Idk what to think… For me, it’s not even the crimes that make me adore them, but their personality and uniqueness. Most of the sk’s are really charming, funny and social. I don’t condone the crimes but I also don‘t really care and I can‘t be mad at them because I like them so much. Funny thing is, I had never been interested in true crime and sk stuff until I saw that one documentary about Ted and I just fell in love with him and later with the others too lol. It‘s been almost a year since I‘m into that and I‘m glad about it because it fulfills me and I even wrote to one, but I wouldn’t say I have hybristophilia.
Straight guy here..
So. I definatly have it. Women who murder would scare me to meet (cause I don't want to die) but women who commit other less serious crimes really do it for me..
Thats it. I love suffering and I love you all.
Hybristophilia is a sexual interest and attraction to people who commit crimes. Many high-profile criminals, particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes, receive "fan mail" in prison that is sometimes amorous or sexual, presumably as a result of this phenomenon. In some cases, admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison.
Some speculations have been offered as to the cause of hybristophilia. Some of the women in particular who have married or dated male serial killers have offered the following reasons:
Low self-esteem and the lack of a father figure.
"Some believe they can change a man as cruel and powerful as a serial killer."
"Others 'see' the little boy that the killer once was and seek to nurture him."
"A few hoped to share in the media spotlight or get a book or movie deal."
"Then there's the notion of the 'perfect boyfriend'. She knows where he is at all times and she knows he's thinking about her. While she can claim that someone loves her, she does not have to endure the day-to-day issues involved in most relationships. There’s no laundry to do, no cooking for him, and no accountability to him. She can keep the fantasy charged up for a long time."
Others offered reasons along the lines of:
"Some mental health experts have compared infatuation with killers to extreme forms of fanaticism. They view such women as insecure females who cannot find love in normal ways or as 'love-avoidant' females who seek romantic relationships that cannot be consummated."
There you have it - the female muppet.
It is classified as a mental illness
So I am sure you are aware of people having sexual or romantic desire for serial killers and criminals in general. So I ask what do we know about what causes this behavior? Is it different for men in comparison to women?
"i have hybristophilia so bad that i have pictures of my favorites on my wall and i read fanfics of them. i do and don't like having this disorder. i worry about myself a lot"
Out of interest, does anybody know of any films or TV series that have a hybristophilia type of undertone?
Ideally, it would not be a documentary and have an interesting perpetrator/victim connection but I am open to any suggestions.
Thank you!
I've just watched this film and it seems to be one of the only ones that shows hybristophilia tendencies. I'd recommend watching it!
For those who are not "white" (whether culturally or racially) do you notice different treatment with hybristophiliac from others? Certainly, there are demographics that are statistically overrepresented in crime statistics, and different cultures have different standards for what is taboo. What are some of the minor nuances you notice with non-white criminals or those who commit social outrages?
For me, in my culture hybristophilia is almost non existent, because it commonly get conflated with just "liking bad boys/thugs" etc.
So, much like the majority of the people on this sub and others, I’ve been researching/reading/watching everything I can find about the case since the day that CW gave his ridiculous ‘Sermon on the Porch’.
I’ve been a member of almost every Facebook group (although have left many), watched the YouTube channels, listened to all sides and opinions. I’ve read both discoveries, listened to and watched all LE footage. I’m of the definite opinion that CW murdered SW, BW and CCW. I happen to be ex LE myself, but that has very little bearing on my view on the case. I base my views on the discoveries, CWs admissions of guilt (both on what he says and sometimes more importantly, what he doesn’t say), timelines and evidence, and finally Occam’s razor.
I am also of the opinion, that SW was an extremely devoted wife and mother. She strived for the absolute best for her family and loved them unconditionally. I believe she made some questionable decisions, especially when it came to being a part of the MLM lifestyle. As far as her parenting, I’m certainly not one to judge or criticise. There are many things she did that I too do, and many that I don’t. What I do think is that despite her faults and foibles, she had a good heart and intentions and did nothing out of badness or malice. She wore her heart on her sleeve, and never meant any harm.
Now to the main point of my dissertation (if you’ve got this far, then thank you haha). This case isn’t my first rodeo, far from it. The first case I ever truly got involved in was the Madeleine McCann case, and boy, down that rabbit hole I went. I was actually an active Reddit member back then, but eventually fell away from it, lost all my login details (for that and other sites), and only came back to Reddit a few months ago when I was looking for more input on the Watts case.
After that, I jumped from case to case, with varying amounts of vigour. Never, have I witnessed the amount and extent of apparent hybristophilia in any other case as I have in this one, coupled with downright obvious vitriol towards the victim(s). I’m well aware of many serial killers receiving fan mail, wedding proposals etc, however, I don’t think there’s ever been another family annihilator in history who has been so supported, adored, excused and his/her victim(s) so hated and spoken of so badly.
It would make sense almost, if the Lanas, KKs, and other various (almost always female) SW haters who excuse and defend CWs behaviour were only t
... keep reading on reddit ➡I have a fetish for bad bad boys. I remember being really young….. maybe 5 - having some sort of attraction to Axel Rose in “welcome to the jungle”….I always cheered for the bad guys ( jarerth from Labyrinth ex) it’s continued into adulthood. Until now, married to a nice guy. I know I’m not normal. I listen to true crime stories and find myself sexually intrigued by Israel Keyes. Wtf is wrong with me?!!! I looked it up and I guess it’s Hybristophilia.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6pzkc-HWqU&t=141s
I'm not trying to sound like an edgy or quirky person off of tumblr or whatever. When I was in early elementary school, lockdown drills/shooters on my campus have stayed heavily on my mind and probably crossed through my thoughts more than it did with other kids. My teachers told me that I asked an unusual amount of questions concerning lockdowns, and to not worry about it so much. I wasn't particularly afraid; the thought of someone coming in my school and shooting people was captivating. In history class, I was specifically interested in topics such as JFK's death, Bloody Mary's reign of terror, the Holocaust, and the French's use of the guillotine. (Of course, serial killers were never discussed. I found out about true crime on my own.)
