It seems that popular portrayal (at least I think it is) of the invasion casts the Japanese as having superior musket technology due to European trade while the Koreans had much better artillery (eg the hwacha and the turtle ship). Were their militaries really that different technology wise despite Japan and Korea being so close to each other?
If that really was the case then how would a battle play out? Did the style of conventional battles change over the course of the 2 invasions? Did both sides ever try to adopt each others technology? Thanks in advance!
Even just a conquest of Korea was a large task (one that the Japanese did not manage to accomplish). Did Hideyoshi really believe that he would have been able to conquer the whole Ming Empire?
I have been kicking this idea around in my head for the last week or so and feel like it's worth sharing. Asia has been avoided like the plague by Ubi, and I hold no delusions that they would ever pick this time and place, but I still think it deserves attention. The following are my thoughts and ideas for how to cover an Asian Assassin's Creed that fills in some gaps in the lore while simultaneously bringing together three distinct and unique Asian cultures (Ming China, Joseon Korea, and Azuchi-Momoyama Japan) in one place at one time. Hopefully, this idea appeals to some of you, because I'm under no illusions that it will appeal to Ubi.
Note: what I didn't take from AC lore or real history, I tried to make clear in other ways.
First, if you aren't already aware, there is already some lore surrounding the end of the Sengoku-jidai. I recommend reading these wiki articles to familiarize yourself with the lore up until this point.
- Japanese Brotherhood
- Japanese Rite
- We also know of the existence of a Korean Brotherhood which exists in the modern-day.
From the information above, we know that most of the Japanese Assassins could not have been in Korea during the Japanese Invasions of Korea (1592-1598) due to various circumstances. But, we do know that a Korean Brotherhood exists today and presumably existed in the past. Thus, I think this game should tell the story of the creation of the Korean Brotherhood.
This is how I envision it...
Late 16th century Joseon Korea was a Neo Confucian state with strong ties to Ming China. It was a land unaccustomed to rapid changes and remained relatively untouched by anyone but Japan, China, and the Jurchens since Shao Jun defeated the 8 Tigers some 30+ years before. Filled with rampant corruption and negligence, the ruling class of Joseon Korea was weak and indecisive. Trusting in tradition, they still held onto the Templar-driven ideals of the 8 Tigers, without being Templars themselves.
On the other hand, Japan had just recently unified under Toyotomi Hedyoshi, whose first wife, KΕdai-in, was the f
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%931598)
At the end of the Sengoku period of Japanese history, the new Tokugawa Shogunate launched invasions of Korea with the intent of conquering it and China, obviously administering a land as vast as China at this time period is laughably unrealistic for feudal Japan, but what would Korea look like in the 20th and 21st centuries had they been under constant Japanese rule for some 500 years before that? Would the allies of WW2 have perhaps seen Korea as a more integral part of Japan and not forced them to give it up? What would be the political ramifications for China if a hostile Japan had secured a fortified land border with them?
Samurais are generally glorified in popular culture, but I would like to know how effective they actually were vs foreign foes. In this case it would be vs Korea and China
I'm guessing Samurais dominated in close quarter combat, (although the lack of shields would be a major problem)
Samurais would definitely have high courage
China would have superior cavalry, though it would be quite useless in the mountains in Korea
China and Korea would also have superior projectile weapons (Recurve crossbows and Rocket Launchers)
Any accounts of fighting skills during this conflict?
Or did the japanese forces kill most of them?
After the chinese ming helped the koreans, they then retreated and koreans were left for themselves, and the japanese were stationed in the southeast area of Korean peninsula.
Towards the end of imjin wars, they weren't discriminating between groups and were straight up killing every korean on their path. So I'm just wondering if they killed entire populations of Busan/Ulsan/Jinju etc?
Before 1609 the Ryukyu kingdom ignored several demands from the Shimazu feudal lords of Satsuma to submit as tributaries to Japan and ignored requests to send soldiers to help them in the Japanese invasions of Korea in the Imjin war (1592-1598) and instead sent only incomplete rations.
In 1609 the Shimazu feudal lords of the Satsuma domain in Kyushu, Japan launched a violent military invasion of the Ryukyu kingdom (an island chain between China and Japan) and after defeating Ryukyu forces the Japanese forced Ryukyu King ShΕ Nei to come to Japan that year from 1609-1611 to submit to the Shimazu lords of Satsuma and the Shogun and agree to be a vassal tributary of Japan, forcing him to agree to false statements that Ryukyu was always a vassals for tributary to Satsuma and that Ryukyu deserved the invasion. Ryukyu was forced to cede several islands to the Satsuma domain. ShΕ Nei was returned to Ryukyu in 1611 and forced to not reveal Japan's invasion and subjugation of Ryukyu to other countries like China under threat from the Satsuma domain.
This was the first reigning foreign monarch and head of state to visit Japan. Puyi's visit to Japan in 1940 as puppet "Kangde Emperor" of Manchukuo was not the first foreign monarch in Japan and Puyi had visited Japan in 1935 already. This misinformation was posted on this subreddit and I wanted to clear it up.
Instead of fighting another giant horned snek in the Golden Palace mission we could've fought some Korean monster they managed to capture and kept around for Tokichiro's amusement. Did they choose to gloss over the invasion cause it meant Japan lost even with access to magic spirit stones?
Let's say Toyotomi peninsular Japan (Chosen) and Tokugawa insular Japan (Nihon) existed beside each other from the 17th century up to today. Obviously they would develop a fierce rivalry. What would be the differences between the two "Japans", cultural, social e economic-wise? What would be the impact of two Japanese nations competing with each other during the European run for China in the 19th century, and WWI and WWII, for example?
Cant check, would appreciate
I remember being at the library when I was in about grade 5: maybe 6.. For whatever reason this book caught my eye, and I decided to read it. It really captivated me, and it's stuck with me ever since. But for the life of me I cannot remember the title of the book, and google has been less that forgiving since I don't really remember anything about the Author, or title. I can barely recall the cover of the book, aside from it being very plane (maybe a pale white, with minimal design) and flowers? Maybe... It's really fuzzy either way.
That's about all I can remember in terms of the books physical form... but the story followed a family in Korea, mainly the daughter/mother (from the daughters perspective). I'm not sure if this had anything to do with Comfort Women during WWII, butthere where parts of the book that talked about them making clothes for Japanese soldiers. (socks seem to stick out to me for whatever reason..)
I don't think the book was an autobiography of a real individual.. or maybe it was and it was of the authors interpretation based on their own family or just purely based on fact.
Either way I'd really love to find the book again and give it another read.
Thanks in advance if anyone has any information that can point me in the right direction!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%931598)
I know from reading that the Japanese forces were eventually defeated mostly due to supply lines being disrupted while fighting in Korea, but if they had actually conquered Korea, could Japan have actually conquered China at that time as well?
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