Hermann GΓΆring, Bruno Loerzer and Josef Kammhuber are inspecting NJG1 pilots. Next to Kammhuber is Hans-Joachim Jabs. On the right side: Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer and Martin Drewes. Behind them Bordfunker Friedrich Rumpelhardt.
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Major Hans-Joachim Jabs (NJG1) and his 2 other crew talk to the captured RAF pilot, John Caulton, shown with a bandaged head caused by striking the gun sight on crash landing. 29th April 1944. reddit.com/gallery/rrfw8i
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Hans-Joachim Jabs and two men from his crew speak with British POW John Jeremy Caulton whom they had recently shot down near Deelen in the Netherlands. April 29, 1944. Story in comments.
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[BVBBuzz] Hans-Joachim Watzke on Erling Haaland's comments: "He is a spontaneous person, a young lad. He's allowed to do that. There is no problem with Erling. But he must also have some understanding for our situation. We can't wait until the end of May." twitter.com/BVBBuzz/statu…
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[Derek Rae] The Bundesliga may trail the Premier League in the super rich stakes, but a reminder that what’s happening in Newcastle is not allowed to happen at a German club. Worth bearing in mind. As BVB CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke said recently, German football will continue down its own path. twitter.com/raecomm/statu…
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[Stefan Bienkowski] Borussia Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke has told Sport1 that one of the big reasons Jadon Sancho wanted to move to Man Utd was because of a "lack of acceptance in the English national team" of his achievements in the Bundesliga. twitter.com/SBienkowski/s…
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Hans-Joachim Watzke on Felix Zwayer: "It would certainly be best for all sides if the DFB decided not to let him manage any more BVB matches for the time being." twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/s…
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1/48 Eduard Bf-109 F-4 flown by Hans-Joachim Marseille reddit.com/gallery/r8c8o5
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Hans-Joachim Watzke becomes new head of the supervisory board of the DFL. sport.sky.de/fussball/art…
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[Stefan Bienkowski] Borrusia Dortmund CEO Hans- Joachim Watzke has told Sport 1 that one of the big reasons Jadon Sancho moved to Man Utd was because of a "lack of acceptance in the English national team" of his achievements in the Bundesliga. twitter.com/SBienkowski/s…
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Gun camera footage possibly from Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 as a Curtiss Tomahawk of the Desert Air Force is gunned down at point blank range in late 1941
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Gun camera footage possibly from Hans-Joachim Marseille's Bf 109 as a Curtiss Tomahawk of the Desert Air Force is gunned down at point blank range in late 1941
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[Romano] Hans Joachim Wirtz - father of Florian - on his son’s future to @sportbild : β€œFlorian definitely wants to play a good role in Leverkusen for the next two years. We don’t know yet what comes next. His focus is now only on Bayer”. πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Bayer are not intentioned to sell Wirtz in 2022. twitter.com/FabrizioRoman…
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In view of the increasing radicalization of violent demonstrators in Saxony, extremism researcher Hans-Joachim Funke (FU Berlin) has accused politicians and authorities of negligence.
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Hans-Joachim Watzke Says Jadon Sancho Is Under-Appreciated in England lastwordonsports.com/foot…
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Hans-Joachim Marseille with a Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIB of 274 Squadron RAF that he brought down in February 1942 in North Africa
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[Official] Borussia Dortmund CEO Hans Joachim Watzke confirms that both BVB and Bayern reject the Super League plans and are sticking with the planned Champions League reform bvb.de/ger_amp/News/Ueber…
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Der Stern von Afrika - Hans-Joachim Marseille imgur.com/LrmL5bL
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Hans-Joachim Marseille with a Hawker Hurricane Mk. IIB of 274 Squadron RAF that he brought down in February 1942 in North Africa
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13 Dec 1919: Hans-Joachim Marseille, future aviator, was born ww2db.com/person_bio.php?…
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CEO of Borussia Dortmund Hans-Joachim Watzke said that they are planing a beneficial Match to collect money to help with the flash floods in the state NRW and Rheinland-Pfalz (Germany) sportbuzzer.de/artikel/na…
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Leserbrief von Hans-Olaf Henkel & Joachim Starbatty in der FAZ von heute
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Hans-Joachim Watzke confirms that Bayern is sticking to Champions League twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/st…
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[DAZN via Sky Sports DE] Hans-Joachim Watzke on Erling Haaland's future: "We don't have a parallel plan. We will talk to Erling, his father and his agent Mino Raiola. After all, we want him to be happy to stay with us and score goals for BVB next year with conviction. There is no alternative plan." sport.sky.de/fussball/art…
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Hanjo ist Hans Joachims Spitzname
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People's thoughts of Hans-Joachim Marseille

What do people think of Hans-Joachim Marseille ? In case people don't know who he is. Hans-Joachim Marseille was a German fighter ace who has claimed 158 Allied aircraft (most of them against British aircraft in Africa, making him the top scoring ace against the RAF). He was killed in 1942 at the age of 22.

