm) gun turret.Not to confuse with the similar Bristis vessels known as Landing Craft Tank (Rocket) or LCT(R) popular in D-Day images.
Finally managed to Combine a Starscream System Freighter Seed I found online with a system colour seed of my existing ship. To give me the Black Control tower, and have any colour trim or body combo.
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It's time to use stock Gun Fire Control system on USN DDs after the stealth fire nerf.
Since the detecting range after firing is the max gun range. So gun range module upgrade is actually a downgrade now for USN DDs. You wouldn't hit anything that far anyway. And you don't need that range for DD fighting.
Thank you, Wargaming.
*EDIT quote from below
> You are playing a ship trying to finish a low hp DD in 6km of you. After you fire, you kill him. Let's say before the nerf your detecting range after firing is 10km. After nerf it is increased to 12km because you max fire range is 12km. By using stock module lets say it is 10.5km.
So I killed the DD. I can go dark if nobody is in 10.5km. If I use the 12km module, if some other ship is between 10.5 and 12km, I can't go dark immediately.
So, Apparently Gun Fire Control system mod 2. Is really good upgrade.
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3M47 Gibka, an attempt to improve the “dudes with Iglas” ultra-short-range SAM system with infrared vision and centralized fire control; small enough for riverine craft (e.g. this Gepard cruise missile boat), crowsnests of capital ships (e.g. Vice Admiral Kulakov), or even Tigr jeeps
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"At 22:10 hrs Captain Brindel was informed the Iraqi aircraft had targeted his ship, locking his fire-control radar onto Stark." I thought being aware that an enemy is locking on to/targeting you was a thing of science fiction and video games. How does this work for ships, planes and tanks?
Source for the former claim:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_incident
Please try to explain it in not too technical terms, as I am dumb.
Main Battery Modification 3 or Gun Fire Control System 2 (Roon)
I'm currently unsure which 6. upgrade is better on the Roon.
I've seen a lot of recommandations for MBM3 but I think the 20.6 km range with GFCS2 is also really useful.
What speaks for and against these upgrades?
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