I have been fascinated with serial killers for several years now, and only recently have I made it aware to myself that I found serial killers attractive. I believe a part of it has to do with their intellect, and the other part is the idea that despite killing so many other people, they wouldn't kill me because they love me. It was only after I saw the Internet saying that "glamorizing/romanticizing serial killers/psychopaths is disgusting" I came to realize what was wrong. I don't know how to phrase this because I never exactly told anyone, but I usually end up thinking about how I would want to be with a certain killer and how they would "control" or "hide" their psychopathic tendencies for me. I typically only "romanticize" being with slightly older serial killers (cough Ted Bundy); reason being that because of my insecurities, the "cat-calling" comments I've received in the past from older men made me feel better about myself. (Mind you, I am a minor.) I know its bad and all, but it's not like I can choose how to feel about it. Sure, I can tell myself that it's wrong and I shouldn't feel this way, but that can't change how I actually feel. But that's a completely different story.
I don't know if I'm overanalyzing this, but as I see more and more comments on how "romanticizing" serial killers isn't normal, I can't help but actually wonder if I need help for my mentality. I never looked into it because it was something that just went over my head. This has to be more common than I imagine; remember how women would go to the court trials because they just had to see the killers? Opinions are appreciated :)
hi. does anyone know of any examples of hybristophilia toward the perpetrator of the isla vista shooting? like posts or videos or communities or anything like that?
thanks in advance u beautiful freaks
I don’t know how to start this I just really need advice
Me and my gf have been dating for a few months now and everything started out great. We were liking spending time together and stuff. A few days after our one month she confessed to me that she was diagnosed with hybristophilia. hybristophilia if you don’t know basically means your attracted to serial killers and stuff like that. Initially I was fine with it she kept it rather private and to herself and it didn’t seem to get in our way. But that quickly changed. ever since quarantine started it seems to be getting worse. She seems to definitely be attracted to ted bundy and I don’t know what to do. We ft ever night and all she does is talk about him. She literally reads facts about him do the whole call to the point where she even memorized his ENTIRE Wikipedia article verbatim. It’s gotten so bad that she confused my birthday his birthday and accidentally called me ted a few times. She refuses to say electric chair and if I say it she corrects me and says “call it the e slur it’s offensive”. She calls him her husband and she knows I hate it . I’ve explained many times that I don’t want to hear talk about ted bundy because she more or less fantasizes about him in front of me. She says “Your just jealous of him he was a good guy “. She seems to think the was a great guy and was just misunderstood “he had a condition” and stuff like that . And I just outright say “he murdered women at least one was a minor and he did “stuff” with their corpses” she responds by saying I’m being mean and harsh towards HIM.
I don’t know what to do I don’t want to break up with her since I love her and I fear if I do it will make her condition worse. But I also don’t think it’s healthy for her to keep treating this murderer like a saint that did nothing wrong. She forgets about me half the time and her excuse normally is that she was busy thinking about ted. I just don’t know what to do and I just need advice
Edit: she was diagnosed by a therapist. I emailed that therapist asking if it was just a phase or not and the therapist said it could go either way
Question: what makes someone a hybristophiliac?
I have been looking at everything RICHARD RAMIREZ ever since the Netflix mini doc came out. The thing is that I’m only into true crime and stuff like that at a minimum. I love horror films and horror narrations, things like that. And I’m actually very active in the weirdcore and truamacore community.
I am a victim and now survivor of physical and sexual abuse from a very young age and so serial killers are only a curiosity for me just like an regular person. So what makes someone a Hybristo?
I find Ramirez very attractive, pretty much has the bad boy charm, but I’ve never cared for the bad boy thing really. Like not in real life. It’s one thing to see it in movies or shows because they aren’t real.
I hate every single other serial killer ever. But why am I so captivated by this man? I am Hispanic as he was by the way. I was born in 1990 so he was in prison throughout my whole life up until 2013.
So, is it because I went through a lot of trauma and a lot of intense abuse throughout my childhood and adolescence? Is it because this could have been me if I was to decide to kill my abusers and my mother and also go and lure other pedos to kill ( ie: as a young teen I use to want to learn how to kill with weapons effectively so that I can kill pedophiles and abusers at that time) I could have been a killer too if I had let my pain and rage get to me? Is that why I am so lured my him and wanting to know what was going on in his head and what mental disorders he developed because of everything he went through?
I find Ramirez very attractive and that’s probably the first thing that made me want to know about him. I only knew vaguely about him before. I sometimes fantasize going back in time and being a friend or even another child who could get him away from all the pain and run away together so he could be a happy boy or at least get help. This also for him and so at the time there wouldn’t be victims men, women and children. Maybe that’s what I wanted for others to do for me as a child???
I can see that others care for other serial killers as child and I agree, but I feel it would be only to stop the pain for them and their victims.
For me Ramirez is a little bit more complex because I also fantasize that I would have been ok to have been the first person who crossed him and be able To put a fat bullet in his brain the second he get into my room. Ending his suffering and stopping any future killing and r
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