However, I'm not here to discuss whether his kills are exaggerated or not, but rather he is often described as "openly anti-Nazi" and biographers write how he had disdain for Nazism and authoritarianism (despite the fact that he willingly chose to join the Luftwaffe). There some supposed details of him showing his anti-Nazi side.

  • There is one incident where Marseille was asked if he would join the Nazi Party to which he replied "If there are a lot of attractive women in it then I might consider joining!" The remark was reportedly passed on Hitler who was "upset" by his Marseille's remark.
  • There is also a story of him playing Jazz in front of Hitler, Goering, Borman, Goebbels and Himmler while they were visiting the home of Willy Messerschmitt, Hitler stormed out of the room in disgust.
  • There are also reports that he was concerned about the Jews after overhearing murders of the Jews after Heydrich's assassination in a party and was constantly asking about them with his Comrades who often changed the topic, ignored him or were stunned by him. After his superiors began to feel suspicious of him, Marseille never brought up the subject again.

However, I'm not 100% sure whether these are true and I'm being very cautious, could the biographers be trying to keep his reputation as squeaky clean as possible? Or was he genuinely anti-Nazi? It's very difficult to determine Hans-Joachim Marseille's true beliefs partly because he was killed at such a young age and very early in his career. But I think it's not a bad idea to assume that he was probably more sceptical of the Nazis than a lot of his more noted Luftwaffe counterparts were.

Which comes to my other point. Wehraboos have largely ignored Hans-Joachim Marseille but constantly wet themselves over Erich Hartmann or dare I say, Hans-Ulrich Rudel - who was a dedicated and full blown Nazi and just as fanatical as Hitler was. Rudel remained a Nazi throughout his life, constantly supporting Neo-Nazi organizations and parties and supported war criminals in escaping justice. He made no attempt to atone for his past, he boasted about it and he remained a rabid Nazi right to the very end. Meanwhile Erich Ha

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[Fabrizio Romano] Borussia Dortmund CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke to Sport1: "I've known Raiola for a long time and get along well with him. It's no problem for us. Erling Haaland will remain a Borussia Dortmund player next year”. twitter.com/FabrizioRoman…
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20 Sep 1942: [Photo] Portrait of Hans-Joachim Marseille ww2db.com/image.php?image…
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16 Sep 1942: [Photo] Erwin Rommel and Hans-Joachim Marseille, Libya ww2db.com/image.php?image…
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Hans-Joachim Marseille, fellow pilots, and ground crew fooling around in North Afrika
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Hans-Joachim Stuck to make racing comeback aged 70 motorsport.com/gt/news/tw…
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16 Aug 1942: Benito Mussolini presented Hans-Joachim Marseille the Gold Medal of Military Valor. ww2db.com/person_bio.php?…
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German ace Hans-Joachim Marseille standing next to a Hawker Hurricane Mk.IIB he shot down in North Africa, March 31, 1942.
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Hans Joachim Watzke: "I want to take a stand for Lucien Favre. He came in 2018 after a great upheaval and has won the vice championship twice. Both times we played very well in the league. To judge the coach only by whether he has won a championship is too narrow-minded." [WAZ] waz.de/sport/fussball/bvb…
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Oberleutnant Hans Joachim Buddecke, General Otto Liman von Sanders, Hauptmann Oswald Boelcke in Turkey, 1916
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The body of Luftwaffe pilot Hans Joachim Marseille the β€œStar of Africa”, 158 victories, killed September 30, 1942 when the oil line of his ME 109 broke and he crash landed, Sidi-Abd-EL-Rahman, Egypt.
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Joachim B. Olsen om Khader: - Han er en belastning for de konservative ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/p…
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Met Opera Nightly Opera Stream: MONCA Alumni Week #3 – Wagner’s Tristan und Isolde with Jane Eaglen, Katarina Dalayman, Ben Heppner, Hans-Joachim Ketelsen, RenΓ© Pape, Hans-Joachim Ketelsen, Brian Davis, Anthony Dean Griffey, Mark Schowalter, James Courtney; conducted by JL metoperafree.brightcove-s…
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Fighter ace Hans-Joachim Marseille, 158 victories, poses next to a plane he shot down over Egypt in February 1942. He would be killed September 30, 1942 after his plane suffered an engine failure while bailing out his chest struck the aircrafts vertical stabilizer.
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28 Jun 1942: [Photo] Adolf Hitler and Hans-Joachim Marseille at Wolfsschanze ww2db.com/image.php?image…
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UEFA president Aleksander Čeferin on the loyalty shown by Hans-Joachim Watzke, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge and Nasser Ghanim Al-Khelaifi during what he calls a war against football v.redd.it/12n6j133vsu61
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German ace pilot Hans Joachim Marseil poses near the English Hurricane fighter, which he had wrestled in aerial combat. In the β€œBattle of England” Hans Joachim Marseil shot down 7 aircraft. By the day of his death on September 30, 1942, he had 158 air victories, 151 in North Africa
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Hans-Joachim Stuck about Monaco: A lot of time for shenanigans speedweek.com/formel1/new…
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1 Jul 1939: Hans-Joachim Marseille was promoted to the rank of Fahnenjunker-Unteroffizier. ww2db.com/person_bio.php?…
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