This was an introductory episode to what will be a weekly or bi-weekly show in which i will provide a contemporary analysis of the civil war and of the facts on the ground as they unfold.
If you want to give it a listen and tell me if you like i will greatly appreciate it. Sorry for my broken pronunciation :/
Multiple folks bring attention to the atrocities committed in the Libyan civil war.
> Not sure “hero” is the right word for someone serving in a militia under an internationally wanted war criminal. Still sorry for your loss OP, not like you have anything to do with that. Source
> Can I ask what makes him a hero, the airforce he worked for targeted civilians and the military he was a part of commited documented war crimes. You can look them up on Youtube this is all public knowldge. Source
> Yeah, he was a great guy being a part of an organization that massacred thousands of civilians. [Source] (https://np.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/nodje9/my_uncle_sacrificed_himself/gzzynzk/)
> I said it earlier and I will keep saying it to those not versed on the conflict in Libya. Soldiers follow orders and good people can do bad things. > > His uncle served in the airforce of a war criminal who indicrimintly bombed civilans so that he could overthrow the democratic civilian governmemt in favor of a military dictator... Source
turns out OP's great aunt was a revolutionary under Gadaffi who executed students. I guess war crimes run in the family Source
OP think whoever his hero uncle was bombing were terrorists. A nice black and white view in a gray world > He only bombed terrorist bases. Source
> My uncle only joined the army after the 17. Feb revolution. If you or your family are terrorists or extremists then my uncle probably bombed you. If not then he didn't. Source
OP themselves isnt the most savory character with some nice transphobia and homophobia brewing > I believe that it's generally a mental problem being normalised because people are too lazy to fix their problems. Most gay people I know or heard of are kinda abnormal or have some mental health issues. It also defies both religion and science.
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From reading online, I usually see two viewpoints on Gaddafi but they aren't really mutually exclusive. They are
- Gaddafi was a cruel dictator who committed many human right atrocities and made his people live in fear. The west intervened as a result of his using rape as a weapon of war and many other human right violations. E.g, main reason for intervention was protecting civilians
- Gaddafi was massively loved, and his policies greatly increased quality of life in Libya. The west intervened because they wanted a greater share of Libyan oil production, increase French influence in North Africa, and keep the CFA franc to continue monetary imperialism.
- Additional tangent is conspiracies here about Rothschild Central Banks that I won't get into.
I'm just wondering if my thoughts on Gaddafi/U.S intervention are accurate.
- He led a country with the 9th largest oil reserves, and used that wealth to create great social welfare policies and greatly increase quality of life in Libya
- However, he hoarded a lot of that money for himself. He didn't invest much in infrastructure and the policies he implemented were the bare minimum an oil rich country should have had. He died with 200b in the bank and spent money very luxuriously despite claiming to be a socialist.
- He was widely supported (video of large number of people coming out to support him on July 1st, Green Square Tripoli).
- Despite the support, he was still a cruel dictator. He committed many human right atrocities, pointless wars, and generally kept his people living in fear.
- The west didn't intervene as a result of Gaddafi's human right violations. They intervened for personal benefit in the reasons stated above; greater share of Libyan oil and maintaining French influence. It just makes more sense to me as a more realistic reason for intervention, and why they left the country in such a state. Also, Clinton's wikileak emails seems to kind of support this notion as well. And the fact that they didn't really seem to have an issue with Gaddafi's atrocities for the longest time until their interests were endangered.
- On the other hand, Gaddafi had a history of genocide and was threatening to level Benghazi. So when he started marching troops out, maybe that was enough justification for the west to move out to actually protect civilians due to the sheer scale of atrocities that would have been committed. Maybe I'm just jaded. It could be both, though (preventing genocide while also getting mater
I found that:
> Estimates of deaths in the Libyan Civil War vary, with figures from 2,500 to 25,000 given between 02 March 2011 and 01 October 2011. As of April 2016 a total of about 4,750 had been killed. [libyabodycount].
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/libya-civil-war-2.htm
Why was the first civil war so deadly?
Edit: sorry, the estimates given are for the second civil war from the time range of 2014-2016, but still they’re much less than what happened in the first uprising
We just finished our hour-long deep-dive show into the next phase of the Libyan Civil War, Russia and Turkeys involvement and what the outcome will be if the battle of Sirte kicks off.
So much has changed in the last few months of the conflict, and whoever comes out on top here will be a major power broker in North Africa/Southern Europe theatre.
For this episode we have
JALEL HARCHAUOI >>(Clingendael Institute)
FREDERIC WEHREY >> (Carnegie Centre)
JONATHON WINER >> Winer (Fmr Asst Secretary of State for the USA)
Libya has become a crowded battlefield with Russia, Turkey, Syria, Sudan, Egypt, France, Italy, Qatar, the UAE and Saudi Arabia all now involved and invested. 6 months ago it looked like Haftar had victory within his grasp, but now he is in full retreat and held up in the fortress city of Sirte. The trouble now is that if the battle of Sirte goes ahead Egypt claims it will invade, Russia will activate its MiG-29's, and Turkey will double down, the will be a lot of casualties if the war enters this next phase.
We posed this scenario to our experts who go through how likely the battle is to happen, and what the outcomes will be for the entire Mediterranean region.
I would also love to get your opinions on where you think the war is headed.
This sub was absolutely great for research, so thank you to all of the people here.
I would love your input and feedback as well.
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Myself and my team just finished a hour-long deep-dive show on the Libyan civil war with 3 of the biggest experts on the subject, going into Libya's history, its current frontlines, what each of the combatants is hoping to achieve, and the likelihood of it spreading into Europe and the Sahel.
For this episode we have
JONATHON WINER - Former Deputy Assistant US Secretary of State and Special Envoy to Libya
JALEL HARCHAOUI - The Clingendael Institute
and TAREK MEGERISI - European Council on Foreign Relations
We go over how the struggle started, where its heading and what is at stake for both sides and just how wide-ranging the impacts of the war will be. We also go right into why Russia, Turkey, Italy, France, Qatar, Egypt, Tunisia and the UAE are pouring weapons and arms into this already destructive war.
Its designed to be a crash course on everything you need to know to try and understand the country in its current state, what the Gulf states, Turkey and Russia are up to, and why the US is staying out of it for now.
We also decided to leave it some of the more controversial points this time, including the outcomes of the US taking drastic measures into the war.
The show is really starting to pick up and this sub was a huge help in gathering guests and info so I thought I would share it here to say thanks.
Would love your input and feedback as well.
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I was reading this article about US political divide and polarization, and that idea came to my mind.
Divide stability promises more political instability and volatility in the years ahead.
The Blue-Red divide has been going for almost 20 years now, and armed terrorist radicalization seems to be increasing in far-right groups (QAnon, Proud Boys, so on) and far-left groups as well (Radical-Antifa, etc.).
Another point is the 10,000% increase in rifle ownership in the US during the last 5 years, with more than 80% of those new guns being bought and owned by People of Color, that are felling threatened and are arming themselves as the last resort to defend their life and property.
One last point is the increase in apocalyptic millennarist radical far-right evangelical non-denominational Christian churches' membership. Those groups preach the need of an armed confrontation and genocide of any opposing groups in order to "bring the end of days" and "the rapture".
Unless a national union salvation government happens to be elected (far-fetched possibility), do you see the US social tissue fracturing hard and the US drowning in a Libyan-like Civil War scenario in the next decade or so, a civil war that will be the bloodiest and costliest in Human History? If yes, please list your reasons. Likewise if you don't, please list your reasons to not think that way.
Thanks in advance.
